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Author Message   Canyonman Posted on Monday, March 25, 2002 - 09:11 am:    You Disco guys are a joke. Every Disco owners conversation: "Duzint dose big tahres and haeuge lift make dat thang wheel bedder dan lil tahres and shaort shaoks?" All those accessories, and it's still a Discovery in the end! Buy a real four wheeler out of the box and quit being D90 wannabes.   Patrick Hartigan (Patrick) Posted on Monday, March 25, 2002 - 09:27 am:    Oh, grow up.   Michael Noe (Noee) Posted on Monday, March 25, 2002 - 09:29 am:    Jeez, give us a break, we're trying. If it wasn't for us, how would you guys ever get a laugh? Plus, D90 is just too easy, no challenge. What's the point if you don't have to work very hard to get where you're going? BTW, the D2 takes a lot grief on this board, and rightfully so, I guess. But they do develop a personality, it just takes 'em a little longer, that's all.   Scott MacGregor (Spm) Posted on Monday, March 25, 2002 - 09:39 am:    Sell me your D90 at an affordable price, and I will think about giving up my Disco. Meanwhile you might contemplate whether you should be thankful for your generous disposable income that allows you to have such a toy, and give more to charities (like poor Disco owners), or that you are spending way too much of your resources on a vehicle (like me).   Anonymous Posted on Monday, March 25, 2002 - 09:42 am:    A stock 90, which currently costs around $22,000, seems vastly more capable and much more reasonable than a $30,000 Disco with the $20,000 worth of mods necessary to keep up.   gp (Garrett) Posted on Monday, March 25, 2002 - 09:45 am:    i think for many of us the discovery just 'makes more sense'. just a much more versitile vehicle, especially for people like me with just one vehicle. i can take more than just one person and all our gear hiking/camping/biking. try that in a little D90. no doubt they are nice trucks......we know that mr. canyonman.....but for many of us they do many things well. your D90 on the other hand doesn't in my opinion. ps: go sling monkey shit somewhere else.   gp (Garrett) Posted on Monday, March 25, 2002 - 09:48 am:    $30K for a my discovery?? wow.....guess i just got a really good deal on mine. paid about half that. and for $20K in mods i could have more truck than i would ever want and still have money left over for you as my little cabana boy.   Jeff Bieler (Mrbieler) Posted on Monday, March 25, 2002 - 09:49 am:    Can we take Captain Fuck-Nuts thread to the "General Non-tech" section so it can get the attention it deserves?   Bill Bettridge (Billb) Posted on Monday, March 25, 2002 - 09:50 am:    Oh Christ - another wagon driver who wishes he had a Disco.......... Bill   Scott MacGregor (Spm) Posted on Monday, March 25, 2002 - 09:54 am:    Apples and oranges my friend. A new Disco compared to a 7 year old 90? Try comparing a vehicle of the same age and mileage and get back to us on cost. And utility, I already have a FJ40 for a toy truck, don't need two. I need something that is resonable for freeway, riders and storage, plus still a kick ass trail truck. Let us know what you would suggest in place of a Disco for that.   Eric N (Grnrvr) Posted on Monday, March 25, 2002 - 09:56 am:    I wanted a D90 and I still do. $22,000 not around here you can't (N. VA) unless you want a POS.. You can get the same year Disco for even less then $22,000.. I think that unless LR brings back the D90 with solid axels and a soft top I'm probably going to get a Jeep Rubicon as my second car or some thing small and fast.   Anonymous Posted on Monday, March 25, 2002 - 09:57 am:    I SUGGEST A NICE HO   Anonymous Posted on Monday, March 25, 2002 - 09:58 am:    Umm, GP - that would be Cabana GIRL to you and no - a few grand in foregone Disco parts couldn't buy me.   Leslie N. Bright (Leslie) Posted on Monday, March 25, 2002 - 09:59 am:    I've got a Series, and I love the critter... But take the wife, kids, and the newborn in a baby-seat, a weekend's worth of luggage, go drive 500 miles through a hard rainstorm, go wheelin' for a weekend, then drive back home.... can't do that in a D90.... And my Disco, when I bought it it was a year old, and cost less than a 6-year old D90.... -L   gil Posted on Monday, March 25, 2002 - 10:02 am:    hahaha.. Personally I just love the non-adjustable "school-busesque" driving position of those sweet sweet 90s. lol..yeah right! I also think its pretty funny that the majority of 90s that I see have nary a speck of dirt on the undercarriage nor a scratch on the paint. Granted they are ridiculously capable.. but its unfortunate that the majority of 90 drivers are pansys. talk about wannabes...   