| Author | Message | ||
     CJ SZPILA (Crash05) Member Username: Crash05 Post Number: 74 Registered: 11-2002 |
Can anyone give my an exact list and some direction how to extend my axel breathers. Thanks | ||
| Paul T. Schram (Paulschram) Senior Member Username: Paulschram Post Number: 1034 Registered: 02-2002 |
1/4" double female press-on compression fittings, one for each thing you wish to vent. A couple of feet of air brake tubing to extend the lines. Go to a semi-truck parts shop (truckpro is a good one), tell them you need a handful of air line splicers (the push-on compression fittings), and a few feet of air line. You'll be all set. Paul | ||
| Jon Bowers (Jonbowers7) New Member Username: Jonbowers7 Post Number: 25 Registered: 07-2002 |
Atlantic British also sells the whole kit for I think it was 39.00, fittings. hoses,etc... FYI | ||
| Paul T. Schram (Paulschram) Senior Member Username: Paulschram Post Number: 1039 Registered: 02-2002 |
I might have spent $5.00 extending mine. Two compression fittings, ten feet of tubing, and easy installation. Maybe some cable ties. | ||
| Greg French (Gregfrench) Member Username: Gregfrench Post Number: 217 Registered: 11-2002 |
Is this a necessary mod? | ||
| M. K. Watson (Lrover94) Senior Member Username: Lrover94 Post Number: 700 Registered: 02-2002 |
if you live in the Sahara, no! anywhere else its worth it! my .02 cents worth. mike w | ||
| Greg French (Gregfrench) Member Username: Gregfrench Post Number: 218 Registered: 11-2002 |
Explain it to me. Here is my understanding...Axel needs to be vented, but the hole isn't high enough for any water crossings so the have to be extended. Is that about it? | ||
| Paul Clawson (Pnut) New Member Username: Pnut Post Number: 18 Registered: 02-2003 |
The dealer is having to replace both of my rear axles, brakes due to a clogged breather. This is the third time its been done on mine. If it can be modified and/or improved its worth it. | ||
| Paul Clawson (Pnut) New Member Username: Pnut Post Number: 19 Registered: 02-2003 |
If my rear axle develops another leak, I will be parting ways with it. As much as I hate the thought of driving an Xterra or something else, I won't have a choice. Its getting expensive. | ||
| Rob Davison (Nosivad_bor) Senior member Username: Nosivad_bor Post Number: 66 Registered: 02-2003 |
paul, just let it leak... rd | ||
| Paul T. Schram (Paulschram) Senior Member Username: Paulschram Post Number: 1041 Registered: 02-2002 |
My god, replacing entire axles due to a clogged breather? Something else is wrong! Why on earth would you need to replace the axles due to a clogged breather? I have had seals fail (bent axle housing?) and water enter the housing, but it has never been anything a dump and flush wouldn't fix (and a new hub seal). Paul | ||
| Peter Carey (Pcarey) Senior Member Username: Pcarey Post Number: 483 Registered: 05-2002 |
Just because it's not high where you live, doesn't mean it's not high out here. You get stuck, and the water starts piling up. http://www.pazoodle.com/2-1-03/crw_9445_std.jpg pwc | ||
| Dean Brown (Deanbrown3d) Senior Member Username: Deanbrown3d Post Number: 495 Registered: 02-2002 |
CJ On the disco 2 at least, the stock breathers have been adequate for even the water crossing I've been through. The back one exits into a bubble air-trap, and the fronts are high up near the windscreen wipers (just below). So unless you are in over the hood, then you won't have a problem. More important is the seal where the breather line enters the axel. This was loose on mine, so I sealed it up with silicone sealant and its been fine since. I recommend this quick job for all rover owners, since its very easy to get over the axels in water. Check your diff / transsssmision oils and make sure they are not milky, if you're unsure. Dean | ||
| Paul T. Schram (Paulschram) Senior Member Username: Paulschram Post Number: 1042 Registered: 02-2002 |
My fears of injuring the entry to the diff is my main reason for advocating the practice of extending the existing breathers, rather than removing the factory fittings and replacing with new fittings that are more robust. Granted, the hydraulic pressure exerted against these fittings is tiny, I don't wish to take the chance of not getting the fittings tight and having a leak. As for checking the diff lubes, if you're gonna go to the trouble of inspecting, why not renew it as well? You're already most of the way there. Paul | ||
