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Author Message   Brian Friend (Brianfriend) Posted on Monday, February 03, 2003 - 11:22 am:    Here is some good advice. Last Sat. night I was pulling my front end apart and removing the shrapnel from my left and right swivel housing and I went inside to tell my wife that I was going to have to buy front left and right axles and c.v. joints. I was very excited with my good news and I pointed out how much more expensive the repair could have been. I told her that it could have been the ring gear or even the differential. (secretly I was hoping that I had destroyed my gears becasu I want to go to 411) My timing and my attemp at creating a positive spin on the repair was not received with the same enthusiasim as I had hoped for. In relation to timeing, it seems that while I was in the garage drinking beer and "playing" with the truck my wife was bussy working on taxes. Uh, oh. My enthusiasim was pulled from my body much as the ground pulles oil from a Rover. Her eyes burned through me as she said, "I added up what you spent on "my car" last year." Double uh,oh especially since I bought the truck for her as a christmass present. I was thinking to myself, oh .hit I am in big trouble now. "Take a guess", se said. Now I am not the smartest guy in the world but I knew that nothing good was possible form that question, and my self preservation instinct came in to play. I said, "uhhh...probably....(calculating and subtracting in my head, I knew my answere would dictate the rest of my wheeling lively hood)..uhhh $500?" CRAP. Fear ran through my blood as her eyes peirced my soul. "Wrong!" she said. "Try $8000." I felt like falling to the ground and curling up into a fetal position, I was busted and the evience was irrefutable. I could see my wheeling life flashing before my eyes. With fumes and beer clouding my brain the gravity of the situation was still crystol clear. I instantly knew my error. I had saved all my receipts! So now two days later my truck is still broken and and unless the Rover Gods smile apon me and rain c.v. from the sky the truck will sit where it lays with no light at the end of the tunnel. I must now go covbert with repairs. The moral of the story...DO NOT, UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCE, KEEP YOUR ROVER RECEIPTS.   Paul D. Morgan (V22guy) Posted on Monday, February 03, 2003 - 11:30 am:    LOL Brian, I had a similiar discussion two nights ago with the Mrs. when I told her that we "need" a winch. Her idea of "need" and my idea of "need" are two different things. Anyway, the question came up, "So Paul, how much money did you drop on your beloved PIG?" Before I could answer she broke down the 2002 list of stuff. So now I am saving my lunch money for that winch. Paul '00 Pig   muskyman Posted on Monday, February 03, 2003 - 11:34 am:    brian, pull the front driveshaft and all the axle hardware lock the CDL and drive it in 2wheel for awhile first snow storm she will either beg you to fix it or make you sell it two more words SLUSH FUND thom   Ken Tipton (Irish_Nv) Posted on Monday, February 03, 2003 - 11:36 am:    "So now two days later "MY TRUCK" is still broken and and unless the Rover Gods smile apon me and rain c.v. from the sky the truck will sit where it lays with no light at the end of the tunnel." Brian don't you mean your wife truck. LOL Same thing happened to; me wife found the reciepts to my "$200" OME lift and tires. more like $800 and a couple years ago found the reciept for my "$500" SG bumper skid and lights that one was a little harder to explain. You would think I would learn but NOPE. I find it is easier to ask for forgivness then to ask for permission.   