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     Alan Bates (Alanb) Member Username: Alanb Post Number: 104 Registered: 07-2002 |
FYI here is an article on the Crosslander in Autoweek today: http://www.autoweek.com/cat_content.mv?port_code=autoweek&cat_code=carnews&loc_c ode=index&content_code=07376557 http://www.crosslander4x4.com/toc/ I know this is probably old news, but I thought this was a scam a couple of years ago. Interesting vehicle though. | ||
| Alan Bates (Alanb) Member Username: Alanb Post Number: 105 Registered: 07-2002 |
Here are a couple of pics:   | ||
| Paul Clawson (Pnut) New Member Username: Pnut Post Number: 34 Registered: 02-2003 |
wow, pretty cool to get a five speed diesel in an SUV in the US in the year 2003. Does anyone know what the quality is like? | ||
| Prescottj (Prescottj) Senior Member Username: Prescottj Post Number: 397 Registered: 12-2002 |
I like it. Rack, lights, brushbar, winch, steel wheels, aggressive tires, snorkel all cool  . But then there is running boards instead of rock guards  . I want one but can't afford another vehicle, hopefully there still around in 2-3 years | ||
| Carter Simcoe (Carter) Senior Member Username: Carter Post Number: 2016 Registered: 04-2002 |
Paul, there is actually someone around here who (claims he) HAS one that made its way over here from a previous attempt to get a market going in the US. Can't remember who he is, I want to say he was in Florida but couldn't post pics of the truck because he was out of town for an extended period of time when we were talking about them. -He has a rover too. Whoever you are please come forward again and bring pics this time if you can. I would really like to see some shots of the interior. I wonder if they are still going w/ the plan of selling them for under 13K, if they do they will be moving them like crazy. Oh and here: http://www.difflock.com/buyersguide/newcars/crosslander/index.shtml | ||
| Leslie N. Bright (Leslie) Senior Member Username: Leslie Post Number: 1849 Registered: 02-2002 |
Alan, It wasn't a scam; it was just difficult to succeed in importing them. (ARO, R being Romanian)... Should be a decent vehicle, especially for the money. IFS, though, but, hmm..... give one to someone like Musky, and it won' tbe for long... -L | ||
| John Moore (Jmoore) Senior Member Username: Jmoore Post Number: 456 Registered: 10-2002 |
Leslie, where did you see it had IFS? I was trying to determine by looking at the photos if there was a front diff, hard to tell. | ||
| Carter Simcoe (Carter) Senior Member Username: Carter Post Number: 2018 Registered: 04-2002 |
In some of the videos on their site a while back (might still be there) you could pretty well tell it is IFS. BUT for all I know those videos could be of a different model or something so who really knows. | ||
| gp (Garrett) Senior Member Username: Garrett Post Number: 1904 Registered: 10-2001 |
jason johnson did some checking out on the Crosslander and had some info a month or so ago. he had started a different thread. try searching for it. | ||
| Eric N (Grnrvr) Senior Member Username: Grnrvr Post Number: 1261 Registered: 02-2002 |
If you look at the pictures above you can see the lower A arms for the IFS. Last time people were talking about this they found out that it was IFS and solid rear. | ||
| Paul T. Schram (Paulschram) Senior Member Username: Paulschram Post Number: 1097 Registered: 02-2002 |
I saw one over Christmas. The truck was being displayed at a local DCX dealer in hopes the dealership would take them on as a product line. The guys at the dealer were more interested in my Discovery than the crosslander. It does have IFS. Looks kinda cool, but I'm not certain it is as rugged as they want it to look. Haven't seen the truck since, nor have I heard anything from anyone about it in spite of having given them a business card indicating Rovers. Peace, Paul | ||
| TPH (Snowman) Senior Member Username: Snowman Post Number: 282 Registered: 12-2002 |
Carter- 13K!! Are you sure about that price? I just cannot imagine anything worthwhile at that cost. S- | ||
| Paul Clawson (Pnut) New Member Username: Pnut Post Number: 35 Registered: 02-2003 |
the website said they would start around 17,000.00 which is still cheap, but you have to wonder...are they offering the snorkel, winch roof rack etc for that price? It would almost be too good to be true. I'll have to admit, when I first saw it, I thought that land rover had repackaged the Defender so we in the US could buy one. If they end up being as rugged as they look it could be a back up if ford destroys land rover over the next few years. I heard The range rover is going to receive the jagUar V6 when the BMW contract is up on those incredible V8's. Not long after that, the disco is supposed to get the platform the new range rover has along with the Jaguar V6 engine. If they are worthwile, I don't think that price will last long | ||
| Gil Stevens (Gil) Member Username: Gil Post Number: 215 Registered: 02-2002 |
