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Corey (Discobro)
Member Username: Discobro
Post Number: 86 Registered: 12-2002
| Posted on Sunday, March 09, 2003 - 02:06 am: |
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Tried to start up my 96 D1 today and everything just shut down. It's as if I disconnected the battery cable. No power at all. The voltage at the battery is fine too. Any suggestions? |
   
Jason Gustavson (Prescottj)
Senior Member Username: Prescottj
Post Number: 421 Registered: 12-2002
| Posted on Sunday, March 09, 2003 - 02:15 am: |
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Is this the same problem as the one you listed a few posts down? |
   
Jason Gustavson (Prescottj)
Senior Member Username: Prescottj
Post Number: 422 Registered: 12-2002
| Posted on Sunday, March 09, 2003 - 02:16 am: |
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My sugestion is to clean your ground connections and see what happens |
   
Mike Goodell (Mikegoodell)
New Member Username: Mikegoodell
Post Number: 20 Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Sunday, March 09, 2003 - 11:51 am: |
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sounds like the same thing my 96 SD did to me a couple of months back, the immobilizer on the alarm kicked in for some reason. I used the key fob to lock the rig then unlock it and I was on the road again. Mine hasn't acted up since, but I keep one of the fobs in the glove box and the other in my coat pocketjust in case!! Mike G. 96 Disco SD |
   
Corey (Discobro)
Member Username: Discobro
Post Number: 87 Registered: 12-2002
| Posted on Sunday, March 09, 2003 - 01:12 pm: |
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Yes this is the same post - I just needed to reword it and I really need a solution!! I was just checking out the rig again, and it acts like the battery is dead. I manually turn on the back dome light and it is very dim. That is the only thing that works sort of. |
   
Corey (Discobro)
Member Username: Discobro
Post Number: 95 Registered: 12-2002
| Posted on Sunday, March 09, 2003 - 04:27 pm: |
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Ok - tried to start it again. Put the key in and turned it to the II position. Everything seems normal now except when attempt to tuen it over the thing just goes dead again - like the battery is disconnected! I checked the batterey again and full power. Could this have something to do with the cable between the starter and battery. I have also had a fault code of P1509 - Idle Speed Control Short Circuit Fault. Does anyone know if this has anything to do with this? |
   
Corey (Discobro)
Member Username: Discobro
Post Number: 98 Registered: 12-2002
| Posted on Sunday, March 09, 2003 - 09:48 pm: |
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Can someone please help me out here??!! I can't figure this out. It is absolutly not a battery problem. It only happened when I attempted to turn it over, then blackout. It seems i've checked everything. There has to be someone that has run across this! HELPP!! |
   
Carter Simcoe (Carter)
Senior Member Username: Carter
Post Number: 2036 Registered: 04-2002
| Posted on Sunday, March 09, 2003 - 10:02 pm: |
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Well have you checked the grounds like Jason suggested? Have you tried jumping it off to totally eliminate the possibility of a bad battery? I had a similar problem and it was a bad battery, just because the battery is reading the right voltage doesn't neccesarily mean everything is good. |
   
Corey (Discobro)
Member Username: Discobro
Post Number: 99 Registered: 12-2002
| Posted on Sunday, March 09, 2003 - 11:55 pm: |
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Ground connections where? The lead from the battery or are there others? |
   
Corey (Discobro)
Member Username: Discobro
Post Number: 107 Registered: 12-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, March 11, 2003 - 12:12 pm: |
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The grounds are nice and snug and clean. Where do I go from here? I have noticed if I let the rig sit for a day or two the power comes back. I can turn the key on and have all my power, radio, lights, etc. and try to turn it over and everything shuts off again - like the battery is just dead, but it's not! Someone help me pleeeeaaassse!! |
   
Carter Simcoe (Carter)
Senior Member Username: Carter
Post Number: 2063 Registered: 04-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, March 11, 2003 - 12:18 pm: |
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have you had the battery tested? |
   
Paul T. Schram (Paulschram)
Senior Member Username: Paulschram
Post Number: 1119 Registered: 02-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, March 11, 2003 - 12:20 pm: |
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Charge the battery, or at least check to see if it is dead. Once you get it started, put a voltmeter on the battery. Let's see if you have a bad alternator, battery, or perhaps an alarm problem. |
   
Corey (Discobro)
Member Username: Discobro
Post Number: 108 Registered: 12-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, March 11, 2003 - 12:38 pm: |
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I'm using a battery charger with a built in voltmeter and it shows full power. I'll swap the battery out of my Jeep to see if it'll start off that. If not I know it is something else. I'm curious as to if this has anything to do with it not starting right in the past (I get the P1509 fault). I haven't paid much attention to that because I give it a little gas and it starts up. That seems like a fuel problem not an electrical. See this thread: ../17/12864.html> |
   
Paul T. Schram (Paulschram)
Senior Member Username: Paulschram
Post Number: 1120 Registered: 02-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, March 11, 2003 - 01:03 pm: |
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Corey: If it won't turn over, IT IS NOT A FUEL PROBLEM! Your idle speed control short circuit might be the culprit. Any time something says "short circuit", this is electronics lingo for "Will kill your battery while you wait". In this case, I'd investigate a possible shorted stepper motor. You should have 60 ohms across the two circuits in the stepper motor and open circuits in the other arrangement (there are four pins, two circuits, each circuit independent of itself). The voltmeter on your charger won't do you mcuh good once you get the vehicle started to see how the charging system is operating. Do you have a stand alone voltmeter? Let's get your truck running again and then, we'll tackle why it goeslights out and then, when it is seemingly runnign well, it won't start easily (although that REALLY sounds like stepper motor). I'm trying to think what other part of the fuel system is limited to idle state. Hang in there, we'll get you going! Peace, Paul |
   
Corey (Discobro)
Member Username: Discobro
Post Number: 111 Registered: 12-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, March 12, 2003 - 09:13 pm: |
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OK guys - I was talking to a buddy at work today about my situation and he asked if I had an alarm with an ignition kill switch. That totally made sense, and I remember reading something about resetting the alarm by alarming it three times in a row with the key and it disables the ignition kill. Question - does the ignition kill switch "kill" everything - like no electrical power in my case? So I tried locking (arming) and unlocking (disarming) the alarm 3x and then tried to start it. Lo and behold, mary mother of pearl, it worked! Now I need to find out if that was really the problem or if it just decided to let me think I fixed it. These things have a mind of their own, I swear... I still need to tackle the starting problem cause I have a notion that these problems are linked. |