AndyThoma Posted on Monday, February 03, 2003 - 11:52 am:    When I used to manage a bicycle shop I had a customer buy a $4000 custom road bike from me. He had me make up two receipts. One was for the actual price that he hid away and another for his wife to see that said the total cost was $800. I laughed at the time and did it, but now that I'm married I do the same thing. I too had a $200 bill for ome springs and bilsten shocks. My IPF's only cost $120 for two pair. Now to get that $200 winch ... Andy   muskyman Posted on Monday, February 03, 2003 - 12:01 pm:    guys it works both ways my wife will buy a stack of clothes, split it up amongst three cards, the debit, the credit and a department store card. she thinks she's getting away with it. except I only sit at one desk when I pay bills thom   John Moore (Jmoore) Posted on Monday, February 03, 2003 - 12:05 pm:    LOL! I do the same thing! Gotta have a slush fund! Andy, good idea about two receipts! -John   Sean Hanagan (Seanh) Posted on Monday, February 03, 2003 - 12:08 pm:    Be very careful boys you are on VERY thin ice. If the wife finds out you might be roll'n in a sweet mid-80's civic. Brian, $8000 sounds steep! You could have scored that sweet D90 your buddy was selling a while back. Hindsight is 20/20 97 Disco+$8000(parts&repairs)=95 D90 w/ ARB's and 35"s DOH!   Greg Davis (Gregdavis) Posted on Monday, February 03, 2003 - 12:30 pm:    Guys, guys. Keep your receipts at work. If you need a journal entry for your check book, remember one (or more) of your local grocery stores. And yes, slush funds are mandatory, as is the work address for eBay items. Hey, I've tried the "Honesty is the best policy" method. Obviously, that guy wasn't married. What she doesn't know won't hurt her. But it WILL hurt you if she finds out!   Prescottj (Prescottj) Posted on Monday, February 03, 2003 - 12:30 pm:    I always hate the way the wife acts when I bring something home it's like I try to sneak it buy her but it never works. I was in trouble last week when I brought home a 36inch hdtv and man let me tell you I got an earfull. She takes cares of all the finances and gives me a weekley allowance like i'm a little kid. which works for me because I'll spend a lot if i'm not limited. But latley i'm starting to feel like i'm getting jipped she's way overinvesting MY money like 50-60% she runs my money like we are on this tight budget. First she pays into retirement, then bills, then splits it 4 ways 10% vacation 70% general 10% me and 10% her. But out of my 10% I have to pay for repairs to my 96 Disco and that 70% general I never see. So it's more like 80% her. It took me 6 months to save up for a new dirtbike and it took her a blink of the eye to save up for a brand new living room. Which caused me hella work cause then she wanted it painted, recarpeted then to top it off I had to install 2 cieling fans and a woodstove. urrrrrgggghhhhh next weekend instead of having fun I will be making a stone wall to back up the fire place. anyway I had to get that off my chest and I think i'm way off the topic. I have the urge to go take the debit card and order and buy new tires at lunch today   Rans (Rans) Posted on Monday, February 03, 2003 - 12:31 pm:    Way to rub salt in the wound Sean! Here's my technique..... "Oh Honey, remember how you said you love Classic Range Rovers? And Green is your favorite color? Well I found a 1995 LWB in green and I'm buying it for you! Oh, and it's under $10k!!" So now she has her own Rover. "Honey, let me put a lift on your LWB RRC for you!" "Um no, thats ok, it doesn't need it...put it on your own truck, leave mine alone." "Well, okay honey." "Honey, I found a great new bumper for your truck...let me put it on!" "Um, no thanks, I like the bumper thats on it...put it on your truck if you like it so much!" "Damn honey, you never let me do anything for you!" "Oh you're such a sweet giving man!" Charm my friend!! Oh, and lose the receipts! Thats what your desk at work is for!   Alex Cabrera (Alexcabrera) Posted on Monday, February 03, 2003 - 12:31 pm:    Its addictive to say the least.   Paul D. Morgan (V22guy) Posted on Monday, February 03, 2003 - 12:41 pm:    Hey Randy, I am trying to work that trick. But ever since the H2 visit, Ann Marie doesn't want a Rover. Damn GM marketing!   Jess Alvarez (Jester) Posted on Monday, February 03, 2003 - 12:47 pm:    I dated a girl once that didnt like how I spent my money. She complained about me not wanting to spend 40 bucks on a shower curtain, but that I would just as easily go and drop 300 dollars on some offroading equipment. I dumped her immediately thereafter. You see? This is why when people ask me "So, are you married?" my answer always is: "Nope, I have been HAPPY all my life."   Brian Friend (Brianfriend) Posted on Monday, February 03, 2003 - 12:50 pm:    Sean, Don't you have some 13year olds' minds to poison? Besides that I hate the Defender!   Chris von Czoernig (Chrisvonc) Posted on Monday, February 03, 2003 - 01:13 pm:    Who was selling the D90? Chris von C.   