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Blue (Bluegill)
| | Posted on Thursday, February 06, 2003 - 12:52 pm: | 
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was driving fine, pulled into parking garage with Uhaul trailer, unhitched trailer and backed trailer into a spot, then went to move 1996 Disco and auto trans stuck in park. I wired in the uhaul wiring harness and everything works fine with the trailer lights. I'm partially blocking entrance to garage, and tow truck will be coming soon.
I'm researching that damn switch tied into the brake pedal, but is there any quick way to bypass the damn switch so I can move the DIsco? Could the trailer wiring and this problem be connected? |
Pugsly (Pugsly)
| | Posted on Thursday, February 06, 2003 - 12:57 pm: |
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I don't think the trailer wiring could be connected to the problem (but with Lucas at work, who really knows?)
Be sure to put transfer case in neutral before the tow truck driver tries to move it!
I wish the LRs had an override for the shift interlock. At times like this it would be really useful. |
Peter Matusov (Pmatusov)
| | Posted on Thursday, February 06, 2003 - 12:58 pm: |
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Blue, of course there is - a wire with alligator clips. your brake lights may remain on, but you can drive around.
i'm still pissed about how ugly is to change the brake switch on the range rover... took me two freakin' hours last night! half an hour just to dig through the crap around the pedal. since the cruise control wasn't working, i used the contacts on the c.c. switch. They were normally-closed (as opposed to normally-open on the gear interlock switch), so i had to use a relay to cludge together a working brake light setup.
peter |
Blue (Bluegill)
| | Posted on Thursday, February 06, 2003 - 01:01 pm: |
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brake lights work fine
can't hear the mechanical release at the shifter when I press the brake pedals
checking fuses now
going to also wiggle microswitches at the shifter |
Monte Blumenfeld (Monteman71)
| | Posted on Thursday, February 06, 2003 - 01:14 pm: |
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Check fuse 25 i think |
Blue (Bluegill)
| | Posted on Thursday, February 06, 2003 - 01:40 pm: |
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brake pedal switch is the black box with four pins, labelled AMR 2010 TRW M
correct?
I have it out and will have to find a replacement.
anyone know which wires (corresponding to the 4 pins in the switch) I can quick connect to at least get this driveable so I can 1) move it out of the way and 2) get the replacement part? Pin connector is unidirectional - one end is rounded.
a $20 bill to the right guy has postponed the tow truck for a little bit |
Peter Matusov (Pmatusov)
| | Posted on Thursday, February 06, 2003 - 01:54 pm: |
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yes, this looks like a correct part to me.
if you have a DMM, it is rather easy to find which ones control the brake lights and which ones - the interlock.
'far as i can remember, it was two pins in the middle that needed to be shorted. i pulled the switch out (so my brake lights were on) and had the interlock pins shorted, until i bought a replacement.
peter |
Alan Bates (Alanb)
| | Posted on Thursday, February 06, 2003 - 02:29 pm: |
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Pulled this off atlantic british's website:
Can't shift out of park - Troubleshooting
Vehicle - Landrover Discovery and 1995 Range Rover Classic
Check to see if you have stoplights. No lights check:
a. Fuse f1 in the fascia fuse box ok? (Discovery, if the fuse the blows check the terminals on the back window grids making sure they are not touching each other causing a short. They get bent easily)
b. Inspect the brake light switch on the brake pedal (The brake light switch has four wires on it and the cruise switch has two wires and a vacuum line on it).
If switch is intact:
a. Jump the green/purple wire and the green/orange wire; the brake lights should come on enabling the shift out of park.
b. Caution! The brake lights will be on all the time. Have problem repaired as soon as possible. Also you may get an ABS fault stored.
4. If you have stoplights pop the top of the shift lever off and check to see if the clip on the button is intact. They have been known to come off and not lift the rod in the handle.
1992-1994 Range Rover Classic:
Same as above except: Dash fuse box fuse# B1 and jump wires: white/purple and green/purple at brake light switch #AMR2010G.
http://www.atlanticbritish.com/techtips_main.html
Hope it helps. |
EricV (Bender2033)
| | Posted on Thursday, February 06, 2003 - 03:17 pm: |
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Man,
You guys seriously ROCK!
Beers for everyone (I hope YUENGLING is ok)!
