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Anthony Low (Bones)
New Member Username: Bones
Post Number: 1 Registered: 03-2003
| Posted on Monday, March 03, 2003 - 03:42 pm: |
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I am going to mount my WARN 8000 winch on a winch under carriage mount. Any suggestions as to what to do if i want skid plates/axel guards on the front near it? or is there no way to protect it ? |
   
Brian Friend (Brianfriend)
Senior Member Username: Brianfriend
Post Number: 464 Registered: 09-2002
| Posted on Monday, March 03, 2003 - 05:16 pm: |
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Anthony, If I visualize this properly you are going to use a stock lr winch carrage? You probably won't need skid plates. The things you will wan't to protect are the diffs. I think the winch set up you are descibing will efectively keep you from banging your drag link or panhard rod. The rear track rod is another story though. That pesky steering dampner will reach out and grab rocks if you are not carefull. I finally took mine off completely but a relocation is a better solution. |
   
Anthony Low (Bones)
New Member Username: Bones
Post Number: 2 Registered: 03-2003
| Posted on Monday, March 03, 2003 - 05:43 pm: |
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Thanks for the advice. The only reason i wanted to add some protection was just cuz i was worried about what others have told me and how under carriage winch mounts are more susceptible to damage. Why is diff. protection so much more important than other undercarriage parts? |
   
Carter Simcoe (Carter)
Senior Member Username: Carter
Post Number: 1993 Registered: 04-2002
| Posted on Monday, March 03, 2003 - 06:23 pm: |
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Brian, he's talking about the hidden mount like you get at www.dap-inc.com We were talking on AIM earlier, I'm still trying to convince him to get a bumper........  |
   
Brian Friend (Brianfriend)
Senior Member Username: Brianfriend
Post Number: 465 Registered: 09-2002
| Posted on Monday, March 03, 2003 - 06:26 pm: |
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Well you are likely to hit your diff on a rock that you are able to clear with your winch. your aproach angle because of the lower winch tray will be lower than your steering componants and a skid plate in the front will reduce your approach angle even more and it will only protect the drag link. I would recomend bypasing the skid all together and ivesting in a heavy duty drag link that won't reduce your aproach but will be able to take some good hits. (save you some $ too) Diff protection is more important because of the cost to repair and the disabilitating effect of a broken diff. The steering componants can easily be replaced or straightened on the trail. |
   
Anthony Low (Bones)
New Member Username: Bones
Post Number: 5 Registered: 03-2003
| Posted on Monday, March 03, 2003 - 08:01 pm: |
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Thanks guys. I did find out that the steering bars are much less expensive than differntials. I got my rover back today after 2 weeks in the body shop. Got in a little fender bender, but had everything paid for by the woman who hit me. She was 100% at fault. :-)
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Anthony Low (Bones)
New Member Username: Bones
Post Number: 8 Registered: 03-2003
| Posted on Monday, March 03, 2003 - 08:21 pm: |
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Now if i do go out and a buy a winch, some sits are claiming that you have to get new shocks, because it weighs the car down so much. I was looking at a WARN8000. I do light to moderate off roading. Nothing the aussie's do, just a guy in the back woods of MA. Help. |
   
Brian Friend (Brianfriend)
Senior Member Username: Brianfriend
Post Number: 467 Registered: 09-2002
| Posted on Monday, March 03, 2003 - 08:51 pm: |
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Thanks Carter I just checked it out. Looks like you won't lose any clearance from a completely stock bumper yes? If you don't change springs you are probably still ok with that type of set up. The real weight comes from bumper and winch combined. I would still probably do the springs though...and, hmmmm, since I am spending Anthony's money I would probably go with a bigger winch too. At least a 9k. And by the way, Anthony, since I am spending your money can I buy some stuff for my truck too? |
   
Carter Simcoe (Carter)
Senior Member Username: Carter
Post Number: 1999 Registered: 04-2002
| Posted on Monday, March 03, 2003 - 09:48 pm: |
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well yes and no Brian, since the winch mounts where the stock airdamn would be you loose clearance if from what you would have running a trimmed bumper (like most people do offroad). Plus you need to consider how far back that thing is going to stick. |
   
Brian Friend (Brianfriend)
Senior Member Username: Brianfriend
Post Number: 471 Registered: 09-2002
| Posted on Monday, March 03, 2003 - 09:56 pm: |
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yes I was thinking that it wouldn't ruin your aproach angle against a stock uncut bumper. And it sounds like he wants to keep the stock look. Carter, if you respond to this you are at 2k posts. |
   
Anthony Low (Bones)
New Member Username: Bones
Post Number: 9 Registered: 03-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, March 04, 2003 - 08:38 pm: |
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Stock look isnt too important. And since you are spending my money, I will think twice about asking you. :-) haha jk. Also, What is a drag link? someone suggested i put that on rather than a skid plate? |
   
Anthony Low (Bones)
New Member Username: Bones
Post Number: 10 Registered: 03-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, March 04, 2003 - 08:40 pm: |
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Stock look isnt too important. And since you are spending my money, I will think twice about asking you. :-) haha jk. Also, What is a drag link? someone suggested i put that on rather than a skid plate? |
   
Evan (Bahnstorm)
New Member Username: Bahnstorm
Post Number: 1 Registered: 03-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, March 04, 2003 - 09:33 pm: |
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I came across this site while looking for a discreet winch solution. http://www.texasrovers.com/discreet_winch.htm Evan |
   
Brian Friend (Brianfriend)
Senior Member Username: Brianfriend
Post Number: 490 Registered: 09-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, March 04, 2003 - 09:34 pm: |
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Drag link is the rear rod that your steering dampner hooks too. I carry spares because it gets bent all the time. |
   
Anthony Low (Bones)
New Member Username: Bones
Post Number: 13 Registered: 03-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, March 04, 2003 - 10:05 pm: |
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Thanks for the link Evan. It also mentions ARB bumper twisting, as well as decreased approach angles. Is this true? |
   
Chris Browne (Chris_browne)
New Member Username: Chris_browne
Post Number: 11 Registered: 02-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, March 05, 2003 - 06:26 pm: |
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Anthony: Doesn't the price on the 8k look good v 9k winch, but having seem 8k winches balk at recovering a rover on a slight incline I cannot recommend an 8k winch. Why not consider installing a front end receiver, and using a multimount set up? That way you don't need to get into replacing springs etc.....which I reckon you will one day... |
   
Brian Friend (Brianfriend)
Senior Member Username: Brianfriend
Post Number: 493 Registered: 09-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, March 05, 2003 - 07:27 pm: |
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I used a multi mount for a long time. Works just fine but decresses your aproach ange. A lot of guys don't like them because it is kind of impracticle to take the thing on and off but I just left mine on. I bought mine because I didn't have the funds for both a bumper and the winch and I consider a winch one of the most important mods on your truck. |
   
Anthony Low (Bones)
New Member Username: Bones
Post Number: 14 Registered: 03-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, March 05, 2003 - 08:10 pm: |
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Brian, explain to me what exactly you did to mod your truck. My funds are kinda short, me going away to college next year and all. I want a powerful winch and a strong support for it. Suggestions? |
   
Brian Friend (Brianfriend)
Senior Member Username: Brianfriend
Post Number: 495 Registered: 09-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, March 05, 2003 - 10:25 pm: |
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Shoot me an e-mail and tomarow I will send you back some pics. But in the mean time check out independance in the photo gallery there are pics showing the winch both on and off. |