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Scott-OZ
| | Posted on Monday, January 27, 2003 - 06:04 pm: | 
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G'day all. I have a mate that is keen on buying an 03. He has read write ups and thinks the A5000k ACE is the way to go. Personally I think my 02 v8 manual handles bloody nicely without ACE, but motoring writers here seem to rave over it. Has anyone got any thoughts on it without taking into account price and potential problems down the track.
Cheers
Scott-OZ |
Michael Noe (Noee)
| | Posted on Monday, January 27, 2003 - 07:09 pm: |
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Lots-o-info in the archives...try a search, see what pops up. |
John Moore (Jmoore)
| | Posted on Monday, January 27, 2003 - 07:14 pm: |
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I have ACE on my 99 NAS D2. Handles great, though I haven't driven one without ACE. Can't really compare with my old 88 Range Rover, that thing would really lean... I have heard of problems with the system, pumps or pipes going bad, etc. You can take the pessimistic attitude and say, "It's just another system that may fail" or the optimistic approach and say the Camel trucks were equiped with ACE too.
-John |
OLIVER CLOTHSOFF (Everythingleaks)
| | Posted on Monday, January 27, 2003 - 08:29 pm: |
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Just carry a non-ACE belt in the back. It will fit and bypass the ACE pump in a system failure.
I don't know how well ACE works on lifted trucks but in the stock form it works great on and off-road. |
Bob Foster (Coppertop)
| | Posted on Monday, January 27, 2003 - 09:20 pm: |
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Mine is lifted 3" and works great. Obviously Im not as daring in the corners, but it still handles far and away better than one without. |
Leslie N. Bright (Leslie)
| | Posted on Monday, January 27, 2003 - 10:23 pm: |
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Uh, couple of things...
First off, Rover's involvement in the Camel Trophy ended before ACE came around, so no, Camel trucks didn't have ACE.
Second: I've not driven an '03 to compare, but supposedly the '03 without ACE is better at cornering than the earlier 'D2 Rovers that don't have ACE. The ACE system made more of an improvement on the earlier D2, with the '03 not needing it as much... and, supposedly either are better than either of my D1 Discos have been....
FWIW, I'd put the money elsewhere than into ACE....
IMHO, YMMV....
-L |
Jay Hobbs (Jayxd)
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 28, 2003 - 12:14 pm: |
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The Trek Discos have ACE. It is on my wife's D2. I like it, handles much, much better than my D1. It's what was on the Disco she wanted so that is why we have it, we were looking for a used one with out it but you go with what you find. From what my friend at the dealer said they don't push ACE on people, they order a limited number of Discos equipped with it, and said the people who seem to notice the biggest differences are ones coming from a sport sedan setup like a BWM, Merc, etc. Those who have been driving an SUV or truck can't tell between non ACE Discos. |
John N (John_Tdi_Aus)
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 28, 2003 - 06:44 pm: |
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Hey scott
Dont forget magazines dont pay for cars so it doesn't worry them. Appearently in OZ only 11% of new cars go out the door with ACE. So lots of people cant see/feel the value or are worried about being beyond Birdsville and it not doing its thing.
John |
Rich Lee
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 28, 2003 - 09:21 pm: |
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I have a 95 D1 that was formerly stock-sprung and fitted with 255/65-16 Michelin XPCs and Bilsteins. This is about the best you can get a stock D1 to handle and it handled pretty well.
Our stock 91 RRC (which is about 200 lbs lighter than the Disco & lower CG) has Bilsteins and 235/70-16 XPCs and handles better than the above-mentioned Disco.
Our bone-stock non-ACE 2000 D2 SE-7 with new 255/70-16 Yoko AT+IIs handles WAY better than either of the above. The turn-in is much quicker (even accounting for steering wear), the cornering is much flatter and much less affected by pavement undulations. They have really improved all aspects of the suspension. This truck also has SLS, which really improves the loaded handling, and I would guess also improves the unlaiden cornering over the stock coil springs. It is also way better loaded down than either the Rangie with the Boge self-leveling unit, or my D1 with OME MD rear coils and Air-lift inserts
Having driven the older coil-sprung Rovers, I feel that the improvements on our 2000 D2 are so much better that I have no need for ACE. The truck sticks very well on twisty roads and I am used to cocking my head to compensate for the leaning of Rovers. I probably exceed the 0.4g "bleed-off" limit of the ACE system in most corners anyway and would ultimately find myself leaning just as much.
I think ACE is fine, and it would give comfort and confidence to those not used to the Rover lean. I also think it is cool the way it decouples the swaybars off road. I can't find the article now, but FourWheeler did a comparison test in 1999, where the ACE disco out-cornered the Mercedes M-class on the skidpad, yet had a stock RTI of 714, with 18" wheels and 55 series tires. This was the most articulation they ever measured in a stock 4x4.
I find the basic vehicle is so good that I have no real need for ACE, but would not turn down a good used D2 that had it. |
Carter Simcoe
| | Posted on Thursday, January 30, 2003 - 07:24 pm: |
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Don't get ACE! It only causes problems with lifting the rover and it doesn't help with off roading! Personally I wouldn't install anything that isn't for off-roading I think that if you do you are an idiot. In fact I thnk that the new warantee for the discovery is void if you drive it more than 1000 miles or over 35 mph on a paved road. |
Carter Simcoe (Carter)
| | Posted on Thursday, January 30, 2003 - 07:30 pm: |
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come on, if your gonna use my name at least spell "waranty" right while using it. You know what a stickler I am for proper english  |
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