| Author | Message | ||
     James (Jimmyg) Member Username: Jimmyg Post Number: 129 Registered: 10-2002 |
There is a stream ford about 3 miles from my home. Typically it is just over a foot deep and 35 feet wide. With all the snow here in Va and recent rain, I decided to test out the snorkle at 2am. I put it in low and started in. The water looked like it was about 2 feet deep with a fast current. I quickly found out that the ford was now about 65 feet wide and a shit load deeper. When I realized it was too late to back up I decided to go for it. Well, dumb idea because before I new it, the front end dropped into water well over the front hood and started coming in the open windows. My lights were so far under the water that they were no good. Water was about 3 inches up the windscreen. As I preceeded to soil my pants and go deaf from my girlfriend screeming, I locked my rear diff and floored it. The truck actually pulled through to the other side! I got out and checked the air filter to make sure it was dry and that the snorkle didn't leak. All was good so the kid in me decided to turn around and cross it again to make it home. This time it stalled half way through. I had to carry my girlfriend through 4.5 feet of freezing fast moving water. I went back and connected two two straps together to my Fr. ARB and hiked home. We got her Fj-62 and eventually pulled my Disco out and home. Last night it would still turn over but not start. This morning it won't turn over. I'm going to let it dry completely before I try again, but I'm sure there is NO water in the engine. The snorkle is sealed well and the filter is dry. Besides my ECU and electrical stuff under the hood, what should I be worried about? By the way, it's a 95 D1 with 3 inches of lift. | ||
| Sean Hanagan (Seanh) Member Username: Seanh Post Number: 203 Registered: 05-2002 |
"What should I be worried about?" Your common sense, That would have been a great story if you had just walked away after making it through  .If you do a search in the archives I'm sure you will find what you need with regard to your drying out. | ||
| Eric Pena (Evalp) Senior Member Username: Evalp Post Number: 407 Registered: 06-2002 |
Man, to bad you don't have pics!! | ||
| Brian Friend (Brianfriend) Senior Member Username: Brianfriend Post Number: 431 Registered: 09-2002 |
James, Right on...I am sure that if I had gotten through it once I would have tried it again too. Common sence just slows you down. Chances are that once every thing drys out it will be fine but I would definatly change all the fluids. You will probably get a check engine light also after you get it running again but it will probably go out on it's own. If you want to speed up the drying process disconect your electrical stuff and spray the connectors with wd40 or carb cleaner. I would definatly try to make sure everything is good and dry befor trying to start it again. Keep up the good work brian | ||
| Rob Davison (Nosivad_bor) Senior member Username: Nosivad_bor Post Number: 60 Registered: 02-2003 |
i would do a trans oil change right there on the side of the stream (catch the oil and dont be a dick and let it drain on the ground). if it was hot and you drove in and it sucked up some water i would not chance it, the trans rebuilds are $$$$ rd | ||
| James (Jimmyg) Member Username: Jimmyg Post Number: 130 Registered: 10-2002 |
I've sprayed everything with WD-40. I will be changing every fluid like I always do. Will the ECU dry out on it's own? That's the only thing that I'm worried about now. All my lights work, CD player too somehow, and check engine light just reads 44 which is bad O2 sensor. What's the first sign the the ECU is fried? | ||
| Michael Noe (Noee) Senior Member Username: Noee Post Number: 463 Registered: 03-2002 |
If it's any consolation, I did the same thing over here at Buck Mtn ford, screaming girlfriend and all. Of course, it was in the afternoon and once I got through, I decided not to test my luck and went home the back way. Water only got up to the bottom of the windows. Scroll to the bottom to see buck mtn ford flooded. Snow & Flood pics | ||
| Brian Friend (Brianfriend) Senior Member Username: Brianfriend Post Number: 433 Registered: 09-2002 |
Hey Michael....that cat does not look properly beat. | ||
| Grant Lawson (Grant) New Member Username: Grant Post Number: 27 Registered: 01-2003 |
2am?How much booze was involved ?ha | ||
| James (Jimmyg) Member Username: Jimmyg Post Number: 131 Registered: 10-2002 |
Liquid courage turned into liquid stupidity! It did help in the freezing water though. I work in the restaurant business so no more than normal. | ||
| Alex Cabrera (Alexcabrera) Member Username: Alexcabrera Post Number: 86 Registered: 12-2002 |
Dude.. you rule!!! At least the aluminum won't rust! LOL. I like the screaming gf part. Reminds me of me! HA. | ||
| Prescottj (Prescottj) Senior Member Username: Prescottj Post Number: 292 Registered: 12-2002 |
that ROCKS I would love to piss my wife off. No worries I seem to lack "common sense" according to Sean, I would have turned around and have done it again without even thinking twice. You should have left her on the roofrack for your walk back. | ||
| Pete Stefano (Pete_s) New Member Username: Pete_s Post Number: 4 Registered: 02-2003 |
Thats great man!! I too would do it again but from my experiance whenever I do something again or go back, something goes wrong. LOL!! NEVER GO BACK!!! I have gotten stuck bad so many times just because I got through it once and thinking I can do it again. | ||
| Chris von Czoernig (Chrisvonc) Senior member Username: Chrisvonc Post Number: 134 Registered: 07-2002 |
You morons. I just read this thread and am horrified at the stupidity coming out of the mouths of you people. I even re-read it and the follow up posts again and again just to be sure I was not reading it wrong the first time. Seriously, I can't believe you retards are cheering his actions and talking the smack that you are. Do any of you have a working TV and ever see all those shows and news broadcasts of peoples bodies and cars getting sucked down stream in that very situation. The only post that has any merit was Rob's and I am surprised it was so brief. James, your actions were irresponsible, wreakless, and incredibly stupid. Compounded by the fact that you were driving after you had been drinking, you not only seriously endangered your own safety, but the safety of your girlfriend and possibly others downstream had your truck started getting swept away, TWICE, and could end up with thousands of dollars in repairs if you are not lucky. But hey, I guess it was worth it though... at least the $30 air filter stayed dry. Follow Robs advice and the brief words of common sense from the middle of Brian's first post. If you haven't gotten the truck started yet, don't bother. First order of business should be to drain the transmission, both front and rear diffs, engine oil, and get everything dry. The steam produced by the water in the transmission just from driving it around will almost immediately turn into a transmission replacement job. You have a gas engine, which are not water tight to begin, which is further crippled for deep WADING, not SINKING, with a distributor system. There are plenty of ways to damage a truck with water other than sucking it in through the air intake. Crossing 4'+ deep water twice and leaving in the water while you hiked home, I would say, you most like have found them all. Why do you think EVERY snorkel manufacture states that gas engines are not suited for deep wading? There is a reason for it other than to break our balls. I am glad you lucked out with getting out of the water with no bodily harm to you and your girl. I really hope your luck holds out and you have minimal aftermath resulting from the water in the truck. Also, I hope you start to use more common sense in the future. Chris von C. | ||
| Carter Simcoe (Carter) Senior member Username: Carter Post Number: 1925 Registered: 04-2002 |
Man Chris let the guy have some fun if he wants, its not like he stole your truck and drove it through the river. Am I to expect this sort of response when I report the results of my current waterproofing project??? | ||
| Carter Simcoe (Carter) Senior member Username: Carter Post Number: 1926 Registered: 04-2002 |
I missed the drinking part, that was stupid. But as for the rest of it I don't care unless you come asking for hand outs with www.savemytruck.com | ||
| Prescottj (Prescottj) Senior Member Username: Prescottj Post Number: 294 Registered: 12-2002 |
fuck chris, Ouch Man he couldn't have been drinking that much. He did carry his chick out of the river without dropping her. and to Carter ROCK FUCKIN ON | ||
| Chris von Czoernig (Chrisvonc) Senior member Username: Chrisvonc Post Number: 136 Registered: 07-2002 |
Having fun, being silly or even foolish in a more controlled wheeling environment is one thing. Passengers can get out, buddies can get the tow straps and recovery trucks ready providing they already have not tried to talk you out of whatever it is you are going to try. But the possibility of endangering someone else's life(s) while intoxicated in a vehicle, in an already bad and extreme weather situation is never acceptable and should not be cheered. If that's one's idea of fun, I'll look for you on the news and on clips of "When Nature Attacks III". | ||