"I heard The range rover is going to receive the jagUar V6" the range rover will never get a V6. One of these "crosslanders" was just on ebay in Florida. It was in "aro" form, from back in the mid-90s. It got like 50 bids and went in the $4000 range. | ||
| Paul Clawson (Pnut) New Member Username: Pnut Post Number: 36 Registered: 02-2003 |
I hope you are right. obviously its just a rumour now. The plant for the crosslander is in Brazil. Brazil is also where that new powerstroke diesel is made that ECR is advertising. | ||
| gp (Garrett) Senior Member Username: Garrett Post Number: 1905 Registered: 10-2001 |
i just got off the phone with a Cross Lander rep that will be sending me a bunch of info on the truck and the dealerships. they will be starting around $18K and will sell with all the options (winch, lights, etc) for about $21K. parts will be made in Romania and the trucks will be assembled in Brazil. i will have more info went i get my packet of info. asked who made the engine and he was not sure. yikes. but the rest of the info can be seen at http://www.crosslander4x4.com | ||
| Alyssa Brown (Alyssa) New Member Username: Alyssa Post Number: 24 Registered: 01-2003 |
We sent away for the info, and it was one photocopied sheet that had no new information on it. Maybe they'll send better stuff now? That was 2 months ago. | ||
| Carter Simcoe (Carter) Senior Member Username: Carter Post Number: 2019 Registered: 04-2002 |
I thought I remembered them saying 13K at one point, maybe it was 17K. Regardless, it doesn't matter if it flexes like a box car they are going to sell a crap load of them for $18-21K. It would be a cool car for running around town if nothing else. | ||
| Will Bobbitt (Rkores) Member Username: Rkores Post Number: 219 Registered: 09-2002 |
I doubt it would be to hard to put a straight axle up front...I have no Idea what the diminsions are. But I am sure there is something that will work. I talked to the closest dealer a few weeks ago, and he said that he would call me once they got them in early summer. I really want to see one in person. Actually I wouldn't mind finding one in a junk yard here in a few years and ganking the engine out of it Will | ||
| TPH (Snowman) Senior Member Username: Snowman Post Number: 286 Registered: 12-2002 |
The 13K was wishful thinking. I really like it and hope they get a dealership in New England. On another post I questioned the quality but someone else mentioned that Brazil has a good reputation in the automotive market. Honestly whenever I think Brazil I just think of beautiful women and coffee. S- | ||
| travis (97reddisco) New Member Username: 97reddisco Post Number: 40 Registered: 07-2002 |
Hey carter that was me that has the ARO ive tryed to get my mom to find pics but its hard to tell someone over the phone were they are. I will be back in jax on april 15. and i can post pics. my dad is trying to sell it because we have to many suv's now. mine is a 1995 qwith 46,xxx miles. i will sell it for $5000.00 or work something out. Email me if you have any ?'s or want my # and talk about the truck. Travis 97 Disco | ||
| Carter Simcoe (Carter) Senior Member Username: Carter Post Number: 2020 Registered: 04-2002 |
he he, maybe if I had 5K....... Nah, I just find the trucks intersting and hope that if they are infact sold in the US it will 'force' the Defenders, Patrols, adn the like to get over here as well. | ||
| Alan Bates (Alanb) Member Username: Alanb Post Number: 106 Registered: 07-2002 |
Good point Carter, everybody else in the world gets those cool true off-road capable trucks that you see on TV and magazines, without all the fluff that our wannabe SUV's have. I like the crossland concept because of its simplicity and price, back to basics. | ||
| John Paschal (John_p) New Member Username: John_p Post Number: 3 Registered: 02-2003 |
Ok, why the hell is there a Cross Lander dealership in my hometown? We've got like 12,000 people in our city. I don't think many of them will be interested unless it's got a power take-off and will replace the john deere tractor. anyway, when i go home for spring break I'll check too and see if i can get any pictures to post. | ||
| gp (Garrett) Senior Member Username: Garrett Post Number: 1907 Registered: 10-2001 |
they will be importing about 6000 the first year into the US. | ||
| Greg (Gparrish) Senior Member Username: Gparrish Post Number: 1106 Registered: 04-2002 |
Garrett, there isn't a single dealer in the entire Delaware Valley area. For that matter, north of Virgina, there isn't a single dealer. Sounds like an opportunity to me........ | ||
| Carter Simcoe (Carter) Senior Member Username: Carter Post Number: 2024 Registered: 04-2002 |
For real Greg, I wish I was in the position to open up a dealership. These things might not be the best offroad but they should sell pretty well, look at how many Xterras there are out there and these things are much more bad-ass looking than one of those. | ||
| Alan Bates (Alanb) Member Username: Alanb Post Number: 108 Registered: 07-2002 |
They look like something the Russian army drove around for 20 years, definetly not a poser like the Xterra. | ||
