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Grant Lawson (Grant)
New Member Username: Grant
Post Number: 35 Registered: 01-2003
| Posted on Friday, March 14, 2003 - 11:53 am: |
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Any one ever have problem balnacing wheels? the shop i go to always takes 2 tries to get it right. Why? anyone have some insight? |
   
Grant Lawson (Grant)
New Member Username: Grant
Post Number: 36 Registered: 01-2003
| Posted on Friday, March 14, 2003 - 03:31 pm: |
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any one , any one? buehler? |
   
Jack Edwards (Olered)
Senior Member Username: Olered
Post Number: 284 Registered: 04-2002
| Posted on Friday, March 14, 2003 - 03:52 pm: |
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I have mine "load" balanced-they apply pressure to the tire as if it is carrying a load. It seems to do better than the regular type. |
   
Gabriel Guay (Gearhead)
New Member Username: Gearhead
Post Number: 39 Registered: 04-2002
| Posted on Friday, March 14, 2003 - 04:34 pm: |
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Dont know, when I had the MT/R's put on they balanced on regular speed balancer and used stick on weights on inside of the wheels.
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Tom Fioretti (Tom_in_md)
New Member Username: Tom_in_md
Post Number: 17 Registered: 02-2003
| Posted on Friday, March 14, 2003 - 05:13 pm: |
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I had problems in the past. 96 D1, which I am the original owner. Last set of tires (235/85-16 goodyear MT/R) I had them drop in Equal packets and I've been very happy with the results. Works much better for me than conventional balancing. |
   
Edward Mah (Emah)
New Member Username: Emah
Post Number: 32 Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Friday, March 14, 2003 - 07:01 pm: |
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Don't know if you are running stock alloy or steelies but I have never had a problem with the alloys. When I had my MTR's mounted and balance on the steelies, discount tires told me that the best way to balance steelies is by placing weights on both the inside and outside. That is the best and only way the it should be done to most accurately balance them unlike alloys...not as critical. Originally I wanted the weights only on the inside so that they would not show and but that's not what they recommended. No problems even after several off roading trips. I am running heavy 265 MTRS...boy are they heavy. Try it and see if that works out for you. Good Luck/ Good thing gas is cheap in California LOL! Ed |
   
Grant Lawson (Grant)
New Member Username: Grant
Post Number: 37 Registered: 01-2003
| Posted on Saturday, March 15, 2003 - 10:16 am: |
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I am running new stock tires on alloy rims, 97 disco. the alloys have a few dings in them but they have balanced before......it is quite a cunundrum. |
   
Joe M. (Little_joe)
Member Username: Little_joe
Post Number: 75 Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Sunday, March 16, 2003 - 04:17 pm: |
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The "load balance" is done on a Hunter GSP9700 www.gsp9700.com I just had MTR's put on my DI stock allys using this machine and it's amazing! I was very skeptical but it does work. They do a road force variation. The tires are mounted then analyzed when the machine puts a load on them (forces them down on rollers). This imitates how they will feel when mounted on your truck. The shop I went to used weights inside and out. They are vibration free at all speeds. The road force variation will also tell you if you have a bad tire. They measure its rolling resistance and deformation under load and beyond a certain runout, they scrap the tire. This cost me $18/tire. Conversely, I've had great success with golf balls in the tire in some crappy MT's on my Toyota. joe |
   
Alan Stuart (Alan_s)
New Member Username: Alan_s
Post Number: 11 Registered: 03-2003
| Posted on Monday, March 17, 2003 - 01:15 pm: |
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I have heard that since the LR wheels, especially the steelies are not hub centric (meaning)centerd on the hub, but rather are lug centric, that they can't be balanced right when mounted on the balancer at the hub. In fact when I was at a tire shop, I had them zero out the tire on the balancing screen, then remove the tire and wheel from the machine, remount it and check the balance. They were off and stayed off as many time as it was done. Regardless of all that, I agree with the Hunter GSP 9700. It works. I was amazed. My 33" tires rotate without ANY vibrations. I will never have tires balanced any other way. You can go on line at the site in the previous post to find a shop that has one. Then ask them to use it to balance your tires. It may cost more, but it's worth it. Alan Stuart |
   
Jeffry Scott (Jeffry)
Member Username: Jeffry
Post Number: 81 Registered: 12-2002
| Posted on Monday, March 17, 2003 - 01:35 pm: |
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Here's another vote for Equal. I just put it in a set of 235/85/16 MTs - no vibes or issues at any speed after the first 5-10 miles. Took it on the highway and it is smooth. Amazing stuff. The tire guys were surrounded around the first tire looking at the little packets, then looking at the tire. I could tell they were very suspicious. Only one of them had even heard of the stuff. But it works and works well. |
   
Jack Edwards (Olered)
Senior Member Username: Olered
Post Number: 285 Registered: 04-2002
| Posted on Monday, March 17, 2003 - 01:56 pm: |
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Question about equal that seems to never get answered: It is understood that vibes will occur until packets break up. Once the packets break up, the Equal distributes to "balance" the tire. When the truck is left sitting, say overnight, do the vibes come back until the Equal is distributed again or does the Equal "stay" in the correct places? |
   
Bill Bettridge (Billb)
Senior Member Username: Billb
Post Number: 705 Registered: 02-2002
| Posted on Monday, March 17, 2003 - 02:54 pm: |
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Jack - with mine, the Equal seems to just float back down to the lowest point and then I get vibes again for a mile or so until it redistributes itself. Bill |
   
Jack Edwards (Olered)
Senior Member Username: Olered
Post Number: 286 Registered: 04-2002
| Posted on Monday, March 17, 2003 - 03:47 pm: |
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Thanks Bill. How severe are these vibes? I've heard that it feels like your wheels are going to fly off! |
   
Bill Bettridge (Billb)
Senior Member Username: Billb
Post Number: 706 Registered: 02-2002
| Posted on Monday, March 17, 2003 - 04:21 pm: |
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Nope - not that bad! just a rumble at lower speeds ( I have m/t's anyway) and vibes at around 70 mph until it smooths out Bill |
   
Brad Russell (Bradnc)
Member Username: Bradnc
Post Number: 161 Registered: 03-2002
| Posted on Monday, March 17, 2003 - 05:00 pm: |
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Anyone try that stuff on expedition exchange that's a powder and supposedly balances out your tire? If so tell us how well it works. |
   
Jaime (Blueboy)
Senior Member Username: Blueboy
Post Number: 583 Registered: 02-2002
| Posted on Monday, March 17, 2003 - 05:12 pm: |
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its called Equal and what the other posts are mentioning. Jaime |