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Adam Zerr (Adamjenzerr)
New Member Username: Adamjenzerr
Post Number: 3 Registered: 02-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, March 04, 2003 - 03:05 pm: |
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Where are the best front recovery points in a a stock DI with a brush bar |
   
gp (Garrett)
Senior Member Username: Garrett
Post Number: 1894 Registered: 10-2001
| Posted on Tuesday, March 04, 2003 - 03:16 pm: |
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there are none. ok. well when i was in stock form i hung D shackles from the loops on the brush bar. first off really crank on those frame bolts on the brush bar....damn thing loves to rotate up and that is bad. but if you use BOTH loops off the stock brush guard during a recovery that is your best bet. spread the load. but always be as gentle as you can. i would not be snatching hard with ropes or straps. other people have installed jate rings on the frame. another good option. bill gill has lots of stock recovery stories i am sure. |
   
Paul T. Schram (Paulschram)
Senior Member Username: Paulschram
Post Number: 1086 Registered: 02-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, March 04, 2003 - 03:21 pm: |
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SEARCH!!! Damned newbies, good thing this isn't the Pirate Board. |
   
Adam Zerr (Adamjenzerr)
New Member Username: Adamjenzerr
Post Number: 4 Registered: 02-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, March 04, 2003 - 03:30 pm: |
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Sorry i have been on here a while if you have problems with people asking questions maybe you shouldent be on here |
   
Chris Merritt (Smokinbro)
Member Username: Smokinbro
Post Number: 67 Registered: 08-2001
| Posted on Tuesday, March 04, 2003 - 05:14 pm: |
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hey paul - you were a 'newbie' once as well (about 1082 posts ago). give the guy a break |
   
Paul T. Schram (Paulschram)
Senior Member Username: Paulschram
Post Number: 1089 Registered: 02-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, March 05, 2003 - 08:19 am: |
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Look down- less than a week ago, this very same question was asked and answered. I'm equally certain that if one were to look even further, one would find many, many times this question has been answered. Recovery points are a critical component for anyone who even thinks they may be going off-road, and in some cases, on-road. Should we encourage folks to not look for an answer, or merely continue answering the same questions repeatedly? Isn't this why there is a search function? While I realize that someone may have a new and unique approach to a subject, in too many cases, we flog dead horses until they are little more than a bloody spot in the road. My god, I've been flamed for far less. While I was once a virgin at many things, having learned to read at a very young age has helped me immeasurably. Where is Kyle with his inimitable manner of responding to such posts when we need him? Adam-if you've been on here a while, have you purchased videotapes, shirts or stickers? I have little use for the tapes, but have bought a pile of stickers and will be buying a t-shirt soon to continue supporting a resource that has helped me immeasurably. Flame away, I have my flame suit on! Peace, Paul |
   
Eugene (Eugene)
New Member Username: Eugene
Post Number: 5 Registered: 02-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, March 05, 2003 - 08:54 am: |
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Adam, I've also been researching recovery points this week. If you go to the Message Archives --> 2002 Archives - Technical --> Discovery, there are about a dozen threads on recovery. Most people seem to agree that there are no good front recovery points in the stock configuration. Lots of people ended up installing front shackles mounted to the frame. Good luck, -ema |
   
Adam Zerr (Adamjenzerr)
New Member Username: Adamjenzerr
Post Number: 5 Registered: 02-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, March 05, 2003 - 09:35 am: |
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sorry everyone for such a stupid question. i wilol pick my questions more carfully from now on. I will also learn to read (thanks Paul). |
   
Brian Dickens (Bri)
Member Username: Bri
Post Number: 230 Registered: 08-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, March 05, 2003 - 10:13 am: |
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First way is to use those silly little tie downs that are welded to the frame of the vehicle. I believe that they are for tiedowns in transit. They will bend and possible break (mine did not break). On some events they refuse to use them, but if you always use both of them, they work unless you have to be snatched. Jate rings are cheap and mount to the frame. Can likely do this front and back. http://www.discountrovers.com/Specials/specials.html Also get something for the rear receiver hitch that includes a D Ring. Likely you will be out about $75 and have good recovery points. Next step up would involve HD bumpers. |
   
Paul T. Schram (Paulschram)
Senior Member Username: Paulschram
Post Number: 1090 Registered: 02-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, March 05, 2003 - 02:25 pm: |
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Adam: Clearly, I did not mean to offend you, nor insult your ability to read. Must have been having a bad day. Trust me, if you have a real problem and I can help, I will. As for your front recovery point, do not use the tie down points on the frame-you may break one and it is not a pretty sight to see someone who has caught a chain, tow strap, etc in the face. Likewise, I do not sugggest you use the lugs on your factory brush bar. I have seen the brush bars rotate up and nearly crush the hood. I have seen pics of hoods badly damaged. If you wish to copy my approach, I ran a 1/2" bolt through the reinforced hole in the frame where the steering gear would bolt on a RHD vehicle and ran a one foot piece of chain through the bolt. Some (who will remain namelss) call it ghetto, but it works, has worked, and presumably will again in the future. Total cost-$5.00. You can do the same for the rear, although, I have access to open-head drum retaining ring bolts and I merely run those through the hitch retaining bolt hole and hook a short piece of chain with a grab hook on one end through the bolt. Cost, even cheaper! Good luck, Paul |
   
Wes Munch (Wes_munch)
New Member Username: Wes_munch
Post Number: 1 Registered: 03-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, March 05, 2003 - 03:18 pm: |
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Paul, Sorry but I much prefer the "bad day Paul" to the lovey touchy feeley version. Wes |
   
Paul T. Schram (Paulschram)
Senior Member Username: Paulschram
Post Number: 1092 Registered: 02-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, March 05, 2003 - 03:46 pm: |
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It's all Perrone's fault! |
   
Adam Zerr (Adamjenzerr)
New Member Username: Adamjenzerr
Post Number: 7 Registered: 02-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, March 05, 2003 - 03:48 pm: |
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paul thank you very much. from now on i will look through the archives first |
   
Paul T. Schram (Paulschram)
Senior Member Username: Paulschram
Post Number: 1094 Registered: 02-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, March 05, 2003 - 04:14 pm: |
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Adam; If I can get the digi camera away from my wife, I'll post some pics of my recovery points for you. Peace, Paul |
   
Prescottj (Prescottj)
Senior Member Username: Prescottj
Post Number: 393 Registered: 12-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, March 05, 2003 - 04:26 pm: |
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I want pictures of the superhero 02 sensors you have |
   
Paul T. Schram (Paulschram)
Senior Member Username: Paulschram
Post Number: 1096 Registered: 02-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, March 05, 2003 - 06:36 pm: |
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Those sensors are still going strong. Made arrangements at work to borrow a dual trace oscilloscope so I can see just what they are up to. Yeah, CB I know, no other excuse. Peace, Paul |