| Carter Simcoe (Carter) Senior member Username: Carter Post Number: 1927 Registered: 04-2002 |
yeah, I will admit you have some points and I am asuming that his passengers had a chance to get out if they wanted and that there was no one down stream (the key word is 'assume') | ||
| Prescottj (Prescottj) Senior Member Username: Prescottj Post Number: 296 Registered: 12-2002 |
Yeah you do have a good point. On the other hand my kind of fun is riding a quad at 55 mph through an AZ moonsoon in the middle of Decemcber wearing nothing but shorts and goggles or base jumping off a cliff in the middle of a blizzard, only did that once it was pretty dangerous but me and my friend hiked and climbed for a day and a half to get to the jumpsite. You could say I easily Lack Common Sense but it is so hard to say no to dangerous situations when your an adreneline junkie like myself. | ||
| James (Jimmyg) Member Username: Jimmyg Post Number: 132 Registered: 10-2002 |
For the record: Chris, I am 24 years old and like to have fun. I work in restaurants so I often have 2-3 drinks after work...no more. If you are drunk after that, you are weak. That night I had 3 beers. Don't lecture before you know the facts. And for the love of God, I knew what I was getting into! I've crossed the stream dozens of times. I'm not a idiot, I just like to push the limits. I'm not a mall crawler like 50% of you fools. You know who you are. After leaving CO to VA, there is not much fun to be had. I have learned from all of my many mistakes and I regret none of them. I would do it all over again. Pushing the limit does NOT mean crossing it. If you saw what I did, then you may have room to speak. I appreciate your concern but I used to off-road 20+ hours a week for 2 years. I learned a lot and have much more to learn. I had fun which was my goal. I know that 75% of you all out there would have done the exact same if presented the same situation. By the way, I was pulled home where I collected all my oils. I'm not that kind of ass that drops oil into a stream then leaves. Knowing you have a 2nd vehicle close by gives me some added courage. Some mistakes cost $, but so does maintaining our rigs. Have fun or drop dead. I now understand who the made the Jeep liberty for... | ||
| Chris von Czoernig (Chrisvonc) Senior member Username: Chrisvonc Post Number: 137 Registered: 07-2002 |
Regardless, thankfully, him and his girl got out of the situation safely. Carter.. how the F* do you have 1927 posts? You live here or what? Damn man. | ||
| Carter Simcoe (Carter) Senior member Username: Carter Post Number: 1928 Registered: 04-2002 |
so...... 50% of us are mall crawlers but 75% of us would have attempted the crossing, by my math that makes for a lot of yuppies w/ balls of steel. Perhaps this might lead to a new Fox special: "when good yuppies go bad"???? -Just yanking your chain, as w/ many of my posts don't take it to seriously. | ||
| Alex Cabrera (Alexcabrera) Member Username: Alexcabrera Post Number: 90 Registered: 12-2002 |
If thats the case then what the fuck are you doing Chris. Everytime you drive out of your driveway is cause for concern. I guess we'll never see you going past speed limit. What? Yeah. That would be endangering others. Your the fucking moron! What is life if you can't enjoy it. Your initial post calling everyone a moron is childish. So what if I want to destroy my truck. I paid for it so it should not concern you what I do with it. You sound like mommas boy. Always watching without trying to be involved. Now go hide behind mommas skirt. Alex ps you can kiss my ass. posters like this get me riled up. | ||
| Carter Simcoe (Carter) Senior member Username: Carter Post Number: 1929 Registered: 04-2002 |
he he, I've ALWAYS been logged in when I post. And yeah, dweb is a great procrastination tool. Actually what I'm doing right now, just got 2 inches of snow dumped on us in the past hour, it's sticking to the roads but unfortunately I'm still going to have to take the test because the teacher lives right across the street from school. | ||
| Alex Cabrera (Alexcabrera) Member Username: Alexcabrera Post Number: 92 Registered: 12-2002 |
carter you don't want to do that! You'll be endangering others.. stay home! ROFL | ||
| Prescottj (Prescottj) Senior Member Username: Prescottj Post Number: 297 Registered: 12-2002 |
ouch, that was pretty harsh alex. There are people who always consider the safety aspect and me who is just an adreneline idiot. Had I taken safety into affect last weekend when I went snowboarding with out a shirt on or helmet, I would still have the skin on my arms for both of my arms have severe roadrash from the wrist to the elbow after a nasty spill at about 35 mph off the biggest jump on the mountain | ||
| Prescottj (Prescottj) Senior Member Username: Prescottj Post Number: 298 Registered: 12-2002 |
Carter your in college shouldn't you be drunk by now it's monday night. | ||
| Chris von Czoernig (Chrisvonc) Senior member Username: Chrisvonc Post Number: 138 Registered: 07-2002 |
Hey Alex.. Do you even wheel? Go take more puddle shots of the mud touching your air cap, shut the fuck up, and find a mall you waxer. Chris | ||
| Alex Cabrera (Alexcabrera) Member Username: Alexcabrera Post Number: 94 Registered: 12-2002 |
Pres... bet you had a hella good time doing it though right? Thats my point. I can't sit here and watch others judge and make generalizations like that. I won't call you a moron for jumping off the biggest mountain without gear. I'd high five and try to top you! LOL. My point is that life is too short! | ||
| James (Jimmyg) Member Username: Jimmyg Post Number: 133 Registered: 10-2002 |
Thanks for the good support. As for my previous math, I did not count the 50% "mall crawlers" as "us". I used to race a CBR 900 until someone stole it. The insurance paid for my D1. I can't go 180mph in my D1 so I find alternate ways to have fun. Off-roading and snowboarding is all I have now. Thanks again from those who are concerned and like to have fun. I don't intend to be rude if any of you all are pissed. | ||
| Chris von Czoernig (Chrisvonc) Senior member Username: Chrisvonc Post Number: 139 Registered: 07-2002 |
And Alex.. I dont give a shit if you want to kill your truck on Starbuck runs or what ever the fuck you pretend to do but if you want to kill your truck and cause needless harm to other in an wheeling situation that could be avoided by using common sense is where I have the problem. | ||
| Alex Cabrera (Alexcabrera) Member Username: Alexcabrera Post Number: 95 Registered: 12-2002 |
Chris... Neiner Neiner Neiner.. you sound like a bully that has lost his bullyness. Take a chill pill and next time do something outrageous. Oh no! not Chris. LOL Like most folks I'm here to find more info on the trucks that we drive. I'm not here to judge or make assumptions. I'll leave it at that. | ||
| Prescottj (Prescottj) Senior Member Username: Prescottj Post Number: 300 Registered: 12-2002 |
Alex, I'm to fuckin EXTREME to be topped so don't even think about it Different people have different opinions and you just have to chill out have a beer and try to see where there coming from and if you can't your a little to high strung and inneed of therapy | ||
| Alex Cabrera (Alexcabrera) Member Username: Alexcabrera Post Number: 96 Registered: 12-2002 |
I hear you Pres... Different strokes for different folks. | ||
| James (Jimmyg) Member Username: Jimmyg Post Number: 134 Registered: 10-2002 |
The D1 has 2 sunroofs to get out of if the water is too deep...it's not like the sunroofs normally work like they are supposed to anyway. By the way, my girl rocks and is the one who got me into 4-wheeling. She knew what she was into and was never in fear of being in danger. Her rig is bigger than mine! | ||
| Chris von Czoernig (Chrisvonc) Senior member Username: Chrisvonc Post Number: 140 Registered: 07-2002 |
Alex, The correct term in this case should be "Nanny nanny boo boo". Lets not get carried away. | ||
| KJ (Karen) Senior member Username: Karen Post Number: 70 Registered: 02-2002 |
I'm with Chris on this one, that sounds like a seriously ill-advised bit of late-night activity. This entire geographic area is under flood warnings and watches. I think the most sensible thing about the whole event was the terrified girlfriend screaming. Seems appropriate under the circumstances. Karen | ||
| Frank Rafka (Mongosd2) New Member Username: Mongosd2 Post Number: 12 Registered: 02-2003 |
WOW...James, your a idoit to do what you did! Sorry, but next time YOU want to take that chance, do it by yourself! On the drinkin' thing your a bigger ASSHOLE for making that comment... do me and the rest of the world a favor and not DRINK AND DRIVE...stating that you have a tolerance is also BULLSHIT! I know several guys with a badge that would like to nail your ass to the wall with your bullshit. Beyond the fact that guys like me that would have to save your SORRY ASS when your drowning in your truck,or cut your STUPID ASS out of a wreck...A PIECE OF SHIT LIKE YOU NEEDS A REALITY CHECK...NO REGRETS... FRANK | ||
| Chris von Czoernig (Chrisvonc) Senior member Username: Chrisvonc Post Number: 141 Registered: 07-2002 |