TPH (Snowman) Posted on Monday, February 03, 2003 - 01:26 pm:    Anyone else hear the distinct sound of a ball and chain?   Grant Lawson (Grant) Posted on Monday, February 03, 2003 - 01:27 pm:    I get to keep half of my overtime money for ME, this was negotiated ...... now i also have a separate acount for "found" money, i am not audited but it sure seems like it!!!   Greg P. (Gparrish) Posted on Monday, February 03, 2003 - 01:30 pm:    Hope your girlfriends and wives don't check out that "Dweb" site your always talking about.................... Something about commiting your tricks to writing that makes it harder to lie................   Pugsly (Pugsly) Posted on Monday, February 03, 2003 - 01:50 pm:    It's even worse for me - we track all our expenses on Quicken, so I can quickly run a report and see that in 2002 I spent... the horror... the horror... Fortunately, I don't think my wife has done this. She knows I've spent a lot, but I don't think she realizes how large the amount is...   Dean Brown (Deanbrown3d) Posted on Monday, February 03, 2003 - 02:25 pm:    I was given $20 max to spend on a winch LOL I managed to beat her up to $200 by being very nice, but at that point I just went and got us stuck in the mud, and took hours to dig out (along with all the stories of 'perhaps we'll have to stay here overnight....') and then she finally gave in   Blue (Bluegill) Posted on Monday, February 03, 2003 - 03:14 pm:    you have to create slush categories on Quicken. I've found dummy categories like "gifts", "misc home expense", "medicine for baby", etc work well.   Peter Carey (Pcarey) Posted on Monday, February 03, 2003 - 05:42 pm:    Blue, I hear Saddam has the same "medicine for baby" category, but I think he uses MS Money. I personally gave up lying. It just didn't work and I felt like crap anyway. So now I don't say much when she showed up this weekend with a pressure cooker and other stuff. Give and take, give and take.... pwc   muskyman Posted on Monday, February 03, 2003 - 05:45 pm:    sounds like my tax summery.... my wifes uncle once was sitting with one of my 4x4 magazines looking at my scout. my mother in law asked what he was doing. he said totaling up all the money that son in law of yours has into this thing, "25000 best I see it." my father in law told him mind your own business "I seam to remember a new truck every two years in your past Albert." my father in law passed away a little over 3 years ago...Damn I miss that guy   KJ Posted on Monday, February 03, 2003 - 06:16 pm:    Heeheehee....I'm enjoying this perhaps just a little bit too much.....ROTFLOL! Karen   Brian Friend (Brianfriend) Posted on Monday, February 03, 2003 - 07:53 pm:    I used to try to convince her that every thing I did was for safety reasons but she is way to educated for that now. Sometimes I still try but she just rolls her eyes. I like the medicine for baby idea. Who could argue the great care the baby is getting and who would deprive the baby of medicine. That is very covert indeed. You know what I really hate though? I hate sales. "See how much money I saved" is a standard statement. And of course I used to say, "see how much you would have saved if you didn't buy it." I don't say stuff like that anymore cause she has the proof, the damb receips.   Sean Hanagan (Seanh) Posted on Monday, February 03, 2003 - 11:15 pm:    Brian, They are 11, and one man's poison is another man's education. If you hate the defender soooo much how come you have conviently placed one just outside your window at work. I know what you do with down time. I've seen the drool stains on your desk.   Dave_Lucas (Dave_Lucas) Posted on Tuesday, February 04, 2003 - 12:10 am:    Damn, I am a lucky man, my wife never questions any purchase I make. I love that girl   Brad Posted on Tuesday, February 04, 2003 - 12:53 am:    I am not married. but have a girlfriend that wants a ring. "Don't you want to have the disco raised just think how cool it would be and I am so close to having it one more pay check." she just says yeah you are right. Its been 3 months.   Brian Friend (Brianfriend) Posted on Tuesday, February 04, 2003 - 10:46 am:    Dave, Do you want me to e-mail this thread to your wife for you?   