| Author | Message | ||
     lance (Twyst10) New Member Username: Twyst10 Post Number: 1 Registered: 02-2003 |
I just bought an eaton m112 supercharger for my disco, and I wanted to know if anyone has one or knows someone with one that can tell me a little more about there performance... someone came in to my local dealer that had bought this blower and it voided there warr. so he had it removed and asked the dealer to sell it for him. well I rode him out wheel and dealing and picked it up for a mear $450.00 complete w/ fuel rails, injectors, thorotle body, the whole nine yards! Good deal? I think so, just looking for some feed back before i install it. | ||
| Steve Sherman (Ssherman) Member Username: Ssherman Post Number: 49 Registered: 11-2002 |
 So now you're capable of this...  | ||
| lance (Twyst10) New Member Username: Twyst10 Post Number: 6 Registered: 02-2003 |
i guess so? we will have to see the results after i install it. do you have one? What a deal huh! I was so excited when he said he would let it go so cheap! | ||
| Gil Stevens (Gil) Member Username: Gil Post Number: 205 Registered: 02-2002 |
personally, I would try to sell it and make a profit. I think there is a reason that you dont see alot of blown discos. Its not like we dont ALL need that extra power. The few folks I know who have supercharged their Discos have had horrific experiences. | ||
| James Moy (Jmoy97) New Member Username: Jmoy97 Post Number: 2 Registered: 02-2003 |
I have one on my disco and no horrific or even bad experiences with mine. Jim | ||
| Christian Cartner (Cartner) New Member Username: Cartner Post Number: 22 Registered: 10-2002 |
Man, I'd put that sucker on E-Bay so fast....make a good profit, get a really nice rack or winch/bar combo...or...or...I'm giddy as a schoolgirl at a Backstreet show just thinkin about it....oh man...oh man.. | ||
| Peter Matusov (Pmatusov) Senior Member Username: Pmatusov Post Number: 487 Registered: 09-2002 |
Lance, IMHO - M112 may be okay for a 4.6, but for 4.0 it is a definite overkill. Jim, do you have 112, or 90, or 62? click here for Eaton blowers' info. peter | ||
| Neal Glessner (Nealg) Senior Member Username: Nealg Post Number: 569 Registered: 02-2002 |
Lance, Please keep us posted if you install it. I want to put one on my rig someday. b | ||
| Roland Kutasi (Disco1) New Member Username: Disco1 Post Number: 14 Registered: 10-2002 |
Here is the guts on supercharging a disco and the probable reason why you bought it so cheap. First of all don't be fooled by the above photo. The disco in the photo is very capable and sports an Eaton M112 with aquamist water injection as well as being a 4.6L It hails from Perth, Western Australia, however, to get the tyre burn out that you see you need to disconnect the front tail shaft. Now lets get down to the nitty gritties! I have a 4.7 litre stroked Disco fitted with a vortech supercharger. Prior to fitting the Vortech I had an Eaton M62 so I do know what I'am talking about. Fitting a supercharger to your engine is not as simple or as cheap as it seems, otherwise,everyone would have one. Here's some things to consider. 1. Eaton superchargers (doesn't matter which model) sits on top of the engine and gets very hot. As the Eaton compresses the intake air it generates more heat. The air entering the Eaton supercharger comes from inside your engine bay which again means more heat and unless you can find a way of reducing all this heat before it gets into your engine you will buying a new motor. So now we talk money! To reduce the heat in the engine bay by 50% you need to ceramic coat your exhaust manifold or extractors. To reduce the heat transfer from the engine through the supercharger again you need to ceramic coat the supercharger and mounting plate. To further cool the intake air you need to fit either an intercooler under the supercharger and this needs to be custom made and will require you to cut through the hood for it to fit, or you will need to install a water injection system. Now to the electricals. Plan on installing either a Haltech or Motec system to run the whole thing. Yeah I know, someones going to say all you need is a chip upgrade.....it won't work. Add an MSD ignition and upgraded leads and new spark plugs (one stage cooler). How much is all this? (Aussie Dollars) Ceramic coating sc and manifold $600 approx. Water injection (recommend Aquamist) $2000. MSD $450 Motec, around $4000. Summary: Go ahead and fit your supercharger, you will love every minute you drive your discovery but don't scrimp on the install or you will have a horrific experience. Regards, Roland | ||
| Carl D. (Cdoug3) New Member Username: Cdoug3 Post Number: 23 Registered: 01-2003 |
Actually a supercharger does not run nearly has hot as a turbo setup. I don't think that you would have to ceramic coat the sc and manifold. The water injection would also be nice (I have a Aquamist System waiting to go in my Audi) I think I paid $400 US for it. You may need to look into an intercooler. They are somewhat optional with supercharger but mandatory with turbochargers. Depending on whether or not the supercharger came with a chip or if you could find programming for it, I don't think that you would need the Motec. A chip should be able to work if you can find one or find a company that would make custom chip. On a different note, As much as I would like to install a super myself There is no way in hell I would do it. I bought the disco as a daily driver so that I would not have to drive the Audi, which has a larger turbocharger on it and even with the programming it seems as something always needs attention. The problem is that the disco and all other cars are designed for a certain amount torque and stress due to the torque and when you increase it, everything that moves in the drivetrain is subject to premature failure = not good for a daily driver. I am not sure how much boost those superchargers push with the disco but I would be nervous because I have heard that many of the engines knock as it is and if you add the super your liable to throw a piston or rod through the side. | ||