ken knebusch (Charlotterover) Posted on Monday, March 25, 2002 - 10:03 am:    That's exactly right Leslie, and let's not forget the two 60lb dogs to boot!   Scott MacGregor (Spm) Posted on Monday, March 25, 2002 - 10:10 am:    I'm having second thoughts. You're right, maybe I should ask that 30 something lady in my neighboorhood who drives the 90 with the glossy yellow paint and peace sign tire cover to sell to me for $20,000. That truck needs to be rescued!   Glenn Guinto (Glenn) Posted on Monday, March 25, 2002 - 10:19 am:    Try wheeling with 7 people on your little D90 Canyonman... And who mentioned anything about disco owners being D90 wannabes? - or is that just your stupid imagination caused by your stupid little brain? Have you seen the Moab Video? If I'm not mistaken, the biggest tire those trucks had was about 32" and they took all those trails you big fat tire crowds say impossible/impassable for our "little-tired-discos". Discoveries were made for a certain purpose and they do it very well, - as am sure D90's do as well. I certainly don't have any doubts of your D90's capabilities (like I do with you) but I sure don't see a reason for your bashing. -glenn 99Disco   Chris von C Posted on Monday, March 25, 2002 - 11:07 am:    That's pretty funny considering there is NOTHING a D90 can do that a similarly equipped Disco couldn't do and visa-versa. Where there is a will, there is a way. A few ignorant D90 owners have spouted that off here before but yet not a one of them can produce a single trail name or pictures that an equally equipped Disco cant or already has not run. Just because YOU cant drive a Disco doesnt mean that they can't do it. Chris von C www.gotmud.org www.d-90.com   Marc Posted on Monday, March 25, 2002 - 11:31 am:    Guys - Why even respond to this idiot? If he knew anything about Land Rovers in general, he would know that a Disco is a very cable offroad vehicle. The fact that he does not show he is the wannabe and a moron to boot. He is apparently conflicted because he overpaid for his rough rider and needs to put down our rides to compensate. Either that that or he has the proverbial small penis. Either way, I will say this, I have been out with a few D90's and I love them. I also followed them everywhere they went with no problem at all. Once I get my lockers installed, even less. All for less then $20K all told. BTW this kind of "Mine is bigger than yours" shit is what gives rover owners a bad name. It may be true, but unless you prove it and keep your mouth shut while doing so, you are a putz. -Marc   Kyle Posted on Monday, March 25, 2002 - 11:33 am:    The guys isnt an Idiot. The guy is a Fisherman. Looks like he scored...... Kyle   Leslie N. Bright (Leslie) Posted on Monday, March 25, 2002 - 11:44 am:    I know Kyle, but it's a Monday morning.... -L   Scott MacGregor (Spm) Posted on Monday, March 25, 2002 - 11:44 am:    At least he gave us a chance to remind ourselves why we love our Disco's!   Carl E. Cedeholm (Cederholm) Posted on Monday, March 25, 2002 - 11:52 am:    If it wasn't for the success of the Discovery, the Land Rover company might not even be around anymore. Like to see you find a $20,000 D90 if LR went under in 1989.   RVR OVR (Tom) Posted on Monday, March 25, 2002 - 12:04 pm:    Takes a fisherman to know a fisherman, eh, Kyle? Canyonman probably doesn't even have D90, but he does have a fun thread to say he started. D90 and Disco equally equipped, and the D90 will probably get you through the trails easier. But I don't think there is something that you could do in a D90 that you couldn't do in a Disco, again, equally equipped. You would just drag more stuff around on the Disco and maybe have an extra tick on hand to keep the roof off of a tree or rock. Talking price in such a comparison is a waste of time. We all waste lots of money for our sport. Just in varying degrees. Tom   Mosi Posted on Monday, March 25, 2002 - 12:04 pm:    If LR starts tossing some more Defenders state side, I think I will have to snatch up a used D90 for a garage mate for my DII. It would probably make the current used D90s about 30% or more cheaper if a flood of imports come in. http://www.britishpacific.com/whats_new.html   Kyle Posted on Monday, March 25, 2002 - 12:07 pm:    Well yes Tom , a little fishing can be very relaxing..... Kyle   RVR OVR (Tom) Posted on Monday, March 25, 2002 - 12:07 pm:    LOL. Tom   John Lee Posted on Monday, March 25, 2002 - 12:09 pm:    Some fish will bite anything.   RVR OVR (Tom) Posted on Monday, March 25, 2002 - 12:09 pm:    Well, a D90 with a factory 4.6. Drool. Although, I would drool equally for a Disco I with a factory 4.6. Tom   Anonymous Posted on Monday, March 25, 2002 - 12:37 pm:    I just drool, no reason needed...   