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eric johnson (Eric)
New Member Username: Eric
Post Number: 1 Registered: 03-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, March 04, 2003 - 11:22 pm: |
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On another board, I posted that the Mallory dizzy would be a better choice than the Lucas, 'cuz, for example, it won't break when you try to remove the rotor. I got a negative response about Mallory units, with one guy stating they sucked and he would never put a Mallory product in any vehicle. Anyone have similar reports? |
   
Shane (Shane)
New Member Username: Shane
Post Number: 26 Registered: 07-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, March 05, 2003 - 01:48 am: |
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haha I'm the negative guy. The module lasted just over one year. The plug wires corroded/rusted in just a few months so bad the engine wouldn't run. Try pulling the wires off the plugs and the metal end rips off wire and out of the boot. I use to be more in cars and drag racing and one of my good friends ran the mallory unilite. I thought maybe it was his install.....had to learn the hard way. |
   
Perrone Ford (Perroneford)
Member Username: Perroneford
Post Number: 48 Registered: 02-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, March 05, 2003 - 08:38 am: |
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That's interesting Shane. My friend Dave Brown has been running a Unilite in his Range Rover for several years without any of these issues. What part of the country are you in? He's in Arizona, and I'm wondering if that makes a difference. -P
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A. Ali (Alia176)
New Member Username: Alia176
Post Number: 2 Registered: 03-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, March 05, 2003 - 09:43 am: |
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If you think about it, all dizzies have weak points. The control module or optical module are all sensitive to heat, moisture, voltage spikes, high mileage etc. You can stock up on cheaper Mallory or MSD modules but pay a hefty price for a new dizzy! So, in the end I'm sticking with the stock dizzy and just renewing the innerds and keep a couple of used but good ICM (ignition control modules) in the glove box. About the best thing you can do is to remotely mount the ICM near the coil, away from the heat source. BTW, Dave isn't all that impressed with the long term service from his Unilite from what I understand. Slade doesn't like his Crane Fireball optical ignition either. |
   
Jaime (Blueboy)
Senior Member Username: Blueboy
Post Number: 568 Registered: 02-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, March 05, 2003 - 10:25 pm: |
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My RR has a Mallory and no problems. Recently changed out the module after 6 years of which 4 were in damp PA and 2 in hot/wet OK. I'm happy with it and parts are pretty easy to get. Jaime |
   
eric johnson (Eric)
New Member Username: Eric
Post Number: 2 Registered: 03-2003
| Posted on Thursday, March 06, 2003 - 10:41 am: |
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Ali, Slade should use an MSD. FYI-I've had excellent results with MSD. I had one installed in an '68 Alfa Giulia (as in julia) Super with a tired 1750 - very worn valve guides. It wouldn't pass smog in Ca. It was putting out 850 ppm of hydrocarbon, but was allowed 500 ppm. The MSD-6 reduced the hydrocarbons to just under 400 ppm - a better than 50% decrease. |
   
A. Ali (Alia176)
New Member Username: Alia176
Post Number: 5 Registered: 03-2003
| Posted on Thursday, March 06, 2003 - 11:44 am: |
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Eric, Are you talking about just a MSD dizzy or the whole coil/computer/spark control thing? I've heard similar when someone use a MSD spark control device on their 110. It improved his emission and some low end torque. |
   
David Hobbs (Ca_surveyor)
New Member Username: Ca_surveyor
Post Number: 18 Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Thursday, March 06, 2003 - 04:33 pm: |
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Eric, I used to race a '66 alfa spyder with a 1600. I had a modified mallory and had no problems. |
   
Brian Stolpa (87hprover)
New Member Username: 87hprover
Post Number: 3 Registered: 02-2003
| Posted on Saturday, March 08, 2003 - 09:48 am: |
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if your not set on mallory I have an MSD distibutor and msd 6al box also msd high vibration coil, I love the setup and all together costs cheaper then a stock rover distributor and it's much better the distributor's are made with such quality I really haven't heard bad things about them there is a reason just about any big name racer uses MSD, just food for thought. |
   
A. Ali (Alia176)
New Member Username: Alia176
Post Number: 9 Registered: 03-2003
| Posted on Sunday, March 09, 2003 - 11:49 am: |
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Brian, Are you still using the stock coil to fire the MSD unit? How does the stock ECU handle the MSD unit? Also, roughly what's the price for this setup? It sounds intriguing to me. Thanks. |
   
Bill Bettridge (Billb)
Senior Member Username: Billb
Post Number: 691 Registered: 02-2002
| Posted on Monday, March 10, 2003 - 09:58 am: |
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Brian, is your MSD mechanical advance? I couldn't find that they made a Buick V8 vacuum advance version. No big deal really once you have it set up, but just wondered. Bill
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Brian Stolpa (87hprover)
New Member Username: 87hprover
Post Number: 4 Registered: 02-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, March 11, 2003 - 09:31 pm: |
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first off the stock ignition system on any 13cu 13cux or 14cux system is completely stand alone the fuel injection is triggered off the negative side of the coil, alough for fuel injection I had to buy the msd tach adapter, the whole thing cost me around $550 roughly (distributor, MSD6OFFROADbox,MSDcoil,Tachadapter)plus my dads a tool and die maker so he modified it to work for a rover. the distributor is a mechanical distributor. don't ask me why I did it but my rover is built all out performance, so the mechanical distributor works great, next step, I have a edelbrock intake I am going to setup for MPI, get rid of the bank to bank injection |
   
Bill Bettridge (Billb)
Senior Member Username: Billb
Post Number: 696 Registered: 02-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, March 12, 2003 - 09:04 am: |
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Thanks Brian - what did you have to modify? I figured the Buick dist would drop right in? Bill
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Brian Stolpa (87hprover)
New Member Username: 87hprover
Post Number: 6 Registered: 02-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, March 12, 2003 - 06:33 pm: |
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on the buick the shaft that spins the oil pump is like a gm, like a big flat head screw driver, so I had to cut that off and turn down the od of the shaft to fit a rover distributor gear and oil pump drive, if you have a newer rover like a 95 were the oil pump is built into the front cover and run by the crank you may not have to do anything |
   
Bill Bettridge (Billb)
Senior Member Username: Billb
Post Number: 697 Registered: 02-2002
| Posted on Thursday, March 13, 2003 - 09:26 am: |
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Gotcha - thanks for the info Bill
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