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Peter Matusov (Pmatusov)
Posted on Wednesday, January 29, 2003 - 11:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

check this if you can read russian



coming with a Cummins 5.9 diesel...

peter
 

muskyman
Posted on Wednesday, January 29, 2003 - 11:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

i like how its snorkled into the cab

i cant read russian but can see there pictures:)
 

Peter Matusov (Pmatusov)
Posted on Wednesday, January 29, 2003 - 12:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

i kinda liked that thing. better than H2, and more purposeful.

peter
 

Blue (Bluegill)
Posted on Wednesday, January 29, 2003 - 12:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Looks cool. Nice approach. Is the intake really snorkeled into the cab? That would be cool - take advantage of the passenger's filtered air. Good reason for "no smoking" in the cab...

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Carter Simcoe (Carter)
Posted on Wednesday, January 29, 2003 - 12:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Looks good, perhapse a little to "Jeep Liberty" in the front, but overall I like it.
 

Leslie N. Bright (Leslie)
Posted on Wednesday, January 29, 2003 - 12:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Tigris, eh? Cummins turbodiesel, self-inflating tires, tops out at ~87mph....

Dang, a 60 degree incline? Wha? Holy kraut! Is that meaning approach angle, or is that saying that it can climb up a 60 degree bank??

I like the way he's an actual "tire-kicker", lol....


-L
 

Pugsly (Pugsly)
Posted on Wednesday, January 29, 2003 - 01:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

You can get a translation through babelfish.altavista.com:

Rolling on the tigers
Presenting its new development the automobile of the dual purpose "Tigris", "GAS" politely invited journalists on "test- drive".Basic impressions:

automobile "Tigris" sushestvuyet in two versions (there are also armored versions of both models):

Engine
turbodizel' with cooling of super-charging air Of chummins B -180 (USA) with the mechanical gearbox.Engine is started it well and idles to the surprise quietly...
Sound is pleasant.It consumes on 100 km.20 l. of diesel fuel/propellant.

Suspension
Independent torsion bar suspension of all wheels, the hydraulic amplifier of control, avtomatichekskoye pressure adjustment in the busbars/tires.

On the route/course
Enormous wheels take to themselves all unevennesses they are expensive.Mshina can move along the special test route/course (consisting in essence of the cobblestones) at a rate of 120-140 km/h.
In this case no shaking in the salon it is perceived!!!
It goes sufficiently noisily along the highway, but it is rapid (it is actually rapid).Visualize armored car at the speed of 140 km/h.

Impassable road
the "Tigris" can clamber to the barriers/obstacles with the incline the hearth of 60 degrees (accurately they did not measure, but to enter it was terrible).The "gas" has specially postorennaya test tarssa..on it we drove. necessary to say impressions - strong.
Machine can start immediately from intermediate speed, to the hills it clambers also on the second.
During the motion along the sand - sharp rotation and gas - machine it will not bring in (apparently because of the complete drive)

Resumes
The Tigris successfully combines in itself "speed" and "passability/trafficability".
Orientation to the speed of motion and the passability/trafficability "in the sands" (adjustable pressure in the busbars/tires) they give idea about that, for what clients (and what countries) is calculated GAS, producing this automobile.
Although it is declared, that the automobile of the "dual purpose", looking at it - it is obvious that automobile - serviceman.
It can be and will be located tsenniteli, which will want to acquire this automobile for their garage (indeed they buy, for example, American Khammery.in Nijniy Novgorod there are several similar), but nevertheless basic user of such machines - this servicemen.
 

Peter Matusov (Pmatusov)
Posted on Wednesday, January 29, 2003 - 01:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Leslie, i think it's a BS about 60-degree angle.
the rubber-on-concrete friction coefficient is about 0.6, which limits the slope at 60%.
tires normally have larger friction coeff. than raw rubber, even more on asphalt, but not much more than 1. And one would need that to be about 1.85 to climb a 60-degree bank.

peter
 

Peter Matusov (Pmatusov)
Posted on Wednesday, January 29, 2003 - 01:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

LOL, what a translation!
 

