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     BW (Bwallace35) New Member Username: Bwallace35 Post Number: 30 Registered: 07-2002 |
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&cid=87&u=/030313/143/3ia96.html&pri nter=1 | ||
| Paul D. Morgan (V22guy) Senior Member Username: V22guy Post Number: 1316 Registered: 02-2002 |
Man, that pisses me off.  I like the part where the Dixie's say they support our troops. Well guess what you dumb bitches, those troops are an extension of the Executive Power of the United States of America; aka President Bush. | ||
| Jake Hartley (Jake) Member Username: Jake Post Number: 185 Registered: 03-2002 |
I knew that those girls weren't country when I first saw them..... fuck 'em, dumb bitches | ||
| Blake Luse (Muddyrover) Senior Member Username: Muddyrover Post Number: 757 Registered: 02-2002 |
All of em but that one fat one, Jake. | ||
| Todd W. McLain (Ganryu) Member Username: Ganryu Post Number: 153 Registered: 10-2002 |
Yeah, we'll I'm embaressed that they claim to come from Texas as well. | ||
| Erik Olson (Jon) Senior Member Username: Jon Post Number: 342 Registered: 02-2002 |
Hey Jake, is your middle name Earl? | ||
| Robert Sublett (Rubisco98) Senior Member Username: Rubisco98 Post Number: 711 Registered: 04-2002 |
Dang Chicks with Dix suck! I'm can't understand why they(at least whichever one) would say such a thing while in a foreign country. They're ashamed of GW Bush, he should go on tv saying he's ashamed of those Chicks with Dix. Perhaps he could even talk of how hairy their backs are, etc. That just steams me.. one more reason to dislike mainstream country music.. I'd be much happier in life if I knew that there was no more Toby Keith, Chicks with Dix, etc.. | ||
| Greg French (Gregfrench) Senior Member Username: Gregfrench Post Number: 254 Registered: 11-2002 |
Personally, I agree with them. I am right here in the middle of the whole thing, wearing the uniform full time, working 12 or 13 hour shifts maintaining the C-17's that are carrying our troops and supplies all over the world. I AM one of the troops that they say they are in support of...but do I agree with a war? No. Do I like Bush? No. Would I say that to the news in another country? No. But they are entitled to their opinion. I would like nothing more than for Bush to listen to the rest of the world. I agree that something needs to be done, and soon. He has good ideas (Well...not him, but whomever he is the puppet for). If we can get in there and get it done quickly, I can get back to my life. I don't think alienating ourselves from the rest of the world is the way to go. I don't have the answers either. Don't get me wrong. I will do the best job I can while I am here, and will continue to follow him to war if needed, and get shot at an possibly die for my country if needed. But is it needed? "Nobody hates war more than a warrior" | ||
| Paul D. Morgan (V22guy) Senior Member Username: V22guy Post Number: 1320 Registered: 02-2002 |
Hey Greg, C-17 mechanic Eh? Air lift is the back-bone of diplomacy. Without those big ass jets, the Army and Air Force couldn't deploy. I never got to fly on the C-17, but I did get lots of rides on C-5's before. | ||
| Greg French (Gregfrench) Senior Member Username: Gregfrench Post Number: 256 Registered: 11-2002 |
Paul...The funny part is, I have worked on these big-assed planes for almost 7 years, and have only travelled on the skinny-assed 141's! Doesn't that suck? | ||
| BW (Bwallace35) New Member Username: Bwallace35 Post Number: 32 Registered: 07-2002 |
Don't MESS WITH TEXAS: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,81177,00.html | ||
| Todd W. McLain (Ganryu) Member Username: Ganryu Post Number: 163 Registered: 10-2002 |
Greg, Please be careful where and who you say that to (about the President, not the Starlifters.) While I know feelings can be running hot and high, I would hate to here of somebody getting courtmartialed on Art.88 for remarks. (And if your not an officer, DOD Directive 1344-10 extends the same requirements to all individuals on active duty, enlisted and warrent officers. The only difference is they get you an Art.92, Failure to obey an order or regulation.) Posting such ideas or remarks on the internet may not be such a good idea. | ||
| Greg French (Gregfrench) Senior Member Username: Gregfrench Post Number: 261 Registered: 11-2002 |