| Dean Brown (Deanbrown3d) Senior Member Username: Deanbrown3d Post Number: 498 Registered: 02-2002 |
Paul, 1. Breather extensions just extend the lines. No need to remove the pipe going into the axel. 2. Also, what hydraulic pressure are you talking about? 3. What I was saying above was just putting a little silicone around the outside of where the tube enters the axel. The existing fittings already leaked LOL! 4. I don't know about you, but I used fully synthetic oil in the diffs, and there is just no reason at all to replace it unless its either old or wet. I just put a clear plastic tube into the filler plug, and suck a little out. Its either cloudy, or crystal clear. Its a 2 minute test! Dean | ||
| Paul T. Schram (Paulschram) Senior Member Username: Paulschram Post Number: 1043 Registered: 02-2002 |
Dean: The kits that AB sells require you to remove the factory breathers and replace with their fittings. Hence my approach to extending them. While the fittings AB provides are far superior to the factory parts, I don't want to mess with them if I don't have to. Hydraulic pressure generated when one submerges a body into water. The pressure exerted against that body when submerged. While this can be calculated, in most cases, it is miniscule, but it is why we have water ingress into our cavities. If it leaks, silicone around the outside won't help. I do not use synthetic fluids in my diffs, nor my crankcase as I drain and refill them far too often to make sense for me. If it takes you two minutes to test it, how much longer could it possibly take to drain and refill? When Rovers are brought to me for work, I flush and fill the diffs and swivels as a complimentary service. It's cheap and the vast majority of owners don't know about swivel oils, along with too many supposedly knowledgeable shops. By buying my lubricants in larger containers, I pay far less than if I were shopping at Wal-Mart. Paul | ||
| Jaime (Blueboy) Senior Member Username: Blueboy Post Number: 540 Registered: 02-2002 |
hey Paul, do happen to have a pic of this fitting per chance?? Jaime | ||
| Paul Clawson (Pnut) New Member Username: Pnut Post Number: 23 Registered: 02-2003 |
Paul: Sorry for the confusion. They are not replacing the entire axle, just the hub seals on each side as well as the brake pads which are soaked through. supposedly the leakis due to the axle vent being clogged which leads to pressure build-up which leads to a coating of synthetic lube all over the rotors and pads. Thank God the repair will be covered under the parts warranty where the same repair was done on 01/17/03. yeah! I get to sit in LR Cape Fear for the better part of four hours  | ||
| Dean Brown (Deanbrown3d) Senior Member Username: Deanbrown3d Post Number: 500 Registered: 02-2002 |
Paul the place where mine leaked was where the plastic tube entered the axel housing. There was a red clip that didn't seem to be doing much except rattling around, so I just siliconed the whole joint from the outside. I don't doubt that your AB solution is going to be better, but I would personally just attach a tight-fitting piece of tubing onto the ends of the existing tubes, and route them into the air box or snorkel. Seems too much of a PITA to undo all the routed tubes and re-route them. The tube doesn't have to hold up to much pressure. Dean | ||
| CJ SZPILA (Crash05) Member Username: Crash05 Post Number: 75 Registered: 11-2002 |
Paul if you have a picture I would love to see the finished product. | ||
| Paul T. Schram (Paulschram) Senior Member Username: Paulschram Post Number: 1046 Registered: 02-2002 |
http://www.alkoncorp.com/html/push-in_tube_fittings_1.html Has pictures of similar fittings. I don't have a digi-camera handy. If it were easier for me to take digital pics and actually extract them, I would do so. Paul | ||
| Jaime (Blueboy) Senior Member Username: Blueboy Post Number: 542 Registered: 02-2002 |
thanks Paul. it gets me going in the right direction. Jaime |
