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     Brian Friend (Brianfriend) advanced member Username: Brianfriend Post Number: 370 Registered: 09-2002 |
I got your name from some folks that said you used Dodge Caravan cv parts on your disco. Wondering if you can help me? brian | ||
| Paul T. Schram (Paulschram) Member Username: Paulschram Post Number: 982 Registered: 02-2002 |
Mike Slade does not own a Discovery. He has an 80" Series One, a 130 "Defender" and a dead Rangie that is currently being disassembled. Both the 80 and the 130 are highly hybridized. The use of Dodge minivan CV parts in Rovers is often discussed on the "Pirates of the Rubicon" BBS, www.pirate4x4.com. Supposedly, the bell is interchangeable with Rover. Paul | ||
| Jeremy Katka (Jkatka) Member Username: Jkatka Post Number: 215 Registered: 02-2002 |
I'll step in really quick here as I have bugged Slade to no end about this. GNK sold the design of the 80's ±90's caravan cvs to Dodge. It is essentially a similar design to the LR RRC and Disco CV joints although the stub and bellhousing are different enough that they can not be used. But if you only need innards you may be in luck they are the same size. Go to a parts yard and get a late 80's cv off a dodge and see for yourself. Sorry I do not have a part number. JK | ||
| Paul T. Schram (Paulschram) Senior Member Username: Paulschram Post Number: 983 Registered: 02-2002 |
Jeremy: I was under the impression that the star was not interchangeable. There is currently a discussion of longfielded CVs on the Pirates website that alludes to the use of the Dodge CVs. This is a question probably better posed to either Bill Davis of GBR fame or John B-S of Rovertym fame. | ||
| Jeremy Katka (Jkatka) Senior Member Username: Jkatka Post Number: 216 Registered: 02-2002 |
I could be wrong there. There are a number of variations of the cv (for the awd fwd rwd abs nonabs) caravans they also changed spline count a few times in there. I am pretty sure that there is a star that has the same spline count as the LR. It would however be nice to see if anyone has a part number that could be bought from NAPA or some such for the innards. I believe there are 8 diffrent part numbers for the axels from 88±95. Before that they were Citroen designed. http://www.yac.com.tw/cvj/dodge.htm they seem to have the best info about the diff cv's. Hope this helps sort things out Paul. JK | ||
| thom mathie (Muskyman) Advanced member Username: Muskyman Post Number: 109 Registered: 11-2002 |
(sung to the tune of 'The Flintstones') NA-PA Head to NA-PA They've got CV guts for you to buy! (bah! bah!) From the Town of De-troit Chrysler Mini-Van is what you want.... That's right When the CV's hit the fan That's when You get the CV's from the van NA-PA Head to NA-PA You'll save a big ol' dime!!!! __________________ Later, Michael Slade i laughed so hard when I read this thought people would laugh as well. thom | ||
| Jaime (Blueboy) advanced member Username: Blueboy Post Number: 500 Registered: 02-2002 |
yeah, also thought it was pretty funny. can't get their page to open for some reason. did he mention or do you know what part number for what year/model LR? or doesn't it matter. thx. Jaime | ||
| Michael Slade Unregistered guest |
Ok, before anyone starts to call me an 'expert' on the Chrysler CV's I would defer to Timm Cooper at BCBOffRoad. (www.bcboffroad.com) Give him or Matthew a call and discuss which axle you have, which CV's you have, what the spline count is etc... Basically we took CV's out of a '90 RR and CV's out of a late 80's minivan and swapped the internals over. I have photographs illustrating very well that all the parts are indeed the same. They are all a derivation of a standard GKN design, the bell section being the only major difference. Star, balls, cage, everything swapped over. In fact, the cage was manufactured better on the minivan CV than the cage on the LR CV. Less rough edges and stress risers on the minivan CV. I know there are hundreds of different combinations you could potentially get from the Chrysler CV, and depending on your year of LR (Disco/RR/D90/110/other), you might have one of perhaps 4 different varieties of CV's. Like I said, call Timm. He's the one that figured it out after all. I just happened to be there with my jaw dropped to the shop floor while he figured it out. Later, Michael | ||
| Michael Slade Unregistered guest |
Oh yeah, and as far as my 'stable' of LR's is concerned, I also have 2 '94 LWB's and a cooking trailer that was made out of the rear of a 2-door 110 and an 88inch frame. Just in case anyone was curious. I am parting out the '90 RR (4.2 longblock and heads, transmission, BW, F/R axles w/ARB's, etc....) | ||
| Brian Friend (Brianfriend) advanced member Username: Brianfriend Post Number: 376 Registered: 09-2002 |
Michael, Thank you for the good scoop. The info that you have provided may indeed change the face of the Land Rover wheeling earth. If you happen to know off the top of your head what I need that would be great. 97 disco. I will poke around the web sight and see if I can find any info. I am hesitant to call Tim because I am sure he is bussy running abusiness and could better spend his time helping paying customers rather than someone calling for free info. I don't mind being a cheep bastard but not when it burns up someone elses time making a living. Maybe I'll drop him an e-mail. | ||
| Michael Slade Unregistered guest |
Brian, Yeah, Timm has made a living off of giving out free information. I appreciate your consideration and hesitation to call him. An e-mail would probably be the best way to get concise accurate information that you could spread. I think if you went to NAPA or your local wrecking yard, asked for a CV joint for a late 80's early 90's Chrysler mini-van (front wheel drive, ABS doesn't matter) that the star/balls/cage would fit your axle. I have an empty ball that I've been needing to do this excercize with (getting the spare that is), so maybe this is a good time to go ahead and do it. If I find out anything I'll re-post. For any other follow-up, feel free to e-mail me privately. mike@tawayama.com Thanks, Michael PS I lurk here, but don't check everything all the time. Someone else actually had to tell me to answer my own thread (I'm flattered actually). | ||
| Brian Friend (Brianfriend) advanced member Username: Brianfriend Post Number: 377 Registered: 09-2002 |
Thanks Mike. BTW...you are now famous throught the world wide web. brian |