Well, James. I think I did know the facts as presented by you and I think I did have room to speak and form my opinion. You yourself admitted to alcohol being a factor and you stated that the crossing which was normally only 1'+ deep and 35' wide has now risen 4x and doubled in width. (According to you, the water was 3" up your windshield of a Disco with a 3" lift that would put the bottom of your windshield roughly at a little more than 4'.) That by any standard a pretty serious flood condition going on there. SO by going on the info provided by you originally, we have a post of a drunk wheeler, with a screaming girl, who has crossed a 65' wide 1.5 times and then walked through the 4'+ deep flooding condition with people here cheering his actions. Going on what you posted, I don't see the problems with my original statement and still see no honor in congratulating a guy who just possibly caused huge monetary amount of damage to his truck. I did take assumption on your description of your girls reaction from your original description. That's cool she's down with it. Most ear splitting screaming girlfriends are not. | ||
| Frank Rafka (Mongosd2) New Member Username: Mongosd2 Post Number: 13 Registered: 02-2003 |
OK, stupid MORON with 3" of lift and no clue... | ||
| James (Jimmyg) Member Username: Jimmyg Post Number: 135 Registered: 10-2002 |
Frank, you must be a fucking retard! 3 beers in two hours when you weigh 175lbs will show up on a breathalizer at about .02. Ask your cop friends and they will tell you. We restaurant folk are required to take a class called TIPS which is designed to teach us the fact of alcohol absorpsion which we use to leagally cut people off. Nothing I did was dangerous (except to my truck) and my girl was screaming because she was scared that her clogs were going to float off and that the water was cold. This was NOT a river and 100 feet down the stream, the water was about 2 feet deep max. You all must understand that this was fun, not dangerous, and nobody was drunk or altered. And for the record, the water was only that deep for about 5 feet, the rest was below the headlights which is when it stalled. | ||
| David Morin (Sporin) New Member Username: Sporin Post Number: 15 Registered: 02-2003 |
As far as your fording excursion, it's not something I'd do, but more power to you. But this . . . . I am 24 years old and like to have fun. I work in restaurants so I often have 2-3 drinks after work...no more. If you are drunk after that, you are weak. . . . . is in the running for dumb redneck statement of the year. C'mon man....if you've gone through TIPS, you know better then that. You know your limits, great, everyone should, but the "weak" part is nothing more then a frat-boy-macho-beer-muscles-rant. I'll just assume you were being facecious. Have fun, be safe, enjoy, and seal your doors with duct tape next time to keep the water out. | ||
| Sus (Susannah) Senior Member Username: Susannah Post Number: 406 Registered: 06-2002 |
I have to say, being a 'girl into wheelin' I'm not sure I would have been impressed with such a stunt. It would be fun under other circumstances, but the flooding around here HAS been pretty serious lately. People DO get swept down stream in water/car situations all the time and it's just not a good choice. But hey, it's your car, your life and your girlfriend's life...so live on. Next time though, don't admit to the alcohol unless you are prepared to get blasted for it...I agree that 3 beers isn't much, but it's still not something to brag about. I worked in the 'restaurant business' (ie:glorified waiter/ress?) for a few years myself, and I understand how much drinking becomes commonplace. It's a lifestyle, but it's not necessarily a good choice when mixed with 4wd. To the rest of you...stop the 'nanny nanny boo boo' crap and cussing each other out...it's just a waste of time. | ||
| Dean Brown (Deanbrown3d) Senior Member Username: Deanbrown3d Post Number: 503 Registered: 02-2002 |
Jimmyg, I've been reading up on this thread with just fucking amazement in my mind. You appear to be an exagerating don't you think? I mean you state that its 4.5 feet deep of fast-running river. Well, I don't know about you, but I can hardly walk in ONE foot of fast running water. And then to carry your girlfriend across at the same time, well that's plainly just bullshit. So what else is there in your statement that can be believed? Three inches above the bottom of the windscreen and you had your windows open? Why? Anyone who's done any water crossing knows that's the FIRST thing you close LOL! So you're saying you were just sitting there with a waterfall pouring through the open windows and you're up to your chest in water right? Bullshit man. And then to top it all you WENT BACK AGAIN? There's so much exaggerated bullshit in your statement its unbelievable. Perhaps you had even more to drink than you imagine? Dean | ||
| charles pastrano (Charles) Member Username: Charles Post Number: 128 Registered: 08-2002 |
I would definitely have to agree with Penn and Teller above. I cant imagine you carrying your girlfriend through 4' of fast moving, freezing water. Add the screaming into the equation. No dice I am with the call BULLSHIT. | ||
| Rob Davison (Nosivad_bor) Senior member Username: Nosivad_bor Post Number: 73 Registered: 02-2003 |
james, discoweb has sort of become a place where bragging about doing dumb shit like this is frowned apon. goto http://www.pirate4x4.com/ if you want some mad props for drowning your car. | ||
| Carter Simcoe (Carter) Senior member Username: Carter Post Number: 1930 Registered: 04-2002 |
I could still give two shits about what you do to your truck but I spend plenty of time wading rivers and you aren't going to be carrying anyone through 4 1/2 feet of fast flowing water. Sorry dude but this story gets more watered down everytime you post, next we'll be hearing about you and the girlfriend sitting around the campfire singing 'kumbaya' with the teletubies after it was all over with. | ||
| Douglas J. Boehme (Dboehme) New Member Username: Dboehme Post Number: 1 Registered: 02-2003 |
Congrats James(Jimmyg) on still being alive. Apparently Darwinism missed you this time but by all accounts you should already be dead. Chris Von C is spot on with his comments. Hardcore wheeling is acceptable, but if you're going to try to kill yourself, don't put others at risk. Also, being an idiot isn't acceptable anywhere, including the Pirate board. | ||
| Rans (Rans) Senior Member Username: Rans Post Number: 351 Registered: 08-2002 |
A few lessons for me here.... 1) I have some additional names to add to my "Unsafe to wheel with list" 2) Dumbass stunts like that are only good for the participant getting wood from it and looking to appear on the jackass movie. 3) We have a hard enough time getting respect in the community which is needed to keep lands open to offroaders. Everytime someone gets in trouble with a stunt like this we loose a little more leverage. Thank God no one saw you. 4) The phrase "Instant Asshole, just add alcohol" has taken on new meaning for me. 5) Lastly, I've wheeled with Chris and Frank in the past and I believe I can say with some certainty that they've probably forgotten more about wheeling than some of you in here have demonstrated ever knowing. You guys supporting this lunacy are clearly of the self-centered, self-satisfied, instant gratification, all-about- you portion of our society that just scares the shit outta me. Please consider getting neutered before you spread those genes around anywhere! | ||
| Brian Friend (Brianfriend) Senior Member Username: Brianfriend Post Number: 440 Registered: 09-2002 |
Bout time we had another good flame post. Now you guys are taking things in such a literal manner and over analyizing this to death. I read the post for what it was...a funny story. My gut tells me that he ran the crossing AFTER analizing the situation, and yes he underestimated it but so drasticly that it was dangerous. I know that when I am assessing an obsicle safety is my first concern...I am always asking myself what is the worst that can come of this situation, depending on that answere I decide to take the risk or not. Since I was not there with him I will give the bennifit of the doubt that he knew what he was doing. Everyone is assuming that he was out at 2am ecause he was drinking. He has already explianed that and at 3 beers in 2 hrs or whatever it was, you all need to give him the bennifit of the doubt on that too. As far as the weak comment....that was probably a speak then think type of comment. But it sure did fire some of you guys up. lol. | ||
| Carter Simcoe (Carter) Senior member Username: Carter Post Number: 1938 Registered: 04-2002 |
yeah, Brian's thought process on the trial: "So whats the worst that can come of this situation???? Break my panhard and track rods, break a front axle, blow the CVs, smash the grill guard, smash the front bumper, smash the front quarter, and break the winch cable. Hmmmm, lets go for it." | ||
| Kyle Van Tassel (Kyle) Moderator Username: Kyle Post Number: 30 Registered: 11-2002 |
Look , the issue here is the same issue that is infecting the rest of the BBS. These are kids , they like to brag and exagerate and most of them are completley full of shit. Take it with a grain of salt and ignore em. As Dean pointed out this guy is full of shit as well. His story changes to fit the climate.. And The "Hit my rear locker" statement almost made me pee myself.... Its just kids people that are mingling with adults. The problem is that this isnt real life and you cant identify the kid easy and dissmiss what you are hearing.... Kyle "Blow me" | ||