Cletus Posted on Monday, March 25, 2002 - 12:38 pm:    To be perfectly honest wit chu all, my past experience seem to indicate that unless you have money to burn(I don't) the best trail rig is the one that you can buy relatively cheap(leaving out the 90) put a mild lift on, at least one locker, good tires, and add ample dose of "drive it like you stole it!" There is nothing I love more than to look at a well engineered rig with tons of money thrown at it in all the right places................EXCEPT of course, a thousand dollar beater being driven with a total lack of regard for any body damage incurred.. Call me a pussy, but if I went out in a $30k rig and rolled it down a ravine, I would not be having that much fun..... If I went out in a $10k rig and rolled it down a ravine, well, It would suck, but, not that bad. If I went out in a $4k rig and rolled it down a ravine, I just hope someone took some good pictures...... Thats my take......Redneck at heart   muskyman Posted on Monday, March 25, 2002 - 12:51 pm:    "Some fish will bite anything.but "   RVR OVR (Tom) Posted on Monday, March 25, 2002 - 01:51 pm:    Cletus, If the 30K rig gets rolled down the ravine and you are smart enough to have the right insurance, you get a new 30K rig. That is what smart people with 30K rigs do. Now, if all you can afford is a 4K rig and you roll that down the hill, presumeably unisured except for liability, you are out 4K. Also, if smashing into trees with utter disregard is 4-wheeling, count me out. Making it through unscathed takes far more skill and you have a lot more to be proud of. However, the smash through method is just another kind of fun, which I can understand. Just not my kind of fun. Tom   Cletus Posted on Monday, March 25, 2002 - 03:38 pm:    Tom, your point is well taken, however, How many times will your insurance carrier dole out 30k before you get the boot? Even if they don't dump you, believe you me, you will pay for that rig in premiums. Nothing is free. If I roll my $4k rig down a ravine, I winch it back on its feet, check the fluids, and start her back up. Drive it home, fix whats broke, repeat as needed. I have done it before, probably do it again. Smashing into trees is not my idea of fun either, however, there are times when it is not physicaly possible to complete a trail without some damage,no matter how 'careful' and 'skillful' you are. In those instances, I prefer to have a rig that will let me enjoy the outing without worrying about my $30k investment. I believe our difference in opinion has to do with one of two things, either you have considerably more disposable income than I, or your idea of a challenging trail is a little different than mine. Most likely the latter. Cletus   M. K. Watson (Lrover94) Posted on Monday, March 25, 2002 - 03:52 pm:    sounds like a xterra owner to me!   Cletus Posted on Monday, March 25, 2002 - 04:00 pm:    An xterra owner? What does that mean? Can you please make a point?   Eric N (Grnrvr) Posted on Monday, March 25, 2002 - 04:07 pm:    na, if it was an xterra owner they would have said that we all want a nissan "patrol".. Also, to add to the whole $4000 to $30000 bash through the woods debate.. It's all realitive to how much money you got.. If your making a mil a year then that $30000 Disco is a cheap ride.. It's all about what you consider expensive.. Some people look at a thousand bucks like it's a dollar. Me on the other hand.. Well I'm a poor person living in the ghetto and that dollar can get me lots of saltines and govment cheese for dinner   Leslie N. Bright (Leslie) Posted on Monday, March 25, 2002 - 04:08 pm:    Cletus, Haven't been on this board long, have ya? -L   Eric N (Grnrvr) Posted on Monday, March 25, 2002 - 04:10 pm:    Besides if the guy knew anything about rovers he would have said that we want the ultimate in off road fun the little 88 series with a diesel. Now that is what I call an off roading beast machine.   Kyle Posted on Monday, March 25, 2002 - 04:14 pm:    Well thats a Defender Eric..... He didnt mention what year.... Kyle   Eric N (Grnrvr) Posted on Monday, March 25, 2002 - 04:19 pm:    Not as far as I'm concerned it's not.. I know series 1, 2, 3 and all that but, I look at the new defenders (which I'm sure is what he was talking about) as a whole different animal.   M. K. Watson (Lrover94) Posted on Monday, March 25, 2002 - 04:51 pm:    hmmmm maybe he is a poser, or better yet his D90 is really a Radio Shack radio controled car. or maybe its really a hotwheels, dude, do you have the car wash hotwheels playcity accessory or do you just play in the sand box behind your house?   