Leslie N. Bright (Leslie)
Posted on Wednesday, January 29, 2003 - 01:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Okay, I can buy that.....

Still, I think I'd like it a bit more than a Hummer, just cause it's different....


-L
 

Peter Matusov (Pmatusov)
Posted on Wednesday, January 29, 2003 - 01:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

at least something good may be coming from my hometown :)

peter
 

Glenn Guinto (Glenn)
Posted on Wednesday, January 29, 2003 - 08:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post


Quote:

the rubber-on-concrete friction coefficient is about 0.6, which limits the slope at 60%.
tires normally have larger friction coeff. than raw rubber, even more on asphalt, but not much more than 1. And one would need that to be about 1.85 to climb a 60-degree bank.

peter




can you translate that in english Peter?

Glenn
 

Peter Matusov (Pmatusov)
Posted on Wednesday, January 29, 2003 - 09:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

lol

no

i've been translating too much stuff to plain english today for myself :)

peter
 

adtoolco
Posted on Friday, January 31, 2003 - 01:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I like it allot. Did the write up say how many rubels???

-Chris
 

adtoolco
Posted on Friday, January 31, 2003 - 01:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

On another note, its good to see the free market working in Russia. With the future oil sales and the vast untapped resorces looks like a bright future. I also heard that russia has implemented a flat tax. Does anyone know if this news is correct? If it is their future is really going to shine.

-Chris
 

adtoolco
Posted on Friday, January 31, 2003 - 01:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I did a google search and found this. Should I set up shop in Russia?

-Chris


From DALLAS MORNING NEWS

This year Americans will pay accountants and attorneys $140
billion to do their taxes and help them navigate the 46,000-page
U.S. Tax Code. Too bad, observers say, this isn't Russia.


Since January 1, 2001, Russians have enjoyed a 13 percent flat tax.


Even the old Russian system was simpler than ours, with three tax rates - 12, 20 and 30 percent.


The U.S. has six -- 6, 10, 15, 27, 30, 35 and 38.6 percent, the last of which takes hold at $307,500 for married couples filing jointly.

The majority of Russian taxpayers don't need to file forms. The 13 percent rate has exceeded expectations in terms of revenue, as real ruble revenue increased 28 percent


Three years ago, tax revenue equaled 9 to 10 percent of Russian gross domestic product.


By last November that had grown to 16 percent as result following the Laffer Curve: lower marginal tax rates produce higher revenues.

The new system has also greatly reduced the underground economy, where people were paid in goods rather than cash to facilitate tax evasion.

In other pro-market moves, President Vladimir Putin has signed legislation to cut the corporate tax rate from 35 to 24 percent. The Kremlin may also offer Russians privately invested social ecurity accounts, much as President Bush wants for Americans.

As one observer has noted, V.I. Lenin, analyzing all this from his dacha in hell, must be stroking his beard in utter bewilderment.

Source: Deroy Murdock, "Even Russia Realized the Wisdom of a Flat
Tax," Dallas Morning News, March 4, 2002.
 

Peter Matusov (Pmatusov)
Posted on Friday, January 31, 2003 - 02:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

good ole Soviet Union had flat tax of 13%. in 1991, Russia as a state sort of won over Russia as a republic within a union, partly because it dropped the tax rate to 12%. Then, it became thoroughly democratic, and more elaborate tax scheme was put in place, creating the most widespread tax evasion in the world.

V.I.Lenin was a maniac. In his career, all he ever needed was power - if the situation required a bloodbath, then be it, if it turned around, welcome good old capitalism. he'd approved things going on now, i guess.

peter
 

GregH
Posted on Friday, January 31, 2003 - 10:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Peter-

I went to www.gaz.ru.looking for this thing. They have english version and couldn't find this vehicle but I did look at the GAZ 3120-it really does resemble the old GAZ 69. Any other places to look?

GregH
 

Gregh
Posted on Friday, January 31, 2003 - 10:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I did a google search for "GAZ 2975 Tiger" and came up with quite a few hits in russian and other languages that offer translations. Looks interesting.

GregH

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