| Brian Friend (Brianfriend) Senior Member Username: Brianfriend Post Number: 441 Registered: 09-2002 |
Carter....I probably am not be the finest example of damage controll driving as you so diplomaticly point out. BTW...I also broke the winch motor off and both front axles. Ruined my tires too from having to drive home with the toe out so bad the tires squeeled the whole way home, they are not very round anymore. | ||
| Kirk Thibault (Kirkt) New Member Username: Kirkt Post Number: 35 Registered: 11-2002 |
It sounds like this story is really just an embellished version of that stupid Lincoln Navigator commercial where, clearly, the man and woman are finishing up their first date and they are walking back to the woman's Navigator and the rain has puddled next to the curb/driver side door. In a valiant , chivalrous gesture, the man throws his coat down over the puddle to keep his lady love from getting her feet wet. In an emasculating turn of events spawned by Lincoln super technology, the woman shuns her knight in shining armor's gesture and deploys her remote control running boards with her key fob, stepping blithely and dryly into her Navigator. Then she gives the guy a token peck on the cheek, as if to say, yeah, you're not getting any -EVER. The question is, did jimmyg deploy the remote running boards? | ||
| Prescottj (Prescottj) Senior Member Username: Prescottj Post Number: 309 Registered: 12-2002 |
Kirk, What the Hell are you talking about? | ||
| Kirk Thibault (Kirkt) New Member Username: Kirkt Post Number: 36 Registered: 11-2002 |
I'm talking about that stupid Lincoln Navigator commercial where, clearly, the man and woman are finishing up their first date and they are walking back to the woman's Navigator and the rain has puddled next to the curb/driver side door. In a valiant , chivalrous gesture, the man throws his coat down over the puddle to keep his lady love from getting her feet wet. In an emasculating turn of events spawned by Lincoln super technology, the woman shuns her knight in shining armor's gesture and deploys her remote control running boards with her key fob, stepping blithely and dryly into her Navigator. Then she gives the guy a token peck on the cheek, as if to say, yeah, you're not getting any -EVER. What part didn't you get? Just trying to lighten things up. I supose it doesn't make sense if you've never seen the commercial.... | ||
| Greg (Gparrish) Senior Member Username: Gparrish Post Number: 1072 Registered: 04-2002 |
I've seen it. Funny commercial, in a cruel and true to life sort of way......... I've also seen many a vehicle totaled from water crossings. I lived 8 years in Houston, Texas, and down there when it rains much it floods. The town is only about 50 feet above sea level and it's mostly concrete. Very similar in nature to when the ground is frozen solid and it's raining and snow is melting. However, up here with the ground frozen and shifting, I would think it even more dangerous. I've seen the Coast Guard helicopters and crew have to risk their lives many times due to people taking risks and gambles. Unless you can clearly see the bottom of what you are fording, I think you are taking a risk to ford any flood water. At 2am, and with the width double what it normally is when flooded, there is no way you could have anticipated the current and depth. In other words, I'm not defending you here, I'm saying it would be stupid to venture into water that could have been 8' deep for all you knew. Also, the bottom of the crossing could have washed out, or be blocked with debris. I won't knock the two or three beers before you were out there as I think there is enough said by the "Just go for it" approach to your crossing. The "Just go for it" approach usually ends in one of two ways. A successful attempt or a devistating failure. I would say you were lucky to be in the middle of that range. | ||
| Kevin Bridges (Craniac) New Member Username: Craniac Post Number: 37 Registered: 02-2003 |
Not to judge because Ive done stupid things But....My brother Was an adrenaline junkie too.That ended July,28 1992 in a scuba accident.He never met his daughter who was born Aug 16 1992.Say what you want but its those around you that suffer when things go wrong.Sorry for getting heavy,but very few plan on dying wile "having fun" | ||
| Andy Thoma (Andythoma) New Member Username: Andythoma Post Number: 38 Registered: 01-2003 |
Good point Kyle, sometimes you need to recognized B.S. and just let it go, because getting you panties in a knot over BS isn't worth it. As far as the B.S. goes, I grew up in PA and used to be a class 5 whitewater boater. I stopped after a near death experience by being pinned for about 10 minutes. James, I used to play in storm swollen streams in VA,WV,PA,MD all the time. If the stream did go from 4.5' deep to 2' in about 100 ftas you described then you where right by a bottle neck. The water would actually be flowing faster as it was trying to flood out into the wider drainage area. I don't think you could have walked in the stream, maybe if you were in a large flooded field you could, but not in a stream like that, a foot of water and you would be lucky to stand. The point your truck went that deep, I couldn't even imagine your truck going straight anymore, the water should be pushing it too. If you did ford something that deep I would thank a higher power for surviving. Chris was a little harsh, but he was correct, it would have been irresponsible to do what you did. 2 am did anyone know where you were or doing if you didn't come back? I have done lots of stupid shit in my day, if you admit that you did stupid shit, recognize it as stupid and expect to take shit for it. Bragging isn't cool if it is BS, cheapens actions of people who actually do hard core stuff. | ||
| Prescottj (Prescottj) Senior Member Username: Prescottj Post Number: 311 Registered: 12-2002 |
I understand where your coming from Crainic, my idiot inside of me toned down quite a bit when I got married | ||
| Frank Rafka (Mongosd2) New Member Username: Mongosd2 Post Number: 14 Registered: 02-2003 |
I guess I should have called bullshit and walked away... frank | ||
| Kyle Van Tassel (Kyle) Moderator Username: Kyle Post Number: 31 Registered: 11-2002 |
Andy , his opening post is so over exagerated its not even funny. If there was enough water flowing to come in the open window then there was enough water pressure to push the truck down stream. Like I said. Reading the first post should be enough to know that the story is overblown. Reading the kids profile and seeing that he is 24 puts the nails in the coffin... That crap is all over the site now. Is anyone else reading the age of these people ??? We were all that age once and we had a different agenda as well. But its getting to be a bit much reading that crap on here every day.... Kyle "Blow me" | ||
| James (Jimmyg) Member Username: Jimmyg Post Number: 136 Registered: 10-2002 |
Folks, First, I agree that alcohol and driving don't mix. I also never bragged about it (look at my first post) . At the time, I was nervous but now I think it was funny/stupid...but never dangerous. I honestly can't tell how fast the water was in the stream. I had no problem walking with the current but upstream was much harder. If any of you all could see the ford, everything would make much more sense. I just wanted to share a story that would make some of you laugh, not rip me apart based on your opinion of a situation that you were NOT in. I may have made a stupid comment but I'm far from a "red-neck". Next time I will just list the facts like a mod gallery instead of elaborating a story. As most people do, I feel differently now than I did 8 hours after the event. Why get pissed, just laugh, learn and move on. Imagine that water crossing at MAR, just with a little more water and tad bit more current. Just like that situation, I knew the stream floor was solid and I knew where help/recovery was. Once more, it was NOT dangerous! Man, I wish I had picks to calm you all. | ||
| Greg (Gparrish) Senior Member Username: Gparrish Post Number: 1073 Registered: 04-2002 |
On a different note, yet sort of the same, has anyone noticed that the little icon for the place you right click to copy a thread link sort of looks like a mug of beer? Just curious. | ||
| James (Jimmyg) Member Username: Jimmyg Post Number: 137 Registered: 10-2002 |
One last point, the stream is on a gravel/grass road that nobody uses except me and the property owner surrounding the stream with whom I am friends. 90% of the stream, since it was rising on flat ground, was only about knee deap and calm. The center was the deep part for about the length of my truck with the stronger current. Next time I will just say I got stuck in a stream instead. | ||
| James (Jimmyg) Member Username: Jimmyg Post Number: 138 Registered: 10-2002 |
The picture of Greg French crossing (How deep can a disco go-Tech section) the water was more dangerous than my situation.My truck sure didn't float. How deep was the center of that Greg? Also, the water is never clear in my stream even when it is 8 inches deep. | ||