Cletus Posted on Monday, March 25, 2002 - 05:19 pm:    It seems that Eric was one of the few who got my point,"it's all relative to how much money you have" If I had a million to spare, I would buy a Defender and then put another 6g's into it for the purpose of going places that they didn't build roads. If that were the case I would still care if it got rolled, but it wouldn't adversely affect my ability to pay my mortgage and feed my family. While I don't have a million, I can afford a $6000 Discovery, put a couple grand into it, and have fun knowing that my hobby won't lead to my financial ruin..... I have seen alot of nice rigs on the trail and alot of beaters with good components, axles, engines, recovery gear,etc. I love them both, but in my mind to take something that costs 1/3 as much as my first house and bounce it off trees and rocks is frightening, based on my financial situation. Which is above average, but not rich by any means. I didn't start the thread, and I am not in any way bashing anyones truck....Cletus   RVR OVR (Tom) Posted on Monday, March 25, 2002 - 05:49 pm:    Cletus, I think we came out agreeing but seeming to disagree. I thought you were part of the ranks who thought all LR's were in the 30K range, as many who trot over to this board do. However, as you know, there are $6K Discovery's out there to be had and brought to the trail. The nice thing is that a $6K Discovery can look like a $30,000 rig if it is not beat to hell and was maintained correctly. So, on your plan to use a $6K Disco with a few grand of mods out on the trail, I say Amen, Brother. Welcome to Discoweb. Tom   Ho Chung (Ho) Posted on Monday, March 25, 2002 - 05:52 pm:    anyone here got d90 envy and will admit? cmon, it's ok, just say you got d90 envy.   Ron L Posted on Monday, March 25, 2002 - 05:54 pm:    Why Defender 90s Rule! Not to offend anybody here... But....Who gives a shit!?! :-)   Rob Davison (Pokerob) Posted on Monday, March 25, 2002 - 06:13 pm:    d110 envy. i admit that, not the little 90 though... rd   Simon E. Arenas (Simon) Posted on Monday, March 25, 2002 - 06:15 pm:    not to offend anybody but even if I could afford a D90 I would not buy it.. too many "alternative lifestyle" dudes own those here in the very deep throat south... i wouldn't want to be confused ya know.. hehehe Simon p.s. ""not that is anything wrong with it....."" disclaimer just in case...   M. K. Watson (Lrover94) Posted on Monday, March 25, 2002 - 07:12 pm:    i am with Rob, if i am giving up the space and overwhelming comfort then i want a D110 that D90 is a bit short for me. i need alot of room, i have lotsa of stuff to pack. and then there is my dog he is a bit spoiled and perfers the pack of the Disco over the cramp quarters of a D90. and that xterra is really cramp, come on it doesnt even really qualify as true SUV. anything that gets more than 15 mpg on gas (and not diesel) isnt a true off road oversized SUV. so anybody with more cash than brains who wants to trade me their 110 for my disco then call me if its a D90 well thanks anyways. hehehe   niall forbes (Forbesn) Posted on Monday, March 25, 2002 - 07:59 pm:    I thought about a 110. Not a 90 'cause they're too small. I don't know, just didn't float my boat. I still consider one and probably won't decide till I end up with on or with a Disco. I can afford one since I live in Canada and I can import a vehicle made before 1987. It just seems that for so long people have been saying "ooh, I wish I could have a 110", just sort of turns me off them. Around here there are no done up Discos. None. There are a number of Defenders and there will be more and more over the next few years. For me, this will be my only car. I just want something that will be as comfortable and easy to live with when I'm driving through traffic on my way to school as it will be capable on the trail. Maybe I'm just soft. I think I'd rather get a Disco and then build a 109 pick up than get a 110. Actually, I'd really like to build a lightweight 109 or a coilsprung 101. Who knows, maybe I'll regret it. But first I have to sell my current Rover. Niall Forbes 66 IIa 88SW - The Red Zit <--For Sale http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/forbes/forsale.htm   Mel A. Posted on Monday, March 25, 2002 - 08:49 pm:    One of my dad's friends let me drive his 1997 AA Yellow 90 for 1 week. At first, I thought the D-90 was the coolest thing since ketchup. But after having 3 days of monsoon like rain during my "test drive," the little 90 sent me on a cussing rage. The thing was leaking like crazy. The heater sucked ass. The wipers were medievil. Also, it just felt sluggish compared to my Disco. The seats were comfortable, but not as good as the Disco's. The ride was harsh and I really had to take those corners slow. Whenever I had people in the car, they would all hold on to the door with white knuckles whenever I turned. My biggest complain was the wind-noise as +35mph. Even with the stereo blasting, I couldn't hear a damn thing. But even after all that, I would still love to own a Defender. I know Land Rover didn't design the Defender to be a very "user friendly" car. It is a true 4-wheel drive vehicle that was in no way designed to be a luxury cruiser. (even though all the Defender owners I know are docters) If I wanted luxury with just about the same off-road ability, then the Disco would be the only choice. And that is what I have, and I am damn proud to own it.   