Keith Armstrong Posted on Tuesday, February 04, 2003 - 05:07 pm:    No, no, no. Receipts are your friend! It's your filing system that needs to be examined We (wife #2 and I) have no fewer than 5 checking accounts in a variety of hers, mine and ours. Guess which ones the Rover expenditures come out of Remember; #1 its tax time all year long and #2, Mr. Insurance Man may want you to prove what all those "safety items" you added to the Rover really cost. Cheers, Keith Armstrong, CPA   TPH (Snowman) Posted on Tuesday, February 04, 2003 - 07:36 pm:    "Sales", to spend money on things we don't need.   Rob Vreeland (Cruzths) Posted on Tuesday, February 04, 2003 - 07:46 pm:    To this day my wife still thinks my $500 Safari Gard front bumper came with the skid plate, recovery points AND winch. And thank god she never came across the receipt for my car stereo.   Brian Friend (Brianfriend) Posted on Tuesday, February 04, 2003 - 09:27 pm:    Funny that you say that snowman. A good salesman can sell me anything. There is a hod dog stand right by my work and those guys come around and take orders and then deliver it. Hell of a marketing campaign. I bet those guys makes tons of money. It doesn't matter if I have just eaten A wendys triple cheese when they come around I have to buy something. I am very very weak. brian   muskyman Posted on Tuesday, February 04, 2003 - 09:34 pm:    and fat soon too   Brian Friend (Brianfriend) Posted on Tuesday, February 04, 2003 - 09:39 pm:    Musky..yes that too. Hell I even bought a Kirby vacume from a door to door guy. But I don't think they call it a vacume I think they call it a "home cleaning and utopia system"   Brian Dickens (Bri) Posted on Wednesday, February 05, 2003 - 07:48 am:    Hey Dave, I am with you-- no questions asked. I also make sure to say that the new curtains, kitchenaid mixer and christmas decorations sure look nice. But darn it, I'd have axels, lockers and gears if it wasn't for those other items. Bri   TPH (Snowman) Posted on Wednesday, February 05, 2003 - 07:52 am:    Hey a Kirby is a reasonable investment if you like a really clean home. Compared to the usual stuff offered by Sears, Bissell ect. it with last a lifetime. I live by, "No sale is complete until both parties are happy". Hot dog delivery? They must have great margins. I am a fan of Hebrew National hot dogs myself.   Greg French (Gregfrench) Posted on Wednesday, February 05, 2003 - 08:33 am:    How many of you guys go out and find things to fix on your rigs when they are running perfectly? I know I do. I will sometimes spend all weekend under and inside it creating things to fix, and getting all dirty and bloody and sometimes pissed off about the "Stupid truck" and how my repair isn't going as well as I planned even though it wasn't broken in the first place. Why do we cause ourselves so much grief? Because we like to..That's why. It gives us peace. For me it is like I am in my own little world when I am working on her. All of my other problems seem to go away, and I am focused...almost zen-like...on my task. The bottom line is- we, as men, need an outlet. We need hobbies. We need things that women don't understand. My wife sometimes complains about not seeing me all day saturday because I was out working on the "Stupid truck." But that's ok, because I usually have some feeling of accomplishment after I am done. I am relaxed and happy. She knows I like doing it, so she usually leaves me alone, because I can spend all night feeling good and doing some wierd female thing with her that night. Money well spent if you ask me. It keeps you from going out and blowing up buildings and slapping your family around. Or, at the very least, being a complete asshole to be around. She should thank you for spending the money. Funny, though, how my idea of a good, relaxing time is spending the day alone with my truck and my thoughts and her idea is spending hers with me... I'll never understand women.   Ramsay (3toedsloth) Posted on Wednesday, February 05, 2003 - 09:01 am:    Ah, the carefree life of a college student... JR   Milan (Milan) Posted on Wednesday, February 05, 2003 - 10:26 am:    "Umarried men live like humans but die like dogs. Married man live like dogs but die like humans." A saying we have...   Ho Chung (Ho) Posted on Wednesday, February 05, 2003 - 12:21 pm:    you all need a separate hidden checking account.   Ali Posted on Wednesday, February 05, 2003 - 02:19 pm:    I'm really appreciating my wife after reading this tale! Think I better buy her another gift for her birtday tomorrow.   