| Kent Westbrook (Kentwest) New Member Username: Kentwest Post Number: 10 Registered: 10-2002 |
Wow, glad to see some reason and BS-calling injected into this thread. I read the first part of this with the same sense of shock Chris evidently did, over the safety aspect, subjecting ones truck to that kind of abuse, and then so many others cheering the guy on for what I perceived as irresponsible. James has more or less admitted to a bit of embellishment for dramatic purposes, and it sounds like he knew a bit more about the situation than some originally gave him credit for, but still...I didn't realize we had so many "adrenaline junkies" on DWeb now. Hell, for a guy like me, whose truck serves mall-crawling, grocery-getting, get back and forth to work purposes, in addition to providing off-road enjoyment, at least I know who not to go with!! Dean Brown's Pine Barrens jaunts provide me with more than enough excitement. But then, I guess I'm weak and a retard, because I fall asleep after two beers. Or maybe that's just being old. | ||
| Greg (Gparrish) Senior Member Username: Gparrish Post Number: 1075 Registered: 04-2002 |
Kent, are you home? Didn't you get shipped off somewhere last fall? | ||
| Rans (Rans) Senior Member Username: Rans Post Number: 352 Registered: 08-2002 |
Yeah I remember being 24 and thinking I had the world by the balls....and I remember thinking how immature 18 year olds acted then....LOL....now all you kids under 40 seem immature (and a few over 40 as well - self included at times!) Regardless, I'll stand by what I said. | ||
| Kent Westbrook (Kentwest) New Member Username: Kentwest Post Number: 11 Registered: 10-2002 |
Different Kent, Greg. I think you're thinking of Kennith; his last name began with W too, but can't remember it. I think he was also from the Philly area. | ||
| Andy Thoma (Andythoma) New Member Username: Andythoma Post Number: 39 Registered: 01-2003 |
Wait a minute, we go from 5' deep and 3" up the windshield to 8" deep? I saw that picture from greg, yes his truck is in the drink, but your original post sounds way worse than that. I can see a flooded field, your still lucky it was frozen ground, mud in spring would have sucked your ass down and nothing short of a winch or a helo, would have got you out before spring. I think people are jumping down your throat about this thread because it sounds more like your trying to prove yourself as an amazing wheeler more than a question on what did I screw up after this. If greg's situation was more dangerous than yours, then say it. Don't try to pretty up the facts of what you did to sound better. A flooded field can and will drown a truck, but tell us that you where in a field, not some raging 'xtreme' situation. Kyles point of young ones posting, I think its more about integrity and not bull shiting on a BBS, than age. | ||
| Greg (Gparrish) Senior Member Username: Gparrish Post Number: 1076 Registered: 04-2002 |
All this talk makes me remember this one time I was off roading all alone and there was around 6 feet of snow on the ground and I had to ford this river that was at least 5 foot deep. The water was rushing by and was so cold that it was freezing on the hood as it went over. The snow was blowing so furiously that I couldn't see out of the windshield, so I took my axe and busted the windshield out to be able to see. After working for hours to get the truck across the raging, deep waters, I finally gave up and towed the truck out using the tow strap draped across my shoulder in the 6' deep snow. It was treacherous and I was lucky not to loose my favorite designer snow boots. I screamed in glee when I first touched the snow it was so cold. I could just imagine loosing one of my gloves and having to explain that when I got home. Luckily my friends lived within 16 miles so I only had to drag my flooded and frozen truck for 16 miles up hill in the snow to get help............ Good thing I got pictures of my river crossing by myself in the snow.......  | ||
| Dean Brown (Deanbrown3d) Senior Member Username: Deanbrown3d Post Number: 507 Registered: 02-2002 |
Greg LMAO that was funny shit. You should have taken the Mines of Moria instead Dean | ||
| Andy Thoma (Andythoma) New Member Username: Andythoma Post Number: 40 Registered: 01-2003 |
I'm BULLSHIT Greg, you said you we alone, I see other people in that picture. | ||
| Andy Thoma (Andythoma) Member Username: Andythoma Post Number: 41 Registered: 01-2003 |
I'll call BULL... Damn I wish I could type... | ||
| Dean Brown (Deanbrown3d) Senior Member Username: Deanbrown3d Post Number: 508 Registered: 02-2002 |
(psst you can click the edit button Andy ) | ||
| David Morin (Sporin) New Member Username: Sporin Post Number: 16 Registered: 02-2003 |
FYI, FWIW, etc. I'm a fly fisherman and spend a lot of time standing and walking in moving water. Anything over shin deep gets VERY difficult to walk in, in any direction if there is a good current. Waist deep and you are lucky not to flood your waders and be dragged away. I never go past just over my knees in moving water unless I have a buddy along, it's just not safe. And that's with waders, and studded & felt soled boots. This all reminds me that I want to put extended diff breathers on the Toy. | ||
| Greg (Gparrish) Senior Member Username: Gparrish Post Number: 1077 Registered: 04-2002 |
Dean..... Andy...... If you guys had just been there you would see that what I did was totally macho. I called all those friends out to see me stuck in the river. It was deeper of course when I got stuck and much wider too. I had Land Rover come out and replace the shattered windshield before everyone got there. Seriously though, I was so cool when I flooded my truck...... I mean, when I shell out $1,800.00 to fix all the stuff under the hood, I'm going to take my girlfriend with me so she can see me whip out my visa card. She gets all hot and excited when I act cool. This one time, I ran my car into a block wall just so I could prove a point to this dude. He didn't think I would do it, but I just did it and I showed him. I mean yeah, I coulda died, but what the hell, you only live once, so it's not like it's that big a deal. Also, my girlfriend loves the smell of mildew. She said it is awesome when my truck smells like warmed over swamp shit. Damn I'm so cool........ | ||
| Andy Thoma (Andythoma) Member Username: Andythoma Post Number: 42 Registered: 01-2003 |
Dean I'm to 'xtreme' to use the edit button. | ||
| Andy Thoma (Andythoma) Member Username: Andythoma Post Number: 43 Registered: 01-2003 |
Plus at 43 posts, I have alot of work to catch up to Carter. | ||
| James (Jimmyg) Member Username: Jimmyg Post Number: 139 Registered: 10-2002 |
The bottom was not frozen, just solid with very small rocks. I'll try to get a pic up soon. The variuos depths of which I speak reflect the various depths of the stream, not any BS from me. If anyone is in Charlottesville, I'll show you. | ||
| Sus (Susannah) Senior Member Username: Susannah Post Number: 407 Registered: 06-2002 |
HEY THERE KYLE....I'm 23 and you don't hear any BS from me!! Ok, just making a point! | ||
| Sus (Susannah) Senior Member Username: Susannah Post Number: 408 Registered: 06-2002 |
Greg Parrish: ROTFLMAO! | ||
| Kirk Thibault (Kirkt) New Member Username: Kirkt Post Number: 37 Registered: 11-2002 |
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| Carter Simcoe (Carter) Senior Member Username: Carter Post Number: 1942 Registered: 04-2002 |
Why do you guys have to hate on my post count??? It's not my fault I know everything there is to know about land rovers -That is saturated with sarcasm so don't even get going. BTW I'm planning a big party for my 2,000th post everyone is free to drop by if they want to remember what its like to be in their twenties. I'm going to dig a big ditch and fill it with water, its going to be about 20 feet deep we can all take turns driving through it then we will post here about how EXTREEEEEEEME it was when Thom hauls us out with that fancy milemarker winch of his. If Kyle decides to show up we can take his disco and Thom's scout out into the street, we'll chain the back of their trucks to something, tie their winch cables together and they can pull until somebody's shit fucks up then we'll have that question answered. While we're at it we may as well have a 9K and under 'smoke off' as well. And Ho, Twinkie is just dying for a good set of Jeep wheels so be sure to make your way over here as well. And last but not least who can forget the dweb spelling bee, brush up on those tricky words like ••••••, •••••••, and ••••••••••• . Perhaps we can start a dweb fight club as well??? Everybody let the boss know now, I should be there in a few weeks (don't forget the video camera Ax, this is sure to be worthy of a DVD). Oh yeah and Greg I have a nice brick wall that I bet you won't drive into as well ***this whole post is just covered in sarcasm so pay it no attention, I'm in my twenties but I'm not that stupid  | ||
| Peter Carey (Pcarey) Senior Member Username: Pcarey Post Number: 501 Registered: 05-2002 |
Don't worry James, I got a picture juuuust as you were exiting on the first run... http://www.pazoodle.com/2-1-03/crw_9241_std.jpg Whew, that looks tuff' pwc | ||
| Greg (Gparrish) Senior Member Username: Gparrish Post Number: 1079 Registered: 04-2002 |
