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lance (Twyst10)
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Post Number: 19
Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Thursday, February 20, 2003 - 04:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I was totally wrong, it came in the mail just a few min ago and it is a eaton m62 with mods from rimmer engineering...I guess the guy who bought it did all the invest. needed re: related problems with blowers for 4.0 LR's he even provided a NEW mod ECU that he was using.
his discription of the package is as follows
..Eaton Model 62 for 4.0L
Replacement Manifold by Clifford for equal pressures to all cylinders & better heat displacement, M62 Mounting hardware by Rimmer Throttle Body Relocation Mount by Rimmer, Longer Serpentine Belt and More!
All parts are polished Alloy (Everything you need to bolt the supercharger on in 2-4 hours is included - have fun, I did!

 

Peter Matusov (Pmatusov)
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Username: Pmatusov

Post Number: 491
Registered: 09-2002
Posted on Thursday, February 20, 2003 - 09:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Lance, M62 was used on 3.8L V6s in Buicks and T-Birds. IMHO it should have adequate "lung" capacity, but...
... i'd go for it.
 

Carl D. (Cdoug3)
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Post Number: 24
Registered: 01-2003
Posted on Friday, February 21, 2003 - 07:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

If you have everything there I would go for it. All for $450.00, that is incredible!
 

lance (Twyst10)
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Post Number: 21
Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Friday, February 21, 2003 - 10:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

It even has signed papers with it from Rick Rimmer himself... Totally custom set up, everything is mechined alum... I am really excited. There is a pic of my blower in "marques of distinction" the LR mag. This should sound great with my flow masters....
 

lance (Twyst10)
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Post Number: 22
Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Friday, February 21, 2003 - 12:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

the paper work and receipts from Rimmer engineering, inc. read as follows.... It is an eaton m62 supercharger, with a custom manifold, custom intake, custom EFI, knock sensor system that manages spark control, fuel management module that works independently of the car's computer, throttle by-pass system, 39% dyno'd additional HP, total invested from receipts was over $8k. 6lbs of boost,
 

Greg Davis (Gregdavis)
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Username: Gregdavis

Post Number: 658
Registered: 08-2002
Posted on Friday, February 21, 2003 - 12:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Lance, you don't want that grenade on your vehicle. You should sell it ASAP and recoup your money. If you decide to do that, PLEASE let me know!

I'm serious!
 

Leslie N. Bright (Leslie)
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Username: Leslie

Post Number: 1793
Registered: 02-2002
Posted on Friday, February 21, 2003 - 02:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Hmmm......

Rimmer, eh?

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=301074&highlight=Rimm er
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=238870&highlight=Rimm er
http://www.rs25.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=98375#post98375

Hmmmm..............


-L
 

lance (Twyst10)
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Username: Twyst10

Post Number: 25
Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Friday, February 21, 2003 - 02:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Greg, I have to say that I have watched your disco sence you started and I really think you have just about the cleanest disco's on here! your car is want motivated me to lift mine!!! and do all the upgrades (too many, but not as nice as yours) Nice Car!!!!!!x10... Next is, this supercharger is so trick Greg! You have no idea, all the problems with new chargers have been addressed already... It has been in use for a couple of yrs with absolutly no problem... or are you saying this so you can buy it???? lcowley@ffic.com just email me, dont have all day to keep checking the board
 

Blue (Bluegill)
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Post Number: 1919
Registered: 02-2002
Posted on Friday, February 21, 2003 - 02:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

quit typing and start installing!!!
 

lance (Twyst10)
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Username: Twyst10

Post Number: 26
Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Friday, February 21, 2003 - 02:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I just got it yesterday! blaaaaaa to mr blue! I am 24 with an awsome rover, I am excited! shame on me, bad lance! mind yo biz blue cause I am not talkin to you.... and to lislie, they are bankrupt but they werent in 1997 when it was made. any other haters out there, with your stock poop cars want to be rude to me? God find something better to do with you day. And to all of you that were helpful in my inquiry, THANK YOU!
 

Leslie N. Bright (Leslie)
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Username: Leslie

Post Number: 1794
Registered: 02-2002
Posted on Friday, February 21, 2003 - 02:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

lol..... Not a hater, not being rude, just ran across that and it threw up a little red flag in the back of my head.... Should work out well, I'd think, just work it through thoroughly, make sure that you install it well, etc.....

Good luck!