Craig M. Highland (Shortbus) Posted on Monday, March 25, 2002 - 08:52 pm:    Envy this- Craig   Craig M. Highland (Shortbus) Posted on Monday, March 25, 2002 - 09:01 pm:    Slava? that you? Craig It's a wheelbase thing, you wouldn't understand...   E Snyder Posted on Monday, March 25, 2002 - 09:15 pm:    "A stock 90, which currently costs around $22,000, seems vastly more capable and much more reasonable than a $30,000 Disco with the $20,000 worth of mods necessary to keep up." HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA If I had a net of $50K in my Disco the sonofabitch could drive underwater, climb trees, you name it. I laughed at the first post, but this one killed me. I'll take on a stock D-90 ANY day of the week. I might have to do 15 point turns on the narrower trails, but...   John Lee Posted on Monday, March 25, 2002 - 10:32 pm:    OK, so if I these survey results at face value, nobody on Discoweb wants an XD and nobody here wants a D90 either?   JRoc Posted on Monday, March 25, 2002 - 10:38 pm:    I love D-90's I love my '95 Disco And I loved my '77 FJ-40 Land Rover makes great rigs!!! They all have compromises, but I love em! Finally, the only person I'm jealous of is the guy who's out wheelin while I'm on here Fuc*ing typing!!! And I don't give a shit if he's in a D-90, 110, Disco, or a Fuc*ing '77 FJ-40 who's gas in the tank is worth more than the rig!!! Just my HFO!   Leslie N. Bright (Leslie) Posted on Monday, March 25, 2002 - 10:40 pm:    John, I don't want an XD, I want a CT. I have an 88, I don't want a 90, I want a 110. Not a SW, but a HCPU. -L   John Lee Posted on Monday, March 25, 2002 - 10:46 pm:    Les, I suffer from serious NAS 110 envy as well. That's my dream machine by far. I wouldn't mind having a 127 Rapier Carrier or a 110 crew cab either. I also suffer from Disco XD envy (although not Ho's JYD XD). I just thought it was hilarious that so many people replied and to this thread and the color thread, and apparently not a single person here suffers from XD envy or D90 envy. Either the people here are singularly unique or they are not being truthful.   Jeff Bieler (Mrbieler) Posted on Monday, March 25, 2002 - 10:52 pm:    Same boat. I like the XD, but I'd rather take my SD and spend the $ difference on mods of my choice. As for the D90, I have the IIA. If I could get a D90 for the same money and the same condition as the Disco I have, we could talk. I haven't seen a D90 do anything a comparably equipped Disco couldn't do. I like 'em both, but I wouldn't call it envy. But don't worry, there will always be a place in my heart for Chickadee and the Milk Truck. ;-)   John Lee Posted on Monday, March 25, 2002 - 11:00 pm:    Jeff, Well, whenever I hear about XD envy or D90 envy or lack thereof, I always hear the same arguments about being able to get the same performance level for a cheaper price, etc. I don't buy that. For one thing, if you're going on budget, get a Jeep or something. You can get double the trail capability for the same price if you buy a Jeep. Gears are like $100 for a Jeep. Second of all, envy is something that goes beyond mere budgets. I envy lots of things I know I could never afford or obtain. I envy the 110 crew cab and 127 Rapier Hauler, but I know I could never really get those in this country without serious $$$$. So these "I can get the same performance for less money arguments" don't really do it for me. And you mean to tell me you haven't seen me smoke Ho on the trails? On second that, that's probably true. Ho never even wheels any more, so how could I smoke him on the trails? He'd actually have to wheel to get smoked. He's the virtual offroader now.   Jeff Bieler (Mrbieler) Posted on Monday, March 25, 2002 - 11:17 pm:    John, I think the driver gets you further then the truck. I remember a hill at Pismo a certain D90 with lockers and gears couldn't tackle. I've also seen, and love Ho's story, about little Suzuki's that kick everyones ass. I like the XD, but a lot of what it comes with (and you pay for) gets chucked and that irritates me. I would like a CT. As for the D90, the $ is just wrong. Off road wise, sometimes I like the extra wheel base, 100". To get me interested in a D90, I would like a ex-MOD 2.5 diesel. NADA D90's are just shortened Disco's without the soundproofing. ;-)   John Lee Posted on Monday, March 25, 2002 - 11:31 pm:    Jeff, Are you talking about one dune I couldn't make after three tries and had to drive around when even the stockers (true stockers, not stealth stockers) made it up on the first try? Sorry, I have no recollection of that dune at all. Man, you're too caught up in cost and budgets and such. Dream a little. I enjoy dreaming about something almost as much as owning it.   