Yeah, Carter, when I drove into that block wall, it was so cool. All I was thinking when I got out of the truck was.................. I sure wish there had been a river here for me to ford also.  | ||
| Henry Fox (Henryfox) Senior Member Username: Henryfox Post Number: 241 Registered: 06-2002 |
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| Paul D. Morgan (V22guy) Senior Member Username: V22guy Post Number: 1235 Registered: 02-2002 |
What a great read. Chris Von C hit it on the head. And those of you who think he doesn't wheel might want to check out a Dweb Video.... Craniac stated, "....but very few plan on dying wile "having fun" Man, no shit! You just never know. I have lost a few buddies who were doing just that, having fun flying around. Greg, I want to party with you man. You are extreeeeeeme! Carter, I'll bring a donkey to your party. | ||
| Andy Thoma (Andythoma) Member Username: Andythoma Post Number: 44 Registered: 01-2003 |
Actual thread related advice: The cd changer, use a chemical dryer on it. You can get it from radio shack, if you got the changer wet you could rust some the interal mechicanisms, using a chemical electronics cleaning/drying spray could help it. I don't know whats it is call, but it for cleaning IC boards. James, Reread the first thing you posted. Then reread your last post. Seems to me they differ in description of the fording event. Don't get me wrong, trucks are not boats, so whatever what crossing you do or have done is always a hazard and anyone who tires one should be commended for actually using a 4x4 for its ablity offroad instead of at the mall. I understand the varing depths thing, and I don't doubt it. I was in the middle of Utah at a place call 9 mile canyon. I was crossing an irrigation channel. I actually crossed it 2 times before and it wasn't deeper than about half my wheel size (245/70/16). The third time, even thought I waded the first two, I just drove in with out wading this one first. After I was in the canal, I nearly crapped my pants. The water went right up to about the 3/4 mark on the tire which in my 2" lifted and loaded disco meant the bottom of the doors. I thought I was fucked and started praying it would not get deeper, but it didn't and I drove right out. I didn't have any problems after that, but if I were to post a thread about it I wouldn't say, the water was lapping at my windows, because it wasn't, or that I couldn't use my headlights, because it wasn't that deep. Do you know what I mean? If you did go that deep, my thought would be you drove into a deep hole, or the original stream bed. I would wonder how steep the bank was on the approach and departure. Did you go back through the stream and break down in the field on the return trip? Then where was the 4.5' of water you carried your g/f through? Your posts are just inconsistant, sorry man I'm calling them like I see them. | ||
| Rob Davison (Nosivad_bor) Senior Member Username: Nosivad_bor Post Number: 76 Registered: 02-2003 |
kirkt, i dont remember reading your name on here before, but i am digging your humor greatly. especially repeating yourself. it was lovely rd | ||
| Jack Quinlan (Jsq) Member Username: Jsq Post Number: 174 Registered: 10-2002 |
Excellent work there Henry. | ||
| John Kruger (Johnnyk) Member Username: Johnnyk Post Number: 169 Registered: 02-2002 |
ok, someone owes me 5 minutes!! | ||
| Kyle Van Tassel (Kyle) Moderator Username: Kyle Post Number: 32 Registered: 11-2002 |
Well James (And Cheer leaders) I was young once and I did all the same shit , hell , I am sure I did much worse. And I dont really wanna say that this site isnt for you but I have had enough of the bullshit. I hear atleast once a day about how the site has degraded . Personally I have a had a few Deaths in the family in the last month and I have been going through a job change so I havnt had time to really do anything about it. But its coming. I like the fact that the young kids get the trucks and get into the hobby. Some of them are in it for the long haul and it shows. Most are just fucking around and most dont wanna read about it. Keep that in mind before posting because the shit is going to be deleted. Get pissed off if you like and call me names but thats how it is. If you wanna talk about dumb shit find a teenie bopper site and post it there. In a perfect world it wouldnt matter if you posted here but the fact is that you have more time then the adults so you flood the bastard with silly ass posts so that the serious posters dont even bother weeding through the shit to find anything decent. They simply stop reading. Well I aint having that shit.... Kyle "Blow me" | ||
| Kyle Van Tassel (Kyle) Moderator Username: Kyle Post Number: 33 Registered: 11-2002 |
Oh and I forgot , dont tell me about pushing the limit and being a junkie , blah blah blah , I could give two shits less and you arent impressing anyone. The site is called DISCOWEB and none of you are pushing a god damned thing to any limit with a disco... Kyle "Blow me" | ||
| Carter Simcoe (Carter) Senior Member Username: Carter Post Number: 1945 Registered: 04-2002 |
Sorry to hear about the deaths in the family Kyle, I hope the change in jobs is for the better. | ||
| joshua Frances (Joshua) Member Username: Joshua Post Number: 102 Registered: 10-2002 |
Kyle, I agree. ( for what its worth) You know James, you cant feed any of us, the BS about drinking and driving. You are talking to a bulletin board that spreads the entire world. Im sure that there are more than a few of us, that have been directly effected by stupidity like yours. Im the last person you want to try and throw excuses with, about being under the legal limit. My friend, Legal isnt as cut and dry as you might think. Though you might not blow over the state limit for operating a MV, i promise you, if I rolled up on you in yoru situation, I could guarantee i could find something wrong. Maybe not the fact that you have had 3 drinks, and are operating a MV...but something. Im a big drinker, dont get me wrong. I love to swill with the rest of the boys...but im smart about it. Being in the restaurant bussiness, only makes you look more irresponcable. and yes, Im franks friend, whos for sure glad i dont live near you | ||
| Prescottj (Prescottj) Senior Member Username: Prescottj Post Number: 318 Registered: 12-2002 |
Kyle statement is geared at me also. I'll cut that talk off. I'm phasing out of that crap anyway as I am getting ready to start a family .I don't want to be one of those guys who gets ip blocked from D WEB. There is too much information here and I need this place for info and to dish out the technical writeups when I get to hackin a part my rr | ||
| Alan Yim (Alan) Senior Member Username: Alan Post Number: 399 Registered: 09-2002 |
Kyle, my condolences to you and your family. | ||
| Andy Thoma (Andythoma) Member Username: Andythoma Post Number: 45 Registered: 01-2003 |
Kyle, sorry to hear about your family. I hope your new job goes well for you. One of the reasons I follow dweb is to learn from people who know what the hell they are talking about, and from comments like the one you made about using a pug as shark bait. People keeping it real on dweb is what has kept me coming back, most other bbs drive me away because of all the bull shiting. | ||
| Andy Thoma (Andythoma) Member Username: Andythoma Post Number: 46 Registered: 01-2003 |
I do think we push the limits of patience when dealing with all the stupid stuff that breaks on our trucks. | ||
| KJ (Karen) Senior Member Username: Karen Post Number: 71 Registered: 02-2002 |
I've laughed, I've cried, I'd have spit my milk if I was drinking any. This thread has had it all AND a cupcake! Kyle, I'm sorry to hear of your losses. I'm attending the funeral of a close friend this week. I think it's shitstorm time in SoMD, and now we have more freakin' snow in the forecast, ugh. About DiscoWeb, I know what you're saying, but I'd encourage you not to be overly concerned. This bb is strong and incredibly valuable, as well as just plain being a nice place to visit. I know you, Axel and Ho strive to improve things here all the time, and your efforts are well-appreciated. Now, try and rest your •••••• and leave off the pugs, you hear? Karen | ||
| John (Jroc) Member Username: Jroc Post Number: 74 Registered: 08-2002 |
James, Kudos to you for sticking around after the tongue lashing you so desperately deserved! We've all done stupid shit in our day and that's what being young's all about. Hopefully you not only learn from your mistakes, but live to make another. MANY times peoples poor judgment affects other greatly! I know that some of the things I'd done in my twenty's would make this seem very mild. Do the right thing and stop defending your post. And good luck with the Disco. And guys, Imagine that, a guy in his 20's that embellishes??? LOL Give me a break, take it easy on the guy! At least he took his medicine like a man. Let him walk away with his ego SOMEWHAT in tac. If he were really a MORON he would've just lashed back with some mindless cursing and laid low for a while. And Kyle, Sorry to hear about your loss. As far as the job change, think of it as a trail you haven't gone down yet. A new challege. You know your rig's set-up well, enjoy! And if you get stuck I'm sure there's a list of guys just dying to help ya out! Good Luck | ||