Go dwebebrs GO! |
Blue (Bluegill)
| | Posted on Thursday, February 06, 2003 - 03:36 pm: |
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problem solved
disco moved, not towed
it was the damn switch
thanks everyone, and thanks to LR Denver East for the part....hey Craig Highland - I just missed you by a few minutes - apparently you were out to lunch or sleeping in the back room or some kind of slacking....
LATER  |
gp (Garrett)
| | Posted on Thursday, February 06, 2003 - 04:02 pm: |
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yeah i keep an extra switch in the truck from now on. or if someone i am with has one go. they are good for RRC's too. imagine if you were 100 miles out in the woods. luckily a shop 2 blocks from my truck had the part. |
Kim S (Roverine)
| | Posted on Thursday, February 06, 2003 - 07:14 pm: |
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This is what Discoweb is about! 
Glad you got that one solved nicely Blue! Best wishes on the rest of your drive.
Kim |
Mark
| | Posted on Thursday, February 06, 2003 - 10:14 pm: |
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Where do you find the switch. In case i get stuck too. Thanks..... |
EricV (Bender2033)
| | Posted on Thursday, February 06, 2003 - 11:01 pm: |
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Yes, please take a picture maybe write a tech article with pics ... that would be great!
Did you short out the switch to get it running ... via the same method listed on the AB site?
Thanks! |
KJ
| | Posted on Thursday, February 06, 2003 - 11:28 pm: |
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This was like watching surgery! Wonderful team work, boys. Since this is up for discussion again, I've wanted to ask: Does the DII suffer this same potential problem? Seems like I've read it does, resulting in loads of tows to the dealership by new owners. What a system....
Karen |
gp (Garrett)
| | Posted on Friday, February 07, 2003 - 07:54 am: |
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any car/truck can suffer this (that has the shift override), but i remember wayyyyyyyyy back this was talked about. that is why when this happened to me last summer i knew just what it was. i had just started dating my girlfriend and she was there and more than impressed with my diagnosis. well maybe it was my nice ass, but who knows. regardless i knew where to look and what to replace. took 5-10 mins. and we were on our way. had to walk 2 blocks to get the part. was very lucky.....a dealer item type part. dealer is 1.5 hours from me.
keep an extra one in your truck. they cost about $35 or so. |
Ken Dunnington (Ihwillys)
| | Posted on Friday, February 07, 2003 - 08:24 am: |
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OK, so has anyone just permanently disabled this 'feature'? Not one of my other automatic trans vehicles has anything like this(they are all old, made back when we didn't have to be saved from ourselves). I have not determined a *really good* reason to leave this brake/shifter interlock system in place just so it can fail and cause grief(OK, so it helped Garrett impress the lady, I'm long past fooling my wife).
Mildly amusing anecdote on this subject: My in-laws were in Silverthorne having trouble driving their son's Landcruiser. After fueling it would not come out of park. They called us, were discussing it with us a few folks on the spot for a while. Then someone else gave it a shot and it went right into gear. Hmmm. It seems Roy(FIL) wasn't putting his foot on the brake while attempting to go from park to reverse/drive/whatever. This was his first vehicle that had this wonderful safety feature.
Ken |
joshua Frances (Joshua)
| | Posted on Friday, February 07, 2003 - 10:04 am: |
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You should have all gotten a 5 speed disco
I dont think I will ever run into that problem
(though my clutch will blwo one day, and ill be totaly screwed) |
Blue (Bluegill)
| | Posted on Friday, February 07, 2003 - 10:30 am: |
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I just replaced the switch, I didn't bypass. But those directions Alan posted are getting printed out. I'll take a pic of the location and the part later. Too damn cold here in this city now. I need to get back to the desert... |
KJ
| | Posted on Friday, February 07, 2003 - 11:48 am: |
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gp,
The only way we'd know for sure would be to see a pic of your ass. Ask Blake how to take one.
Karen |
gp (Garrett)
| | Posted on Friday, February 07, 2003 - 12:47 pm: |
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i better shave the puppy before i start snapping pics of it. i think i have a few pics stashed away somewhere. |
Greg Davis (Gregdavis)
| | Posted on Friday, February 07, 2003 - 12:59 pm: |
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Damn mental images. I'm done for the day now! |
KJ
| | Posted on Friday, February 07, 2003 - 10:43 pm: |
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Heh, heh, heh.... guys are SO easy to gross out.....
Karen |
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