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R. B. Bailey (Rover50987)
Posted on Tuesday, January 28, 2003 - 01:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

OK, I've asked about this before. But I did take all your advice and it still doesn't work. For the life of me I CANNOT get my lugs off my Disco. I even took it down to Ship's and to make sure some idiot didn't just wrench them on there too tight. Doug took them off (with an impact wrench of course.) Then used a tourque wrench to get them all to right at 85lbs - if I am remembering right. Anyway, I went and bought a 1 and 1/16 socket, and a 1 and 1/8 socket - neither of them will take the things off! One slips and rounds the pretty little crome covers, the other doesn't even go on!

Someone confirm for me please - if I just rip those pretty little chrome covers off, is there a perfectly good lug under there? I will have it done in a heartbeat before I have to get towed by some idiot driving a Ford just because I had a flat tire!

http://landrover.mrbaileyshistory.net
 

Kennith P. Whichard III (Kennith)
Posted on Tuesday, January 28, 2003 - 06:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

If it's a Disco II, buy a 27mm 1/2" drive socket. It will fit perfectly.

Cheers,

Kennith
 

Tom Rowe
Posted on Tuesday, January 28, 2003 - 06:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Drive to Sears. Use the factory supplied wheel brace to remove a wheel nut. Take the nut in and buy a socket that fits.

On the Disco I, the torque, according to the manual, is about 104ft/lbs
Cheers
 

Craig J Davis (Craigjdavis)
Posted on Tuesday, January 28, 2003 - 10:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Make sure you buy 6 point sockets not 12 point.
 

R. B. Bailey (Rover50987)
Posted on Tuesday, January 28, 2003 - 10:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

The problem I am having is that the nuts are tappered. Smaller at the end than they are at the base, so the 1 and 1/16 goes on, but not all the way - so you can't get all the tourque. And the people who owned the car before me dented up all the nuts, they are all stripped to some degree.

Can I take those covers off?
 

muskyman
Posted on Tuesday, January 28, 2003 - 10:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

RB

go to a truck stop and buy a big cross style lug wrench

one of the four is a slightly tapered 6 sided socket that works perfect on my D1

thom
 

Ron
Posted on Tuesday, January 28, 2003 - 01:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

If you take the caps off they look like crap as they have a hole in the center. Buy early RR classic lugs which are steel without the caps, wire brush them clean and they look good.

Ron
 

danielcovaciu
Posted on Tuesday, January 28, 2003 - 02:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I struggled with this same issue this Friday. I had a cross style wrench and it didnt help. I tried a 27mm 12 point socket. That got two lugs off one wheel and stripped the other three. They were so badly stripped that the guy at the tire place had to HAMMER a socket on there and use an extra powerful impact wrench to get them off. Three new lugs cost $45 at Land Rover of Portland. What finally worked was a 28mm 6 point socket. A 27mm still would not fit some of the more banged up lugs. A 28mm is kind of lose but works like a charm. So after spending a whole friday on it I now have in the truck a 1/2 inch flex wratchet, a 28mm 6 point socket and a 3 foot length of iron pipe to slide over the wratchet to get more torque. Works perfect!

So in conclusion I spent all of Friday, and about $65 to get 5 lug nuts off. Mr. Bailey, I feel your pain. If you need help I'm in SE Portland. Drive down and I will get your lugs off unless they are so stripped that you need new ones $$$.

Dan
 

Peter Matusov (Pmatusov)
Posted on Tuesday, January 28, 2003 - 02:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I second Ron's suggestion.

27 mm socket works on my disco's lug nuts, but I do have to pound it in on some of them that are more mangled than the others. No prolbems at all with range rover nuts.

peter
 

Peter Matusov (Pmatusov)
Posted on Tuesday, January 28, 2003 - 02:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

oh, btw, and i have about 20 disco lug nuts that i can part with :)

peter
 

OLIVER CLOTHSOFF (Everythingleaks)
Posted on Tuesday, January 28, 2003 - 08:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

The actuall size is a 27mm when leaving the factory. If a different size or a 12 point socket is used at some point the 27mm will not fit correctly. Tire stores screw these up all the time attempting to use standard sockets and/or 12 point sockets.
 

R. B. Bailey (Rover50987)
Posted on Wednesday, January 29, 2003 - 01:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Dan, what color Disco do you drive?

http://landrover.mrbaileyshistory.net
 

Tom Rowe
Posted on Wednesday, January 29, 2003 - 10:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Peter, where are you and how much?
trowe@attblobal_dot.net
remove the antispam chaff if you e-mail me :-)
 

danielcovaciu
Posted on Wednesday, January 29, 2003 - 01:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Mr. Bailey,
Mine is the Black 98 with 247/75/16 Dunlop Radial Rover R/T and brush bar with Hella's.
Did you get those lug nuts off yet?
Dan
 

Brian
Posted on Thursday, January 30, 2003 - 11:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Here is the "skinny" on Disco lug nuts. Because of the chrome covering, they build up rust in between the chrome and the actual lug nut. I had this problem once and took a 27MM 6-point impact socket (black) and hammered it on all the lugs and then pulled it off with a pair of vise grips. This tended to "compress" the rust and reshaped the lugnuts where they had been stripped by tire techs using a 12-point socket. It also allowed me to use a 1 1/4" 6-point socket (that is what size the Disco lug wrench is). It is still tight, so a 28MM would probably work better, only I do not have one. Someone check my math (I think a 28MM is slightly larger than a 1 1/4"). But, the moral to the story is that Disco lug nuts lose their shape and size due to rust buildup inside.

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