| Ron Brown (Ron) Member Username: Ron Post Number: 86 Registered: 04-2001 |
"none of you are pushing a god damned thing to any limit with a disco..." visa card? Sorry for your losses Kyle, and best wishes in the new job. Ron | ||
| Rich D. Lee MD. (Rich_lee) New Member Username: Rich_lee Post Number: 2 Registered: 02-2003 |
Interesting Posts. I have to agree strongly with Chrisvonc on the intent of his response and I think that Frank Rafka has the experience to back his opinion, based upon his SAR experience. I also applaud Kyle for his upcoming efforts to make the site more "responsible". Here's my 0.02 James has already been well-lectured about re-reading and re-thinking his posts on late night adventures...nuff-said and I'm glad things were not as exxxxtreme as he first posted. Still, some (mentally) younger reader migh just try to outdo his story (maybe with a car full of his buddies). Think about that before you post, or Kyle will do it for you. Prescottj. Holy shit! You're married and thinking of kids??!! Don't EVER let any life/health/auto insurance company get wind of your posts! If you even have any insurance, you would run a serious risk of having your policy cancelled. That would then leave your uncovered widow and any kids with some big medical bills after they turn off your ventilator. If you can't plan to preserve your own future, at least think of theirs. There is a HUGE difference between an "adrenalin junkie" who tries to pull off the unprotected stunts that you have (so far) survived and REAL extreme athletes who live successful, fulfilling (usually long) lives. I suggest you get to know some of these people and learn from them. Better yet, why don't you and Alex and James volunteer and train with your local Search And Rescue team, so you will learn "the dark side" of the extreme, live longer and employ your Disco for some public good? Without going into detail, this whole extreme thing gets under my skin a little. I have "coded", "pronounced" , body-recovered and informed the families of dozens of "fuckin EXTREME" dudes over the years. Many who died doing the same things I was...only without a helmet/route plan/proper gear/common sense, etc.. I have complete memories of my own risk/fear/exhaustion/sorrow in these tragedies, as well as the sights/sounds/smells, and worst of all, tears that I had to face. I also have a lot of incredible, intact memories and am alive to make some more. I'm ranting here because I want the same for you guys and don't want see your names in the obits column, or on my next asignment. Kyle, sorry to hear of your losses. Greg, That's hilarious! | ||
| James (Jimmyg) Member Username: Jimmyg Post Number: 140 Registered: 10-2002 |
You all are my friends as far as I'm concerned. Mike Noe and Enoch are my friends and know that I'm not a retard. My best friend and room mate in Switzerland was a good guy named Mathew Shepard, a "gay" kid who was killed by being pistol whipped 32 times in the head an left to die on a broke ass fence in Casper. Kyle, tell me I am full of BS you piece of shit. I guess this is the time that you all would say that I am lying and that I'm full of shit. Let me tell you desk huggers that life goes far beyond what you all can comprehend. If I actually went into the exact details of my event, you would all understand everything. I didn't want to take the time to elaborate any more than I did. I did not BS about anything "KYLE" (you waste of immaturety). I may have been dramatic, but no lies were told. Pics will be up soon. By the way, I work from 3pm to 1am. If I drink 3 beers between 11pm and 2pm...I think that is OK....But this event happened at 3:26 according to my clock that stopped in my bag. You all have over done everything! Relax folks. I'll do the same thing anyday and still be safe........ soon to get pics...oh, but hold on, Pegases may have to come get me!!! For all you know, I may be in a wheel chair!!! Would that make a difference? Thanks, James p.s. Everybody is so quick to jump to conclusions.......I guess weak back bones are being handed out these days! | ||
| Joe Blanchard (Joeblanch) New Member Username: Joeblanch Post Number: 7 Registered: 01-2003 |
Oh Hell... Here we go... | ||
| joshua Frances (Joshua) Member Username: Joshua Post Number: 103 Registered: 10-2002 |
open the bomb bay dooooorrrsssssssss kyle, we're waiting ( he must be asleep) | ||
| Paul D. Morgan (V22guy) Senior Member Username: V22guy Post Number: 1236 Registered: 02-2002 |
Karen, This thread is starting to develop the same level of love as the "Dog Thread" Have we gone nuclear yet? | ||
| Andy Thoma (Andythoma) Member Username: Andythoma Post Number: 47 Registered: 01-2003 |
Now we need to start talking about "flips" .. hehe | ||
| Rans (Rans) Senior Member Username: Rans Post Number: 353 Registered: 08-2002 |
James and Kyle, I too am sorry for your losses. In my younger days I was an adrenaline junkie too. Did some stupid shit on motorcycles that I still can't believe I survived. No one could've convinced me I was at risk at the time. then I took up rock climbing. At least I was smart enough to learn from the best and went to extremes to use good equipment, maintain it well, and use it right....but I wasn't smart enough to only climb within my abilities. I'm lucky to be alive today. James, enjoy your life, I'm sure your story wasn't as dangerous as the original version sounded. As for the 3 beers over 3 hours, yeah maybe it wasn't really much of an affect on your motor skills, but if it did affect you, you might not have been able to tell if you were affected because you were affected. I'd love to see the place in Charlotteville where you crossed. Yeah I get down there at times because you see, my 17 year old son lives in your area with my ex-wife. My reaction early on was partly in fear of him meeting a drunk driver late at night out on some country road down near Charlotteville. Well I'm rambling here, but I hope the message gets thru anyway. If we didn't care about you and consider you a friend we would never have launched on you. Well, ok, we would've, but it wouldn't have been done so nicely!! BTW, I don't think Greg is all that funny! LOL | ||
| Dean Brown (Deanbrown3d) Senior Member Username: Deanbrown3d Post Number: 516 Registered: 02-2002 |
I thought Greg's above description was fucking hilarious, I can't count how many times I read it so far! I reminded me of that advert (I don't remember for what) with the guy skiing down a slope looking sideways, talking about his expertise and his supermodel girlfriend, and then bashing into a shed. Funny shit. Can we have another dose? Dean | ||
| Prescottj (Prescottj) Senior Member Username: Prescottj Post Number: 320 Registered: 12-2002 |
Rich, The trick is to play it out like your just a clutz not some kind of wannabe superhero. | ||
| Greg (Gparrish) Senior Member Username: Gparrish Post Number: 1080 Registered: 04-2002 |
You didn't find my tall tale posts to be funny Randy? Or did you think I was telling a true story and got caught embellishing? I guess it's because I didn't mention that I only had a 48" jack-all on my bumper and my roof rack was too short at the time? I don't get it........... what didn't you like about my little story? Unless I missed it, James didn't even complain about it, so maybe even he thought it was funny. No? Yes? Maybe? Oh well, I tried to think of a funny addition to the story for this mornings readings, but alas the old repository seems to be empty right now. Maybe another cup of coffee will do the trick. | ||
| Rans (Rans) Senior Member Username: Rans Post Number: 354 Registered: 08-2002 |
Now thats funny! All the compliments you got here and in PhillyRovers that you didn't answer, and I say it ain't funny and I get a response. Now add the short rack and the 48" lift mounted on your brushguard and it's freaking hilarious! Truth is I did like it, I just wanted to see if you'd respond! LOL | ||
| KJ (Karen) Senior Member Username: Karen Post Number: 72 Registered: 02-2002 |
Oh dear god, don't bring up the "dog thread", Paul, LOL! Funny how I block that one in my memory bank, and yet the "Flip" thread and the "Richmond Chicks" thread are so memorable... Guess it's a cruelty to animals thing I block? BTW, did I mention it's freakin' SNOWING here again????? Are you in town to enjoy it? I have to actually brave driving up-town this evening and tomorrow morning for viewing/funeral events. Supposed to snow for the next 24 hours or more, yippee. Thank god I'll have the Disco to drive instead of the brick-on-wheels-Volvo. David is still working on repairs to the barn roof from the last snow. Have I mentioned I HATE SNOW????? It does NOT give me wood! Unlike our own darling Rob who perhaps loves snow a little too much.....heehee.... Sorry about the thread hijack, now everyone get back to it, and I want to see some more comedy from Greg! Karen P.S. Oh, and can anyone say "Boy Scouts"? LOL! | ||
| Carter Simcoe (Carter) Senior Member Username: Carter Post Number: 1949 Registered: 04-2002 |
wow 10 posts, I figured it would get mentioned sooner than that | ||
| Frank Rafka (Mongosd2) New Member Username: Mongosd2 Post Number: 15 Registered: 02-2003 |