Leslie N. Bright (Leslie) Posted on Monday, March 25, 2002 - 11:37 pm:    Dream? Pink Panther CT vehicles (Disco & 110) '48 SI '49 Tickford The Antichrist 110 pickup 130 crewcab Disco Cabriolet Freelander (for a commuter) -L   Jeff Bieler (Mrbieler) Posted on Monday, March 25, 2002 - 11:42 pm:    I do dream, but I guess I'm too practical sometimes (though practical and owning a Series truck seems like an oxymoron at times...). I guess I'm not into that. I don't want fast cars, or sexy rifles, or ultimate off roaders. I just like things that work. I will agree that I would "ohh" and "ahh" and "I want to have it" over a real CT truck and a military D90. It is hard to get me to agree to part with my $ sometimes. I have to be extremely motivated. Lisa would wish that I was a bit less motivated about Puddles sometimes....   niall forbes (Forbesn) Posted on Monday, March 25, 2002 - 11:46 pm:    I really don't know what the XD comes with vs a regular Disco. It seems to me it's mostly trim but I really have no idea. I don't really know why John has such a hard-on for them just because they're yellow and have some accessories. Sure they look cool, but I'd rather spend less and build up my own truck rather than have someone else do it. Don't get me wrong, I don't dislike them. I'd say I'm more neutral, I just wouldn't really care one way or the other. I don't think they're this amazing truck that everyone should be fighting over. As for a 90, sure if someone was going to give me one I'd take it, but I'd probably sell it too. They're too damn small and are not as superior off-road as most people seem to think. They are probably the most capable LR off-road from the factory, but I don't think the margin between the models is really that large. I certainly have not seen a huge difference on the trials that I've been on. It all comes down to how you use your truck and what you want/need from a vehicle. For me, a two person truck is not very practical or desirable. I don't know about the other DWeb members, but my Rover gets used on the road most of the time. Only on weekends can it usually get dirty. To base the purchase decision of my only vehicle on what it will be doing maybe 5-10% of the time would be foolish. And in the end, it's just a truck regardless of which model you have. Driver skill and experience is 90% of the game. My friend John Cranfield could smoke me on any trail in his stock Cherokee if I was driving a locked Ibex. Niall Forbes 66 IIa 88SW - The Red Zit <--For Sale http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/forbes/forsale.htm   Rob Davison (Pokerob) Posted on Tuesday, March 26, 2002 - 12:06 am:    john, whats this about you "smoking ho" along the trail??? damn, good for you guys for coming out. as for xd envy, hmm... i used to want it, but i much rather prefer the stealthy white. i can't explain it, except to say it just looks right. now a real camel trophy disco i'll take. d-90, yeah, i had that envy... then i drove your truck and , well.... hehe it's all gone now. ;) rd   John Kruger (Johnnyk) Posted on Tuesday, March 26, 2002 - 09:58 am:    You are all 'yellow' with envy. Besides the yellow paint, much of the XD gets tossed out the window when you build it up, just like the stock items from other Disco's. In my experience, white and yellow hide scratches the best. I like all Defenders, but the Disco works for me. I do envy anyone out wheeling today while I sit behind a desk, I don't care what they are driving or rolling down the hill. At least they are out and about.....   Eric N (Grnrvr) Posted on Tuesday, March 26, 2002 - 11:31 am:    I actually like the orange color better then the yellow of the XD.. I wouldn't want either of them though.. I just don't like it.. I like my Coniston Green.. I do like the D-90s and I do want one but, not as an every day driver.. But, I don't envy the D-90.. I saw a sweet Series yesterday though with VA plates MUD HNTR or some thing like that.. I liked it, I liked it a lot..   dmenasco Posted on Tuesday, March 26, 2002 - 11:44 am:    List I've got a question here about the D90 and the Disco. While both are great rigs I was wondering why there isn't a Disco/D90 "Twist-Off" event or something similar? I mean, there was the TO last year and when it came time vote I was disappointed that no Disco's had entered. Is this becasue they were excluded and it was to be a D90 event only or did no one enter? Are there any plans for such an event? I've finally got the time to make the Mecca to watch such an event and I don't think it's going to happen this year, at least I haven't heard anything about it. Anyone know, I'd be really interested in going. Regards DJ   Simon E. Arenas (Simon) Posted on Tuesday, March 26, 2002 - 11:49 am:    I have to admit... d90 is not my thing.. but 110 are a dream... but in white! Simon.   