Thanks for the warning, but I'm not disobeying any orders. I was just saying that I don't like Bush, and I think he is an idiot. That doesn't mean I'm not going to do my job...it just means I don't like him or his way of doing things. Haven't you ever had a boss like that? But he is my boss (for now) so I will do as he directs and wait for someone else to get elected. | ||
| M. K. Watson (Lrover94) Senior Member Username: Lrover94 Post Number: 709 Registered: 02-2002 |
you think Bush is bad,you should have been around when Carter was the prez..... mike w | ||
| Todd W. McLain (Ganryu) Member Username: Ganryu Post Number: 168 Registered: 10-2002 |
Greg, Unfortunatly, a statement like that is exactly what will get you in trouble. To my understanding, to say "I disagree with the President." is just fine, but, to say "The president is an idiot." is probably going over the line. Might want to check with your local legal affairs office. I only bring this up because I almost lost a stripe over a very similar thing. During the last presidency (about 95, I think), a friend and I were standing at a magazine rack when he pointed out the latest issue of Time magazine which had a picture of Batman on the cover. I made the comment to my friend that "I would vote for him (Batman) before I voted for Clinton." Unfortunatly, a First Sergeant who didn't like me very much heard my comment. Two days later, I'm standing tall before the man trying to explain why I would be in violation of Article 88/92. Fortunatly, my CO took pity on a poor corporal and let me off easy. I do have to say that it taught me to be very aware of mysurroundings, and what I say in them. - Todd | ||
| Paul D. Morgan (V22guy) Senior Member Username: V22guy Post Number: 1325 Registered: 02-2002 |
Due to the popularity of the Survivor shows and now the infamous Dixie Chicks, Texas is planning to do it's own, entitled "Survivor - Texas Style" The contestants will start in Dallas, travel to Waco, Austin, San Antonio, over to Houston and down to Brownsville. They will then proceed up to Del Rio, on to El Paso, then to Midland, Odessa, Lubbock and Amarillo. From there, they'll proceed to Abilene, Ft. Worth and finally back to Dallas. Each will be driving a pink Volvo with a bumper sticker that reads: I'm gay I'm a vegetarian I voted for Al Gore George Strait Sucks Dixie Chicks Rule Hillary in 2004 I'm here to confiscate your guns! The first one to make it back to Dallas alive wins! | ||
| Michael S. Hodges (Sugarland) New Member Username: Sugarland Post Number: 1 Registered: 03-2003 |
Greg, I would very much recommend you phrase what you say about your Commander & Chief with caution. As the Adjutant for a Battalion (ARMY), whose life has been interrupted just like yours, you are without a doubt subject to UCMJ based on the comments you are making. I shouldn’t have to remind you that it is an all volunteer and we will be sent to fight under many different leaders, some you will like, some you will not. Bottom line is you volunteered to serve under whomever is in that position. Remember, I could have been your Commander reading these comments. You really don’t know who is reading this board so just be cautious. CPT Hodges | ||
| Greg Davis (Gregdavis) Senior Member Username: Gregdavis Post Number: 722 Registered: 08-2002 |
Looks to me like they made the statement to sell more albums overseas, but now it's bitin' 'em in the ass back home!  | ||
| Joe Blanchard (Joeblanch) New Member Username: Joeblanch Post Number: 28 Registered: 01-2003 |
This reminds me of a time my big mouth got me into trouble for calling a corp. in charge a piece of sh*t. (the CPL was in charge of the outpost while our squad leader was away, and we were the same rank)We were over in Sinai. I disagreed with him. And let my mouth run. Without thinking of the consequences. He reported the comment to our squad leader. I had two choices at that point.. UCMJ or walk the perimeter from sun up to sundown with two sandbags on my shoulder. (I took the latter) My point is be careful what and where you say it. You never know what the consequences will be. You have a right to have your own opinions. The way you express them while on or off duty can open up a can of worms. You never know what actions those simple words can bring. Mine was only a true statement of a CPL's worth within the squad. But he was IN Charge. Just as your Commander in Chief is IN charge. De-nouncing your Commander in public is just not a good idea. Hope everything is well with you. And wishing you a safe return. And whether these "Chicks" realize it or not. Their words have a profound affect on a lot of people. They are in a position to have their words taken seriously by a lot of people. Our youth included. I do not believe that the statements made will have a positive affect on their careers. (Can you say boycott?) And that is all I will say about that. | ||
