| Author | Message | ||
     R. B. Bailey (Rover50987) Senior Member Username: Rover50987 Post Number: 267 Registered: 07-2002 |
Take a look at these photos... maybe I'm stuck, maybe I'm not. I don't have a whole lot of off-road experience, so be honest with me, what would you do in your stock Disco I with worse than stock street tires on? The ground was grassy before I drove here, but there was so much water flowing under the surface, that within 3 minutes those tracks had filled up, and were overflowing with water - it was not raining.  http://landrover.mrbaileyshistory.net | ||
| R. B. Bailey (Rover50987) Senior Member Username: Rover50987 Post Number: 268 Registered: 07-2002 |
And...  | ||
| Blue (Bluegill) Senior member Username: Bluegill Post Number: 1895 Registered: 02-2002 |
drive home | ||
| Carter Simcoe (Carter) Senior member Username: Carter Post Number: 1875 Registered: 04-2002 |
What do you want to know???? How to get it out or how to not let it happen again?? How to get it out: If you can get another truck have them tow you out w/ a tow strap. If you can't get another truck, get a highlift jack the rear up by the trailer hitch until the tires will clear the ruts and then push it over so it falls to either side of them, get in give it some gas and hope for the best. How to not let it happen again: Get better tires, use more momentum. You weren't in low range for some reason were you??? | ||
| Land Rover Certified Used A**hole (Jason) Senior Member Username: Jason Post Number: 287 Registered: 04-2002 |
You shoulda been driving an H2... | ||
| Carter Simcoe (Carter) Senior member Username: Carter Post Number: 1876 Registered: 04-2002 |
Yeah, thats it get an H2 then you wouldn't even have to worry about going out in the muddy field because GM has already TOLD you that it is possible for your truck to drive through it.  (No disrespect meant to the ONE H2 owner around here with balls, just all the others) | ||
| Andrew Clarke (Aclarke) Senior Member Username: Aclarke Post Number: 250 Registered: 10-2002 |
I'd second the "get pulled out" vote. Judging from the other vehicle in the background it looks like that's what you did. If you were theoretically in the middle of nowhere you could also jack your wheels up and put some tree branches or rocks underneath and along your tracks for a while and try to get some momentum backing out and get the heck out of there. Or get about 20 locals to push you out. Also it looks a little too late for this technique but if you have a manual transmission (which you have, right?!?) you can rock back and forth in your mud holes and try to sort of "swing" your way out of the holes. If that makes any sense. You can do it with an auto too but you have to be mighty quick with the transmission lever... A shovel is a good friend to have. | ||
| Brian Friend (Brianfriend) Senior Member Username: Brianfriend Post Number: 423 Registered: 09-2002 |
Air down....a lot. Try not to spin the tires. Get some momentum and keep it but be very light on the throttle. Hate to point this out but....TREAD LIGHTLY...doesn't look like a trail to me. | ||
| Land Rover Certified Used A**hole (Jason) Senior Member Username: Jason Post Number: 288 Registered: 04-2002 |
[looking for Kyle...] SANDLADDER!!!!!! | ||
| M. K. Watson (Lrover94) Senior Member Username: Lrover94 Post Number: 684 Registered: 02-2002 |
is there a reason you could not idle back out? mike w | ||
| Brian J. Rohan (Rover_wannabe) Member Username: Rover_wannabe Post Number: 65 Registered: 09-2002 |
I would sell the roof rack, and get yourself a nice winch and recovery gear. Make sure your rig can get out of sticky situations before taking it out in said situations (anything off of the beaten path). As for not letting it happen again by getting an H2 that is very true. Your H2 will spend so much time back at the dealer in the shop it won't have a chance to get dirty. Although that tiny bit of extra ground clearance may have helped you get about a foot further before it sank up to the dif in the mud, leaving you that much further from solid ground and help. | ||
| R. B. Bailey (Rover50987) Senior Member Username: Rover50987 Post Number: 269 Registered: 07-2002 |
I was in LOW/DIFF LOCK. When this photo was taken the truck had simply driven in there - it sank that low just from gravety. It got worse when I started backing up and forward. I am also on a hill, going back would have meant up hill. going forward would have meant a 20 degree turn up to higher ground. I found that when I did try to get out I started sliding sideways into new tracks so that my old tracks started hanging up on my diffs. I had all four tires turning. And 15 feet back from this point I was going about 10mph. This is our own property, so I can tread however I want here - but your right Brian. I have seen cows stuck in this field. And that mud is so sticky that after driving home 9 miles I still have mud in the grooves! I had to get pulled out. First time I've been stuck. I did continue to have fun and went through a couple of other mud holes, that were shorter. Or, made a couple of mud holes, since there were none untill you drove there. I will post more on my web site later. | ||