John Lee Posted on Tuesday, March 26, 2002 - 12:21 pm:    DJ, There was a D2 entered in the last TO, but the guy backed out at the last second. I think it was Ed Maggofin or Bill Ritchie who stepped in at the last minute to fill in.   dmenasco Posted on Tuesday, March 26, 2002 - 12:38 pm:    Oh, well that's too bad. I want to see a Disco go for it! Do you know if there will be another TO this year? DJ   John Lee Posted on Tuesday, March 26, 2002 - 12:43 pm:    No, there won't be. Stuff like that has to be planned several months in advance. Rachel Burke posted on the D90 list that if anyone wanted a 2002 TO, to say so. Nobody spoke up.   dmenasco Posted on Tuesday, March 26, 2002 - 12:47 pm:    I see. Well, that's too bad. Where is Brian Bonner when you need him eh? DJ   John Lee Posted on Tuesday, March 26, 2002 - 01:15 pm:    Actually, he spoke up about it, but well after the fact. There was some talk between Brian Bonner and Adam Way about holding their own TO in the Southwest, but it was only talk.   Anonymous Posted on Wednesday, March 27, 2002 - 03:08 pm:    FWIW, CanyoneroMan has an SII (that's a REAL series kids) and a 110 as well...   Jeff Bieler (Mrbieler) Posted on Wednesday, March 27, 2002 - 03:16 pm:    Holy shit! That makes him a man among men! And a 110? I'd blow him!   KJ Posted on Thursday, March 28, 2002 - 12:02 am:    Gee Jeff.....maybe it's just me, but that sounds kinda....gay. Did you mean to say you'd go bowling with him? Karen   Jeff Bieler (Mrbieler) Posted on Thursday, March 28, 2002 - 01:03 am:    LOL. Perhaps, but not "Liberachi Gay" I hope...   Kyle Posted on Thursday, March 28, 2002 - 08:48 am:    Jeff , I can see how you would be totaly in Awe on Cayonman's verility. I mean , god damn , he has a "Real series" and he gave himself such a cute little name... "CANYONMAN to the rescue". Kyle   Jeff Bieler (Mrbieler) Posted on Thursday, March 28, 2002 - 08:59 am:    Well damn Kyle, he's got a real Series. Probably with real tires and shit too! And have you see the test required to own a 110? Man, I know I can't write checks that big. I bet he spits fire and shoots broken glass out of his ass to boot. I can only stand back in awe and dream. ;-)   KJ Posted on Thursday, March 28, 2002 - 09:12 am:    Jeff, There was an "ass" reference in your last post. You're really starting to worry me.... Karen ;)   Jeff Bieler (Mrbieler) Posted on Thursday, March 28, 2002 - 09:21 am:    Worried? You should be down right scared. I know I am!   James F. Thompson Jaime (Blueboy) Posted on Thursday, March 28, 2002 - 09:36 am:    Don't know about the Yellow Envy deal, however, after owning a few Rovers, I have my opinion (just like everyone has an asshole) on them. Had a slightly modified 95D90SW and a stock 96Disco(RHD) at the same time. The D90 would more easily go where you wanted without too much worry about it. The Disco would go on similiar stuff and you had to pay a little more attention to what you were doing. The big difference for me was being able to pile in the Labs, camping stuff, etc. in the Disco without any problems and having to be a pack meister to do the same in the D90. Let alone the difference in driving any fairly long distance. Yeah, it can be done and I took some longer trips in the 90, but, the Disco was a lot better. Now have a hybrid 109 which basically is a 110 in sheeps clothing. Very capable and holds tons of stuff. Yet, the Disco even in stock form, still is my favorite of the the three Rovers. Slightly modified like some of the Discos on this site, an even better pick. My favorite Rover at the moment is our RR. Similiar to the Disco, yet, as a LWB more room in the rear for the Labs on long trips. So, D90 envy - not really, although they are nice; I'd take a Disco in a moment if I could have just one. Again, just like assholes, everyone has one and this opinion is mine. Regards, Jaime   Ho Chung (Ho) Posted on Thursday, March 28, 2002 - 10:40 am:    Karen, some of us here have no doubt about our sexuality. although... i am told i must drink some guiness shit to show i am man. LOL   Jeff Bieler (Mrbieler) Posted on Thursday, March 28, 2002 - 10:49 am:    Yeah. I don't worry about proving myself to anyone these days. I'm looking at a picture of my son right now. I know my junk works... ;-)   Rob Davison (Pokerob) Posted on Thursday, March 