| Author | Message | ||
     John Friederich (Jfriedlvcmcom) New Member Username: Jfriedlvcmcom Post Number: 1 Registered: 02-2003 |
Well, guess what - it leans more in turns, and as I expected, is now prone to oversteer on-road. I expect the handling on-road will become more neutral if I 'experimentally' remove the rear bar as well. Notice, I said I removed the bar, didn't just disconnect it. So, I'm trying it for 'a few weeks' (told the wife to take it easy around corners if she drives it around town, although with 4 other cars it doesn't see much on-road travel). It does seem to have regained some suspension travel I though it had lost after the install of the OME HD's and shocks. I need to put more miles both on and off road before making a final decision... John F | ||
| Carter Simcoe (Carter) Senior member Username: Carter Post Number: 1917 Registered: 04-2002 |
uhhh, thanks?? | ||
| Chris Marcel (Gumarcel) Member Username: Gumarcel Post Number: 93 Registered: 11-2002 |
hahaha | ||
| John Friederich (Jfriedlvcmcom) New Member Username: Jfriedlvcmcom Post Number: 2 Registered: 02-2003 |
Sure, make fun of the handicapped... Guess what I was trying to say is I like the feel so far without the front sway bar... jsf | ||
| Chris Marcel (Gumarcel) Member Username: Gumarcel Post Number: 95 Registered: 11-2002 |
handicapped? | ||
| RJ Clayton (Tozovr) Senior Member Username: Tozovr Post Number: 308 Registered: 09-2002 |
why in the world would you just remove the front instead of the rear? Many vehicles come with just a front...this would seem like a more logical step to start with... | ||
| Dean Brown (Deanbrown3d) Senior Member Username: Deanbrown3d Post Number: 497 Registered: 02-2002 |
John I took both mine off (D2) 1.5 years ago and they never went back on. Apart from being a PITA to put them back, you'de better get a nice set of shocks to improve your ride instead. Dean | ||
| Milan (Milan) Member Username: Milan Post Number: 137 Registered: 10-2002 |
RJ, Typically the front is thicker and is sometimes sufficient to control lean, especially on rear leaf sprung vehicles. JF, If you had removed just the rear, I bet you'd have even more oversteer. I believe for on-road they should be left in. I will disconnect my sway bars for off-road and I can drive it on-road but I don't like it. It's not my driving that worries me but what if I have to make an emergency manouver. But I guess this could be the same argument for disconnecting the ABS. But as an experiment I think it's good to find out the differences. | ||
| EricV (Bender2033) Member Username: Bender2033 Post Number: 139 Registered: 08-2002 |
Not to poo-poo your experiment but I think I recall a post on one of the Jeep boards where a guy had an accident on the highway and the insurance company denied his claim because he had removed his sway bars. You might want to build/buy some quick disconnects to avoid any liability issues. | ||
| John Friederich (Jfriedlvcmcom) New Member Username: Jfriedlvcmcom Post Number: 3 Registered: 02-2003 |
Well, thanks to see a couple of replies that were not of immature nature. I did this, as the heading said, as a test. That being said, I'm putting the front sway bar back on for exactly the reason stated (liability in an accident). I do drive far more off road than on, but I think a set of disconnects are in the future. Thanks, jsf | ||
| traveltoad (Traveltoad) New Member Username: Traveltoad Post Number: 10 Registered: 11-2002 |
Have you tested articulation? How much more did you get with the sway bar removed? | ||
| John Friederich (Jfriedlvcmcom) New Member Username: Jfriedlvcmcom Post Number: 4 Registered: 02-2003 |
I did test articulation, but not in a scientific way. I think a ramp and an inclinometer to measure body lean would be needed to do this. The whole purpose of a anti-sway bar is to restrict the opposite movement of the axle in a vertical plane, and this cannot be good for off-road driving, where you want free up-down movement of one side of the axle relative to the other side. I did drive up on a ramp, and eyeballed the lean of the body. Definately more body lean resulted with the sway bar on, noticable when lining up the body to a nearby power line. I've read the thread about the homemade disconnect, but would rather spend the money for one with great ease of use (both connecting and disconnecting.) Any recommendations for a D2? Thanks. -John F | ||
| RJ Clayton (Tozovr) Senior Member Username: Tozovr Post Number: 310 Registered: 09-2002 |
I have some pics of my XJ on the RTi Ramp connected and disconnected if anyone is interested...Not a disco, but a decent example... | ||
| John Friederich (Jfriedlvcmcom) New Member Username: Jfriedlvcmcom Post Number: 5 Registered: 02-2003 |
A link to the pics, please? jsf | ||
| RJ Clayton (Tozovr) Senior Member Username: Tozovr Post Number: 311 Registered: 09-2002 |
Sway Bar Connected Sway bar disconnected No rear bar on the truck and a full OME kit with a 1" coil spacer up front. This was 2 suspensions ago, but the truck Flexed amazingly well and drove GREAT. More pics here in the Ramp album Oh, forward it was 832 (514 connected)and in reverse it was 861 on a 20* ramp. RJ |