| Carter Simcoe (Carter) Senior member Username: Carter Post Number: 1877 Registered: 04-2002 |
low range and mud don't mix very well | ||
| Keith Kreutzer (Revor) Member Username: Revor Post Number: 133 Registered: 11-2002 |
If you want to play in this field i would at least put some mud tires on... Then let a lot of air out... If that doesn't work save up for traction aiding devices in the diffs. Then you can do low range and sling mud all over the place to the delight of all who watch// | ||
| Carter Simcoe (Carter) Senior member Username: Carter Post Number: 1878 Registered: 04-2002 |
yep, theres nothing quite like a locked up truck w/ boggers in low range slinging big clumps of mud everywhere. But for an open diff truck w/ wimpy tires keep it in high next time you take off across the field. | ||
| phil (Powerslide) New Member Username: Powerslide Post Number: 34 Registered: 11-2002 |
If you have tire chains, put them on first before wheeling in your muddy property. I've wheeled in the jungles (Philippines) and even with mud tires, we put on tire chains on all four tires and you could not believe the added traction. Lets just say I've never been stuck. *you can also jack it up and then put the tire chains on but it is going to be messy. | ||
| R. B. Bailey (Rover50987) Senior Member Username: Rover50987 Post Number: 270 Registered: 07-2002 |
I'm kind of glad I got stuck. I've been stuck in the Series truck and my brother got stuck in his Land Cruiser, and I got stuck in my Nissan. But this has never gotten stuck before. ANYWAY - I checked the spot out before going in but it was deceptive. I did WANT to get stuck though, in other words: I was asking for it and I wasn't surprised. I just wanted to see if any of you would claim to be able to get out with those tires on!! I really do use the roof rack, we go camping with a kid, and a dog, a 12v fridge, and often with 4 adults! So using it to buy a winch is out of the question. I will be getting BFG M/T's when these are finished with their useful life. I just last weekend got my first tow rope (and used it last night)! My next purchace is probably a jack-all or heavy duty come-a-long. http://landrover.mrbaileyshistory.net | ||
| Chris Brennan (Cdmbrennan) New Member Username: Cdmbrennan Post Number: 6 Registered: 01-2003 |
Scenarios are good. A month after I bought my DiscoI I got stuck up to the sills of the doors in a nasty mud/water combination- tried crawling through slowly with 5 others in the car with in low/open diff. No momentum whatsoever. Had to get winched out by a tow truck...to the utter delight of the other 5 in the car. I can't tell you how this board has helped with situations since then- "tread lightly and tread smartly" now thanks to Dweb... BRING ON THE SCENARIOS!!! Better for all of us, novice and otherwise... | ||
| R. B. Bailey (Rover50987) Senior Member Username: Rover50987 Post Number: 271 Registered: 07-2002 |
Ya that is kind of the way I view it too. I have used this private land to practice getting over and through things. I have figured out how to keep from getting stopped in a cross-axle situation, how to handle failed hill climbs, how to trust the engine compression on a decent, and so on. Don't get me wrong though, this is not a situation I would have allowed myself to get into while away from help or out on the trail. This was 200 yards from a Ford F-350 super duty and a 4x4 farm tractor that weighs close to 10k. And the "safe" area to drive was literally 15 feet from where I was so I could be pulled out in either direction. I purposfully pushed my luck on getting through that area. I will try it in H range next time - or maybe I will get my new tires first, then try it in H range next time. These tires have really truely been nothing but trouble for me. Can't imagine how much better a good set of mud terrains must be on a vehicle like a Discovery! Usually I stick to the beaten path though, so no worries. | ||
| thom mathie (Muskyman) Senior member Username: Muskyman Post Number: 159 Registered: 11-2002 |
big tires, big power and tire spin  | ||
| Tom Rowe (Trowe) Member Username: Trowe Post Number: 12 Registered: 02-2003 |
I was going say to insepct the route first, but I guess that did you no good ;-) Momentem is good for getting through, but obviously you can do some serious damage if there is a hidden rock or stump. Or burried cow from the sounds of it. :-) It's a risk you have to decide when appropriate to take. FWIW I've never driven "mud" slicker and stickier than an area frequented by cows. Since it apparently took you a while to break through the crust, this is a situation where high floatation tires aired down might have gotten you through. From my experience driving in VT in mud season, when the roads are justlike that field, only without the grass, a VERY steady pace goes a long way to keeping you on top. Looked like fun though. |