-L
 

lance (Twyst10)
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Post Number: 27
Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Friday, February 21, 2003 - 03:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Sorry -L- that blue just got under my skin for some reason? bad day so far at work I guess? and I would question that too... but like I said I am young and excited and have all of my extra money and time in to my LR & I cant stand anyone bringing me off my cloud. My work so far....
96' Disco
(custom Rimmer/Eaton supercharger, "installed next weekend just for you MR Blue" )
New Mod ECU
Flowmasters
Castor kit, for lift
HD springs
2" spacers RTE (all totals approx. 4 1/2" of lift)
33" tires
custom axle's
cardain(sp?) front driveline
u-joint rear driveline
rear fox shocks
Roof rack
12 million candle watt total, in extra lighting.
Bull style front bumper (custom made, not on the car yet, just finished & painted)
( currently building rear bumper, may get set back a bit due to the new toy)
1000 Watt amp, 15" phonix gold sub (this is just one of the many upgrades to the stereo, sounds unreal)
A snorkle that I have had for 2 yrs and have yet to install (probly wont now, due to the supercharger)????
And the list goes on.. and on..
 

thom mathie (Muskyman)
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Username: Muskyman

Post Number: 177
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Friday, February 21, 2003 - 10:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

add the snorkle...the cooler the air in the cooler the air out....and your gonna need it.

you may want to run a can of octane booster in every tank full.

allthough 6 lbs isnt much boost it is enough to cause severe damage to to motor , knock sensor or not get some bad gas and you may get a meltdown

In 97 I did a rimmer supercharger on a subaru for a friend and allthough the kit was very impressive on paper it turned out to be just a big mess and a beta version at best. after a number of issues and repeated attempts to correct problems the kit had to come back off the motor.

I'm not telling you your "kit" is going to cause you problems because I have never done one on a rover. but what I will tell you is that they where in line to supply factory backed dealer installed blowers for a number auto makers and it never panned out ...maybe for a reason?

good luck...either way good or bad...you'l have a blown motor:-)
 

Roland Kutasi (Disco1)
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Post Number: 17
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Saturday, February 22, 2003 - 06:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Some people just don't want to listen to good advice! As I said in an earlier post on this matter, the Eaton Supercharger will cause your motor to self destruct unless you intercool or use water injection amoung the other things I mentioned. I took my (Rimmer kit) off my disco and replaced it with a Vortech because of pinging (pre-detonation). I still have it sitting in my garage.
If you chose to take advice from people who have never fitted a supercharger, and you do it on the cheap, then you better carry a bucket with you. you have been warned.
 

Carl D. (Cdoug3)
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Username: Cdoug3

Post Number: 25
Registered: 01-2003
Posted on Saturday, February 22, 2003 - 10:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

the 6 lbs will effectively add another .5 to the compression ratio, making it roughly 10:1 It really depends on how the chip adjusts the fuel mapping and timing. I do not have experience with superchargers but I certainly do with Turbo chargers. The difference being the method of driving the compressor. I wouldn't run that super without either water injection or intercooler or both. You could probably get away with runnning it without them but I wouldn't test it at the expense of a new engine. I would not realy on octane booster, if anything add toluene to the gas when you first run the engine with the super. FYI I am running nearly 30 psi of boost on an audi 1.8 engine and I am getting more than double the stock power out of the car with no engine problems. I have extensive turbocharging experience which is somewhat more complex than super. Also as an Mech Eng. i understand the theory behind the process of charging the intake. I would like to help in anyway possible. my email crdouglass@earthlink.net Maybe i could help in someway.
 

James Moy (Jmoy97)
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Username: Jmoy97

Post Number: 3
Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Sunday, February 23, 2003 - 03:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I have fitted a Eaton M90 to my 97 disco. Only additional modification was having the ECU remmaped with a better tuned air/fuel mix. 96,000 mile since the install no pinging and no problems. I do run premium gas and occationally (about once a month) run a can of octane boost. I also run Redline synthetic oil with a K&N oil filter and air filter and also free flow cats and Borla exhaust, NGK Plugs and Magnacor wires. I have been on numerous off road trips in the middle of summer to Moab and did my 6th cross country trip this winter.
So contrary to Roland's comments no problems on my supercharged Discovery. But there is always a possibility of problems. Look at how many people have problems with non-supercharged disco's. I say if you want to do it just go ahead and do it. Yes there is a possibility of problems yet there could be a possibility of problems with a Vortech also. To each it's own. Roland I'm curious to see a Vortech on the Disco do you have any pictures? (Not a bash on you just never seen one before)

-Jim

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