| gp (Garrett) Senior Member Username: Garrett Post Number: 1910 Registered: 10-2001 |
greg. i will have the package here once i get back from Florida. (10 days) if you will be at Robesonia i will have it there. hopefully it will have more than what Alyssa was sent. i am looking into it for now. lots going on right now. we shall see. off to Florida and the Keys!! catch ya all later. | ||
| Greg (Gparrish) Senior Member Username: Gparrish Post Number: 1112 Registered: 04-2002 |
Cool. Sounds good. gp | ||
| R. B. Bailey (Rover50987) Senior Member Username: Rover50987 Post Number: 379 Registered: 07-2002 |
It does look a little bit Ruskie-ish. A big plus is the Diesel. At the very least, if it is successful, maybe it will prompt companies like LR, and Toyota to import thier Defender's and Troop Carrier 78's | ||
| gp (Garrett) Senior Member Username: Garrett Post Number: 1911 Registered: 10-2001 |
just read a small article in AutoWeek. IH is making the engine. | ||
| todd slater (Toddslater) Member Username: Toddslater Post Number: 233 Registered: 08-2002 |
Whats all the questioning of build quality...??? glass houses comes to mind. For 18k with a diesel and 5sp and all kinds of stuff...I can't wait to get a good look at one up close. | ||
| Ron Brown (Ron) Member Username: Ron Post Number: 127 Registered: 04-2001 |
Greg, could you imagine how those things would sell on the Main Line. Ron | ||
| Greg (Gparrish) Senior Member Username: Gparrish Post Number: 1116 Registered: 04-2002 |
Very well I think. Wonder how much moollah it would take to get a dealership going? | ||
| Andrew Clarke (Aclarke) Senior Member Username: Aclarke Post Number: 310 Registered: 10-2002 |
Interesting link my friend sent me: http://forums.rennlist.com/cgi-bin/rennforums/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=next_topic;f=23;t=000309;go=newer Funny how the Porsche owners say they'd rather spend $17,000 on a Crosslander than get a Cayenne. Or how one guys says he'd like to get the Crosslander and put in the "Big Rover V8" while we're talking about taking the diesel and putting it in our Discos. | ||
| todd slater (Toddslater) Member Username: Toddslater Post Number: 241 Registered: 08-2002 |
No one ever said Porsche owners are the sharpest tool in the shed. Well, at least they figured out $17k and a crosslander is better than ground hot pepper. | ||
| Mark & Bev Preston (Markp) Member Username: Markp Post Number: 154 Registered: 02-2002 |
The engine is suppose to be the 2.8L International. Here's a link to the HS version: http://www.britrest.com/HS28L.htm A little pricey, but if I found a good condition RR Classic that needs a engine, that might not be a bad strategy. Now wondering about emissions and legality in the US ..... - Mark | ||
| Mike Dougherty (Mikedougherty) New Member Username: Mikedougherty Post Number: 7 Registered: 01-2003 |
I'm not going to take offense to that Todd, 'cause I know you meant PCNA not actually Porsche *owners*. After all many Porsche owners also own a Land Rover. I am surprised that there hasn't been a lot of discussion in about the Cayenne here though. I've only seen two threads that mention it. Maybe you guys are waiting for it to actually appear on the streets before the bashing begins. Won't be long now, I saw a post that a dealer in Boston has this months allocation already. /mike | ||
| gp (Garrett) Senior Member Username: Garrett Post Number: 1912 Registered: 10-2001 |
well i am still in Florida but was hanging out with the folks at LR Ft. Lauderdale and someone there told me the Cross Lander folks are having issues. guess they have not passed EPA or of few other federal agencies AOK. that and they have taken $$ for dealerships and then leaving them high and dry. again this is just what i heard from one person at that dealership after having lunch with him and BSing in general. a little more weary of them now. sounds too good to be true right? haha. | ||
| todd slater (Toddslater) Member Username: Toddslater Post Number: 243 Registered: 08-2002 |
Mike, Glad to hear your not taking offense...technically I could have also been offending myself (72 911T) ....Anyone want to buy it ? And if the PCNA folks you mentioned are those real pukey types that need no further description... then thats definitely who I meant. | ||
| Christopher Doyle (Doyle) New Member Username: Doyle Post Number: 2 Registered: 03-2003 |
Supposedly NAFTA is somewhat helping to pave the road for importation. I emailed the contact that they have on their site about 2 weeks ago, but have not had a response yet. I have not gotten around to calling. It does have an IFS front, a 2.8 liter turbo diesel made by International, and an Eaton transmission (same as Volvo). I also thought about the possibility of a dealer in the Delaware Valley area. Being from South Jersey and seeing a lot of H1's, D90's, and H2's, I would think the "rugged" look would do quite well, especially in that price range. I hope it makes it's way to our shores as the diversity will liven things up a bit. Chris |