28, 2002 - 12:35 pm:    jaime, i told you i'd swap you my trick disco for your 25 year old truck right there on the spot. hell, i'll even deliver my disco out to OK if you still want a disco that bad... let me know, ehehehe rd   James F. Thompson Jaime (Blueboy) Posted on Thursday, March 28, 2002 - 12:52 pm:    Rob, Thanks for the offer as I did really like your Disco which I gather you haven't sold yet, but, I'll hang on to the ones we got now. Besides it is 35 years old this year (1967) and it is dirt cheap to liscense/insure in OK. Getting it titled was quite the trip, yet, we did finally get it legal. Have cranked up the miles now to 5,000 due to a quick trip to PA last year for hauling back stuff from the barn. Do hope you do get an opportunity to stop by if you get out this way. We're out to Taos this May for my birthday (don't ask), but other than that, will be in OK on the weekends. You know the routine during the week. Jaime   Lawrence Tilly (L_Tilly) Posted on Thursday, March 28, 2002 - 07:42 pm:    Ok, I'm late to this thread (too much actual "work" at work to keep up with DWeb lately), but my envy input: 110 w/ Zebra paint (sorry, just gotta be done) 101 Forward Controler for a camper conversion project Other than those, I'm happy w/ my Disco. L_Tilly lnctilly@attbi.com 96 Disco "Beowulf" NH, USA   Kim S (Roverine) Posted on Thursday, March 28, 2002 - 08:44 pm:    hell yes i would love a D90 ... would i give up my disco? noooooooo, i bought it for exactly the purpose it is used for: a daily driver that i can haul people & a lot of *stuff* in, go on long trips in comfort, and kick some butt offroad. i would also love to have a new G Wagon. (however, i would have to win the lottery so i wouldn't be afraid to hurt it offroad, lol) i would also love a great big house on a hill overlooking the ocean ... with a maid, make that a butler, maybe two butlers ... um let's see, ... world peace. oh hell, this list could go on forever. i'm happy with what i've got. (but it's good to dream and strive for those dreams, LOL) Kim   Kim S (Roverine) Posted on Thursday, March 28, 2002 - 09:19 pm:    oh i forgot to add to my dream list: ... .....the butlers would have to be very good mechanics (with nice butts, and handsome, too, LOL) Kim hey! i can dream ...   Jeff Bieler (Mrbieler) Posted on Friday, March 29, 2002 - 09:01 am:    Oh don't be so elitist Kim. I've seen you drink American beer!   Ron Posted on Friday, March 29, 2002 - 05:59 pm:    You all know you want a series I. I do. something like a 109 PU with the 2L diesel or an early behind the grill headlights 80in. Of course it would have to be garbage. Ron   Jess Brandt Posted on Sunday, March 31, 2002 - 09:55 am:    I just got a '95 disco for $9000 and its in perfect condition and has only 78k on it... i love discos, they are better on the road then a d90...and when you take them off road they can kick some butt...also, ever seen camel trophy, how often did they use a 110 over a 90, or disco over a d90... i am a fairly new land rover enthusiast, as far as technical goes...i am only 16 and thought that the disco and d90 shared quite a few parts, engine...trans...i would like some help figuring this one out though...lil' help! jess e-mail me   Sean H Posted on Sunday, March 31, 2002 - 02:02 pm:    Just got back from a long trip to Baltimore and a short trip to Fruita,CO. I was excitited to see what was going on on the D-web. Then I stumbled onto this thread and I'm no longer excited. Whoever the idiot was who posted this managed to out a bunch of folks who seem a bit insecure about their vehichle of choice. The sad part is they are both awsome vehichles in their own right and both have some major short commings. I have had the pleasure and the anguish of owning both and can tell you I am thrilled with my D90. The catch is this I like to spend my time driving/wheeling it rather than explainig to Disco/Rangie/Series owners why I think my vehichle is better. You don't have to be a doctor to own a Defender and you don't have to spend $30,000 for a Disco. Be proud of what you chose, shut up and drive!   Phillip Perkinson (R0ver4x4) Posted on Sunday, March 31, 2002 - 02:04 pm:    10-4...I love all ROver 1998-1948 after that I think things are going down the poop chute..o well   Leslie N. Bright (Leslie) Posted on Sunday, March 31, 2002 - 10:53 pm:    Ron, I agree w/ the 80" headlights-behind-the-grill.... I'd love to have one of those too. I would also like a Tickford, but that'd be even more rare to find. But, a pinkie would be high in the running on my list, hard to say between it and a '48.... 'Course, a CT Disco or a CT 110 would be way up on the list, too.... 130 crew-cab, 110 pick-up, a Freeloader for the wife... I really just want my own Rover fleet.... -L