Ok James, shovel the shit and take your chances... on the 3 beers...know your tolerance, smell beer, going to jail (from a cop friend)...I don't have a weak backbone, I'll back up anything I say. I don't post bullshit...so please temper your post with the truth and you won't get bashed. By the way, I'm not a fucking retard and I've climbed both Denali and Aconcagua, that's about 40,000 feet of mountain and I teach Ice Climbing...Get a grip, don't post bullshit and maybe you'll learn something by hanging out here... Frank Klye, sorry to hear about your loss... Greg, that was REALLY Funny | ||
| R. B. Bailey (Rover50987) Senior Member Username: Rover50987 Post Number: 294 Registered: 07-2002 |
I had a simple water leak in my DI that got water into the foot well of the drivers side - took a year to dry out because I use the truck every day so I couldn't very well leave the doors open with a fan blowing on it 24 hours a day. Anyway, there is an inch thick foam rubber pad under the carpet, if you don't get that dry you will start getting corrosion and mold. It will not dry on it's own, you have to work at it or cut it out and deal with it. That's why I won't push it on a water crossing - just too much trouble if something goes wrong. Kyle - you're ranting, but I think - If I'm reading you right - you are right. This site has literally saved me a LOT of money just because of the insite and wisdom of the "old timers" I don't want to really get into the whole Land Rover Culture vs. White Trash FJ-40 Rock Crawlers Anti-Culture... but sometimes some people on this site... Anyway. As far as wheeling is concerned, I like to have fun, push the limits a little, see some good scenery - but I have no interest in spending my money on fixing something that broke because I was stupid. Enough stuff just brakes on it's own without my help. Let alone the fact that you have about 30 seconds before you are hypothermic in water like that - the beer probably made it unnoticable though, so it must have been alright. To each his own, just don't put someone else through trouble because of your stupidity. http://landrover.mrbaileyshistory.net | ||
| Greg (Gparrish) Senior Member Username: Gparrish Post Number: 1081 Registered: 04-2002 |
This one time.... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . at band camp... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . I stuck my... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Rover in a River. | ||
| Zak Ruck (Zak) Senior Member Username: Zak Post Number: 403 Registered: 07-2002 |
Damn Greg, I was thinking the same thing. Too scary. | ||
| TPH (Snowman) Senior Member Username: Snowman Post Number: 259 Registered: 12-2002 |
Zak- Get another car yet? S- | ||
| Sus (Susannah) Senior Member Username: Susannah Post Number: 411 Registered: 06-2002 |
Greg, You win the WITTY award today! | ||
| Evan Price (The_big_daddy) New Member Username: The_big_daddy Post Number: 2 Registered: 02-2003 |
I stuck my rover in a river.. a guy with a rainbow sticker on his bumper pulled me out... I said thanks for yanking me ! Greg don't you think its time for the MORON picture , you know the one ... Evan | ||
| Ron Brown (Ron) Member Username: Ron Post Number: 91 Registered: 04-2001 |
If you close all the doors and run the heater on high with the AC turned on in a few hours the interior will be dry. Do it asap of it starts to mildew Ron PS don't ask how I know | ||
| R. B. Bailey (Rover50987) Senior Member Username: Rover50987 Post Number: 301 Registered: 07-2002 |
Ya, I tried that, but it does not actually dry out the rubber mat underneath; it is virtually sealed. If you take up the carpet and feel under the rubber mat between the metal floor, it will still be wet. It actually has a hard edge to it and is screwed down tight - no way for air to circulate, but water can get in behind the brake, gas, and clutch pedals. So you need to make sure you take up the mat and dry underneath it or it will be wet for a very long time. | ||
| Kyle Van Tassel (Kyle) Moderator Username: Kyle Post Number: 35 Registered: 11-2002 |
Dont waste your time posting to James , he can no longer respond.... Kyle "Blow me" | ||
| Will Bobbitt (Rkores) Member Username: Rkores Post Number: 201 Registered: 09-2002 |
I had a feeling that would happen Will | ||
| Rans (Rans) Senior Member Username: Rans Post Number: 358 Registered: 08-2002 |
What was Axels comment once before? Something about not fucking with the powers to be? Poor James, he had no idea that crossing that stream at somewhere between 2am and 3:30am would cost him his membership at Dweb. See folks, it IS dangerous!! | ||
| John Moore (Jmoore) Senior Member Username: Jmoore Post Number: 421 Registered: 10-2002 |
A flame war is just not fun until somebody get's their IP blocked! | ||
| B-Mc (Mcartist) Member Username: Mcartist Post Number: 58 Registered: 05-2002 |
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| Kyle Van Tassel (Kyle) Moderator Username: Kyle Post Number: 46 Registered: 11-2002 |
He sent a mail wondering why he got blocked as well...... Kyle "Blow me" | ||
| Kevin Howell (Kevinhowell) New Member Username: Kevinhowell Post Number: 12 Registered: 02-2003 |
B-Mc, you absolutely rock! man, i wish i had your photoshop skills. | ||
| Andy Thoma (Andythoma) Member Username: Andythoma Post Number: 51 Registered: 01-2003 |
At least we can hope that he learned a lesson about being truthful even on an internet post, and not to be an ass to the moderators. | ||
| B-Mc (Mcartist) Member Username: Mcartist Post Number: 59 Registered: 05-2002 |
thanks Kevin... I cant spell for shit so I try to make up for it in picts. | ||
| Zak Ruck (Zak) Senior Member Username: Zak Post Number: 404 Registered: 07-2002 |
Hey Thom, Well, yeah we finally got a car. Most of the people will shoot me, but I found an indcredible deal on a 2000 SAAB 9-3. It had every option I wanted, cloth, moonroof and stick. We got it for about 6 grand under book value, and they gave us a great apr as well. So, it's not the Golf TDI, but hopefully it'll last me a while. What about you? And so sorry to hear about Mr. G being IP blocked. I was so looking foward to meeting this little punk on a nice GWNF trip and beating the.... well you know. | ||
| Eric N (Grnrvr) Senior Member Username: Grnrvr Post Number: 1241 Registered: 02-2002 |
I have wheeled with James before. He is a nice guy and I would wheel with him again. Think what you guys want to but, when I was wheeling with him and some others he didn't come across as some drunk little kid that you are all making him out to be. Just my 2 cents. | ||
| Enoch Snyder (Esnyder) New Member Username: Esnyder Post Number: 9 Registered: 10-2002 |
After years of lurking on D-Web, I've learned when to duck, and who not to piss off (read: Kyle). I would, however, second Eric's most recent post. I have wheeled and hung out with James as well, and he is not really at all like he's being made out to be (nor really like his own posts made him out to be!) I don't have much tolerance for punk kids either, I just don't talk about it as much as some. I don't feel like James falls into that category. I would give him a cooling off period and then let him get back on D-Web, because prior to now, his comments/input/questions have all been pretty level-headed. But that ain't my decision to make. I, as a respectful moocher of D-Web from Kyle, Axel, and Ho's work on this site, am not questioning Kyle's decision to give him the boot. Live by the sword, die by the sword. | ||
| Kyle Van Tassel (Kyle) Moderator Username: Kyle Post Number: 48 Registered: 11-2002 |
Enoch , I left it in his hands.... Kyle "Blow me" | ||
| Zak Ruck (Zak) Senior Member Username: Zak Post Number: 405 Registered: 07-2002 |
Or live as Greg P does and swallow the sword..... (Not that there is anything wrong with that) | ||
| Evan Price (The_big_daddy) New Member Username: The_big_daddy Post Number: 3 Registered: 02-2003 |
Right...wrong...indifferent ... Its their board, not a democracy... If you're going to play be prepared to pay Don't you mean Garrett ,Zak ? | ||
| gp (Garrett) Senior Member Username: Garrett Post Number: 1853 Registered: 10-2001 |
no evan he doesn't. new member. haha | ||
| Zak Ruck (Zak) Senior Member Username: Zak Post Number: 406 Registered: 07-2002 |
No Evan, Garrett is more interested in what comes out on the back side. | ||
| Greg (Gparrish) Senior Member Username: Gparrish Post Number: 1085 Registered: 04-2002 |
Hey bitch, don't be accusing me of swallowing any swords. Besides, when are you going to admit that it was you in the picture with the RR and the tailpipe, Zak???????? | ||
| Andy Thoma (Andythoma) Member Username: Andythoma Post Number: 57 Registered: 01-2003 |
Wow, this thread went from a real question with an outlandish story. To a flame war on bull shitting, to sword swallowing and that imfamous tailpipe picture. I love dweb... | ||
| Rob Davison (Nosivad_bor) Senior Member Username: Nosivad_bor Post Number: 88 Registered: 02-2003 |
yes, it always ends up in the gutter and garrett blabbing away.... rd | ||
| James (Jimmyg) Member Username: Jimmyg Post Number: 142 Registered: 10-2002 |
I thank Enoch and Eric for the kind words. I apologize to those I blew up at irrationally. I do stick to the fact that my first post is the truth with some dramatic, yet truthful narration. | ||
| Axel Haakonsen (Axel) Moderator Username: Axel Post Number: 54 Registered: 02-2003 |
Whatever.  Click picture to visit the store |