| lance (Twyst10) New Member Username: Twyst10 Post Number: 12 Registered: 02-2003 |
who do i go with? James or Roland? They both have one on there disco, one suggests all those upgrades required to do the job, and the other just says slap it on..... My mechanic said the heat issue is solved with a diff thermostat, and that the disco radiator is so large it will be fine.. Who knows, now I went from excited to nervous?????? What to do, what to do????? More help please | ||
| Joey Cox (Joey_cox) New Member Username: Joey_cox Post Number: 3 Registered: 02-2003 |
Lance, I will fix this problem for you. I will take it off your hands and install it on my Rover. As far as the above mentioned problems, I would not necessarily worry about them. Keep in mind the intentions here - to give your truck a little more power for on or offroad use. I doubt that you will be drag racing or street racing your truck. Therefore, the problems with extreme heat should not be a problem. A supercharger will produce more heat, but I do not believe enough to hurt anything in your application. Like I said earlier, if you'r too worried about it, just let me buy it from you. | ||
| lance (Twyst10) New Member Username: Twyst10 Post Number: 13 Registered: 02-2003 |
how much? money talks! | ||
| jerry d quintana (Exjeeper) New Member Username: Exjeeper Post Number: 6 Registered: 02-2003 |
Might want to check this out before starting These guys are from engalnd and build racing rover motors. they highly recomend not using a supercharger http://www.v8engines.com/engine3.htm#supercharging "Warning against Supercharging the 4.0 or 4.6 Engine | ||
| jerry d quintana (Exjeeper) New Member Username: Exjeeper Post Number: 7 Registered: 02-2003 |
Might want to check this out before starting These guys are from engalnd and build racing rover motors. they highly recomend not using a supercharger http://www.v8engines.com/engine3.htm#supercharging "Warning against Supercharging the 4.0 or 4.6 Engine | ||
| lance (Twyst10) New Member Username: Twyst10 Post Number: 14 Registered: 02-2003 |
I have already been emailed 2 times with offers, ($700.00 and the other after i told him of this offer was $850.00) it is obvously worth alot more than i paid, the option of selling it is not a bad one... let the bids begin. It is 4 mo old by the way so it is brand new! comes with everything ready to install, even the belts! | ||
| lance (Twyst10) New Member Username: Twyst10 Post Number: 15 Registered: 02-2003 |
That is for the m90 though, because it is to small for the engine. I have read up on this and mailed them, to find that the m112 covers & distrubute's better air flow for more even pressure's in each cylinder.. Much less problems then the m90. thanks though.... | ||
| Prescottj (Prescottj) Member Username: Prescottj Post Number: 235 Registered: 12-2002 |
if you want a bidding war put it on EBAY. | ||
| Prescottj (Prescottj) Member Username: Prescottj Post Number: 236 Registered: 12-2002 |
dont forget the !!!WOW!!! | ||
| Ron Brown (Ron) Member Username: Ron Post Number: 65 Registered: 04-2001 |
I see a new block in someones future Ron | ||
| Joey Cox (Joey_cox) New Member Username: Joey_cox Post Number: 4 Registered: 02-2003 |
how about posting some pictures? | ||
| lance (Twyst10) New Member Username: Twyst10 Post Number: 16 Registered: 02-2003 |
http://www.jordanrover-tech.com.au/per_superchargers.php exactly the same, this is where it was bought. and my engine is in tip top shape, head job just done with special valve grind for super seating. new injectors, etc..... | ||
| Joey Cox (Joey_cox) New Member Username: Joey_cox Post Number: 5 Registered: 02-2003 |
Is the kit for a Series 1 or 2? | ||
| lance (Twyst10) New Member Username: Twyst10 Post Number: 17 Registered: 02-2003 |
88' to 03' / series 1 or 2 anyone else that has info for me would be great! | ||
| Roland Kutasi (Disco1) New Member Username: Disco1 Post Number: 16 Registered: 10-2002 |
The reason there are so many problems for supercharging to work properly is due to exactly what I said earlier, DO NOT TRY TO SET IT UP CHEAPLY! You do need to use Motec or else you will have a constant little problems. Another thing that I suggest is that you go and have a talk to a mechanic that specialises in supercharging, say a Hi Performance workshop, they will set you straight. BTW. I have had supercharging on my disco since 1996 and I love it. | ||
| jerry d quintana (Exjeeper) New Member Username: Exjeeper Post Number: 12 Registered: 02-2003 |
Try these guys. They are located here in co springs co and are a great shop will bend over backwards to help out. these are superchargers for jeeps but they might be able to help out. http://www.avengersuperchargers.com/index.htm | ||
| lance (Twyst10) New Member Username: Twyst10 Post Number: 20 Registered: 02-2003 |
see my new post, " i was wrong" it will explain everything |
