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Grant Lawson (Grant)
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Post Number: 35
Registered: 01-2003
Posted on Friday, March 14, 2003 - 11:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Any one ever have problem balnacing wheels? the shop i go to always takes 2 tries to get it right.
Why? anyone have some insight?
 

Grant Lawson (Grant)
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Post Number: 36
Registered: 01-2003
Posted on Friday, March 14, 2003 - 03:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

any one , any one? buehler?
 

Jack Edwards (Olered)
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Username: Olered

Post Number: 284
Registered: 04-2002
Posted on Friday, March 14, 2003 - 03:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I have mine "load" balanced-they apply pressure to the tire as if it is carrying a load. It seems to do better than the regular type.
 

Gabriel Guay (Gearhead)
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Username: Gearhead

Post Number: 39
Registered: 04-2002
Posted on Friday, March 14, 2003 - 04:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Dont know, when I had the MT/R's put on they balanced on regular speed balancer and used stick on weights on inside of the wheels.

 

Tom Fioretti (Tom_in_md)
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Username: Tom_in_md

Post Number: 17
Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Friday, March 14, 2003 - 05:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I had problems in the past. 96 D1, which I am the original owner. Last set of tires (235/85-16 goodyear MT/R) I had them drop in Equal packets and I've been very happy with the results. Works much better for me than conventional balancing.
 

Edward Mah (Emah)
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Username: Emah

Post Number: 32
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Friday, March 14, 2003 - 07:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Don't know if you are running stock alloy or steelies but I have never had a problem with the alloys. When I had my MTR's mounted and balance on the steelies, discount tires told me that the best way to balance steelies is by placing weights on both the inside and outside. That is the best and only way the it should be done to most accurately balance them unlike alloys...not as critical. Originally I wanted the weights only on the inside so that they would not show and but that's not what they recommended. No problems even after several off roading trips. I am running heavy 265 MTRS...boy are they heavy. Try it and see if that works out for you. Good Luck/ Good thing gas is cheap in California LOL!
Ed
 

Grant Lawson (Grant)
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Username: Grant

Post Number: 37
Registered: 01-2003
Posted on Saturday, March 15, 2003 - 10:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I am running new stock tires on alloy rims, 97 disco. the alloys have a few dings in them but they have balanced before......it is quite a cunundrum.
 

Joe M. (Little_joe)
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Username: Little_joe

Post Number: 75
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Sunday, March 16, 2003 - 04:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

The "load balance" is done on a Hunter GSP9700 www.gsp9700.com I just had MTR's put on my DI stock allys using this machine and it's amazing! I was very skeptical but it does work.

They do a road force variation. The tires are mounted then analyzed when the machine puts a load on them (forces them down on rollers). This imitates how they will feel when mounted on your truck. The shop I went to used weights inside and out.

They are vibration free at all speeds.

The road force variation will also tell you if you have a bad tire. They measure its rolling resistance and deformation under load and beyond a certain runout, they scrap the tire.

This cost me $18/tire.

Conversely, I've had great success with golf balls in the tire in some crappy MT's on my Toyota. :-)

joe
 

Alan Stuart (Alan_s)
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Username: Alan_s

Post Number: 11
Registered: 03-2003
Posted on Monday, March 17, 2003 - 01:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I have heard that since the LR wheels, especially the steelies are not hub centric (meaning)centerd on the hub, but rather are lug centric, that they can't be balanced right when mounted on the balancer at the hub. In fact when I was at a tire shop, I had them zero out the tire on the balancing screen, then remove the tire and wheel from the machine, remount it and check the balance. They were off and stayed off as many time as it was done.

Regardless of all that, I agree with the Hunter GSP 9700. It works. I was amazed. My 33" tires rotate without ANY vibrations. I will never have tires balanced any other way. You can go on line at the site in the previous post to find a shop that has one. Then ask them to use it to balance your tires. It may cost more, but it's worth it.

Alan Stuart
 

Jeffry Scott (Jeffry)
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Username: Jeffry

Post Number: 81
Registered: 12-2002
Posted on Monday, March 17, 2003 - 01:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Here's another vote for Equal.

I just put it in a set of 235/85/16 MTs - no vibes or issues at any speed after the first 5-10 miles. Took it on the highway and it is smooth. Amazing stuff.

The tire guys were surrounded around the first tire looking at the little packets, then looking at the tire. I could tell they were very suspicious. Only one of them had even heard of the stuff. But it works and works well.
 

Jack Edwards (Olered)
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Username: Olered

Post Number: 285
Registered: 04-2002
Posted on Monday, March 17, 2003 - 01:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Question about equal that seems to never get answered:
It is understood that vibes will occur until packets break up. Once the packets break up, the Equal distributes to "balance" the tire. When the truck is left sitting, say overnight, do the vibes come back until the Equal is distributed again or does the Equal "stay" in the correct places?
 

Bill Bettridge (Billb)
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Username: Billb

Post Number: 705
Registered: 02-2002
Posted on Monday, March 17, 2003 - 02:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Jack - with mine, the Equal seems to just float back down to the lowest point and then I get vibes again for a mile or so until it redistributes itself.

Bill
 

Jack Edwards (Olered)
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Username: Olered

Post Number: 286
Registered: 04-2002
Posted on Monday, March 17, 2003 - 03:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Thanks Bill. How severe are these vibes? I've heard that it feels like your wheels are going to fly off!
 

Bill Bettridge (Billb)
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Username: Billb

Post Number: 706
Registered: 02-2002
Posted on Monday, March 17, 2003 - 04:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Nope - not that bad! :-)

just a rumble at lower speeds ( I have m/t's anyway) and vibes at around 70 mph until it smooths out

Bill
 

Brad Russell (Bradnc)
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Username: Bradnc

Post Number: 161
Registered: 03-2002
Posted on Monday, March 17, 2003 - 05:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Anyone try that stuff on expedition exchange that's a powder and supposedly balances out your tire? If so tell us how well it works.
 

Jaime (Blueboy)
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Username: Blueboy

Post Number: 583
Registered: 02-2002
Posted on Monday, March 17, 2003 - 05:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

its called Equal and what the other posts are mentioning.


Jaime

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