C. Brown Posted on Wednesday, February 05, 2003 - 03:38 pm:    Hi Everyone, as the wife of a Disco owner and an owner herself, I can't understand the the emotions here...yes I would be pissed if he spent $8k on his truck in a year, but I can understand a treat here or there, heck I try to get him to buy more for his truck and I have bought him gifts/parts for his truck...I guess the point is to buy in moderation and you can never go wrong!!! I fully support my husband and his hobby...of course I tell him my truck (DSII) is better than his...he strongly disagrees, but what the hell does a man know!! :-)   Andrew Clarke (Aclarke) Posted on Wednesday, February 05, 2003 - 08:22 pm:    Or try spending over $9000 in maintaining (not even upgrading) an '88 Jeep Cherokee in less than 1.5 years. After that hideous experience, nothing I've done to the Disco has caused too much marital grief. That and my wife thinks built Discos look cool and macho. And I let her buy whatever car she wanted and the payment alone costs her car $400/month more than my Disco so if anything that guilts her into being a little more lenient on me ;-) And my opinion is that for a long-term marriage, honesty IS the ONLY policy. Unfortunately I'm speaking from experience there...   Greg Davis (Gregdavis) Posted on Thursday, February 06, 2003 - 10:02 am:    OK, you're right. I've been married 13 years and honesty IS the way to go. But full disclosure is NOT!!!!!   Paul T. Schram (Paulschram) Posted on Thursday, February 06, 2003 - 03:17 pm:    I'm in a similar boat. Second wife, two Rovers. When we bought the Series truck, it was hers, even though it was bought with money from the shop account. You should have been there when I blew up the disco by running it in the cold with insufficient glycol! She did have the kindness to wait until the tears had dried on my face! She quickly recovered and said that the winch looks nice beneath the valve covers (implying correctly that had I not blown the damned thing up, I would have been able to afford a cheap winch. I can't even use the excuse that I'm saving money by working on it myself as she promptly tells me that I'm the one who broke it! Now, you should hear the hell I go through when she discovers the packages on the back porch. If I tell her the parts are for customers, she quickly asks who, and when have I scheduled the work to be done-this is always said as a challenge because I tend to schedule work on days that I've forgotten she has something more important scheduled. All in all, I'll put up with the vocalizing because she doesn't beat on me like wife number one, to whom I was only married 193 days before I changed the locks on the house, and we are approaching our first anniversary the day after Valentine's day! I know she loves me and appreciates the Rovers, but I could use less commenting about costs of repairs that I caused and now, the new kick, fuel costs! I don't think I'll tell her I did a spreadsheet analyzing the miles driven, fuel consumed, etc. for my near 100 mile round-trip daily commute to work. PEace, Paul   Jack Quinlan (Jsq) Posted on Friday, February 07, 2003 - 07:55 pm:    this thread is rather timely indeed. I just totalled up the receipts for my rover over the last 4 months and it's about 7k. of course, i'm single and have no one to hide it from but myself. my coworker is a slightly different story. we both just bought RTE bumpers and had them delivered to work. Mine came a few weeks ago (of course, it's great!) His just showed up today. He's out of town on work so I took it over to his house where his wife and daughter were waiting. I had already carefully removed the receipts from the packaging. "so how much does one of these things cost?" she asks me. "I'm just going to put it here behind his truck in the garage ok?" I respond. Then I offer "yep, just got mine on and I feel so much SAFER already". Again she insists, "so you didn't say how much it costs". "Ohhhhhhh mine was about 350. It's just some guy in Virginia who makes them in his garage..." Please note that my coworker also just bought a M15 warn from John that showed up three days ago. "Well," she says "that's not as much as I hoped, see I want to buy this bed but it's 6000 dollars so I was hoping this was a few thousand..."