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Corey (Discobro)
Member Username: Discobro
Post Number: 84 Registered: 12-2002
| Posted on Sunday, March 09, 2003 - 12:50 am: |
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I'm wondering how LR genuine parts compare with after market brands, specifically things such as filters, plugs, etc.. |
   
Land Rover Certified Used A**hole (Jason)
Senior Member Username: Jason
Post Number: 339 Registered: 04-2002
| Posted on Sunday, March 09, 2003 - 02:50 am: |
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Mainly, LR genuine parts are more expensive than aftermarket parts. FWIW, the majority of LR genuine parts are aftermarket parts in a "LR genuine parts" box. LR only makes a small percentage of the actual vehicle, such as the block, crank, heads, chassis, axle housings/suspension parts, body and panels, and the like; and, of course, they assemble the vehicle. It works this way for all auto companies. There are only a handful of huge manufacturers making each individual part supplying most auto-makers. Everything from ignition to brake parts, bearings to ancillaries. So, the question is, are the LR choice of supplier for their genuine parts of better quality than the source of your aftermarket part. Maybe...but do you even know if the two are necessarily different? (BTW, over time, LR even changes the genuine parts...e.g. a 91-93 RR fuel pump is a different part number now than it was years ago...same spec's, different manufacturer?) |
   
Tom V (Cozmo)
Member Username: Cozmo
Post Number: 116 Registered: 09-2002
| Posted on Sunday, March 09, 2003 - 09:19 am: |
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Jason sounds like you've been talking with George at Rovers Down South. The only problem I've had with non-genuine parts is they don't come in that cool white box. |
   
Land Rover Certified Used A**hole (Jason)
Senior Member Username: Jason
Post Number: 341 Registered: 04-2002
| Posted on Sunday, March 09, 2003 - 12:00 pm: |
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I've actually never talked with or done business with George...he's been recommended, however. If you are at a crossroad with somebody recommending a Genuine LR part, ask if it comes with a warranty...if not, then where is the guarantee it is a better part? FWIW, buy the genuine LR dizzy cap (the blue ones); the rumors are the black aftermarket caps use carbon as a pigment and can lead to conductance through the cap (so friends have told me...) |
   
Corey (Discobro)
Member Username: Discobro
Post Number: 88 Registered: 12-2002
| Posted on Sunday, March 09, 2003 - 01:17 pm: |
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Thanks for the info... That answers my question. BTW - are the oil filters ("genuine" LR) different from say Lucas or K&N? I have heard that K&N is top quality but why? What makes them different? |
   
Brian Friend (Brianfriend)
Senior Member Username: Brianfriend
Post Number: 510 Registered: 09-2002
| Posted on Sunday, March 09, 2003 - 01:28 pm: |
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What is a "dizzy Cap"? |
   
Corey (Discobro)
Member Username: Discobro
Post Number: 91 Registered: 12-2002
| Posted on Sunday, March 09, 2003 - 01:44 pm: |
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My homey's gonna dizzy yo cap! Or is it cap yo dizzy? Dizzo - peace out. |
   
Nathan Cooper (Cooper)
New Member Username: Cooper
Post Number: 27 Registered: 10-2002
| Posted on Sunday, March 09, 2003 - 03:10 pm: |
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Brian, I think he's refering to the Distributor cap. I think? |
   
Land Rover Certified Used A**hole (Jason)
Senior Member Username: Jason
Post Number: 342 Registered: 04-2002
| Posted on Sunday, March 09, 2003 - 04:54 pm: |
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Sorry...yes I am referring to the distributor. Old habit...we'll see how long it takes Kyle to turn "dizzy" into ""!!! |
   
thom mathie (Muskyman)
Senior Member Username: Muskyman
Post Number: 191 Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Sunday, March 09, 2003 - 05:42 pm: |
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well blue cap black cap it dosent much matter...all the caps I seam to find have aluminum posts....what cheap crap! anybody know it there is a brass terminal cap out there?
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Reed Cotton (Reedcotton)
New Member Username: Reedcotton
Post Number: 34 Registered: 01-2003
| Posted on Sunday, March 09, 2003 - 09:33 pm: |
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Regarding Genuine Parts - FWIW When I was a poor college student my 88 was a daily driver. I couldn't afford to outlay the cash all at once for Genuine parts, so I bought OEM. Later when I was gainfully employeed I was able to purchase the LR parts and though the parts were initially expensive, my actual maintenance costs went down, as the parts (like water pumps) were lasting a lot longer. The reliability of my truck went way up so short trips were not quite so adventurous. Thats my story with a Series. (For the series, alot of the OEM parts were manufactured in places where quality control was not a concept.) With my Disco, I just shop around, for the best price on Genuine. Though I use Mobil 1 oil filters as they are convienient. -Reed |
   
Paul T. Schram (Paulschram)
Senior Member Username: Paulschram
Post Number: 1103 Registered: 02-2002
| Posted on Monday, March 10, 2003 - 09:09 am: |
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As I work for a tier one parts supplier this is a sore subject with me. At the plant where I work, a major auto company's parts are shipped with their name on the box. While this particular plant is not tier one to Rover, others are and follow the same practice. If you look closely, the name of the tier one manufacturer is visible on many Rover parts, along with the occasional GM part number (door latches to name one). Now, that said, there are some very significant differences in how parts are made for the OEM that differ from aftermarket. First off, most of the tools are not only owned by the OEM, they are oftentimes made under the direction of the OEM by an OEM approved tool shop. Once a production run is completed along with service, these tools are disposed of and usually recycled. When an aftermarket parts supplier decides to make a part, they usually have little more than an OEM part to copy. Clearly,the tolerances under these circumstances can grow. Those comments made, I have found a fairly significant deviation with some Rover parts. As commented previously, ignition parts seem to show the greatest deviation. I replaced a blue aftermarket distributor cap (Kyle, I'm gettin' Dizzy, fix it please!) because it did not fit to the top of the distributor well at all, there was enough play that I spent more for a NAPA black distributor cap which fit much more tightly and can only lead me to believe that ignition timing cna only be improved with a more tightly fitting distributor cap. In almost all other cases, I will continue to use aftermarket parts. Peace, Paul |