| Leslie N. Bright (Leslie) Senior Member Username: Leslie Post Number: 1893 Registered: 02-2002 |
I agree with ya Greg, I think it was for overseas sales, and it'll hurt 'em at home, I think.... (wink wink to Joe).... -L | ||
| Jim H. (Victor_mature) New Member Username: Victor_mature Post Number: 17 Registered: 02-2003 |
I think those corn-fed fatties somehow got the impression that people want to know about their opinions. Not so. Just sing yer twangy little tunes, take off your shirts and start making out with each other. Geez. Jim | ||
| M. K. Watson (Lrover94) Senior Member Username: Lrover94 Post Number: 710 Registered: 02-2002 |
jim has the right idea! mike w | ||
| Max Thomason (Lrmax) Member Username: Lrmax Post Number: 120 Registered: 11-2002 |
If you think about it, who in Britain would want to listen to the Dixie Chicks?  | ||
| Paul D. Morgan (V22guy) Senior Member Username: V22guy Post Number: 1330 Registered: 02-2002 |
Jim, You just made my day. Many Thanks, Paul | ||
| Blue (Bluegill) Senior Member Username: Bluegill Post Number: 2102 Registered: 02-2002 |
Greg French, at least you have the right name to match that attitude | ||
| Rans (Rans) Senior Member Username: Rans Post Number: 407 Registered: 08-2002 |
I wish we weren't going to war. Many people are going to be injured and killed, some will be Americans, some will be innocents, and some will deserve it for backing SH. If blame for us going to war should be placed anywhere it should be placed with the French, German, Russion and Chinsese leaders who have put $billion$ defense contracts with Bahgdad ahead of world safety. Had those four countries supported the UN resolutions, and the world stood united against this madman, then he could have been removed and the WMD destroyed without any blood being spilled. But they did not, and for that reason, we are going to war. To blame GW Bush for this is ridiculus. For those that do, you may never know how much this action saved your ass from the WMD that SH will surely unleash upon the world. We're fucked if we do, and fucked if we don't....so you are saying let SH alone and take our chances getting fucked that way? Please....choose that for your family, not mine. | ||
| Blue (Bluegill) Senior Member Username: Bluegill Post Number: 2104 Registered: 02-2002 |
on a lighter note, I found this picture and caption on CNN amusing:  U.N. weapons inspectors arrive Tuesday in Larnaca, Cyprus, after taking a flight from Baghdad. Check out the guitar - I guess there won't be any more weapons inspectors singing "kumbaya, give saddam a chance" in Iraq | ||
| Peter Matusov (Pmatusov) Senior Member Username: Pmatusov Post Number: 558 Registered: 09-2002 |
Rans, out of these four, Germany and France have the most vested interest in Iraq. The other two - I believe China's there just to hop on the opportunity to makes things difficult for the U.S., and Russia - heck, don't know what for. Maybe to show it's still a big dog. peter | ||
| BCNelson (Bcnelson) New Member Username: Bcnelson Post Number: 1 Registered: 03-2003 |
Originally posted by Joe Blanchard (Joeblanch): "We were over in Sinai." At which OP in MFO did this take place? When were you there? What unit were you with when you went. I was the site commander for OP 3-9 in 1998 when I was with the 10th Mountain. | ||
| Joe Blanchard (Joeblanch) New Member Username: Joeblanch Post Number: 29 Registered: 01-2003 |
BCNelson- I went over with 2nd bat 22nd Inf. Charlie Co. in the latter part of 91 I got out in Sept. 92. SO it might have been the first part of 92. I remember my unit left for the cleanup for Hur. Andrew soon after we got back. If my memory serves me correctly. The Main MFO base in Sharm-el-Sheik (SP?) was a treat. Except for the "raking" of sand. The OP number I do not remember. I know we could see the Israeli border. Near a resort town. We had a cake walk compared to the others. | ||
| BW (Bwallace35) New Member Username: Bwallace35 Post Number: 36 Registered: 07-2002 |
More news from an entertainer: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,81413,00.html | ||
| BCNelson (Bcnelson) New Member Username: Bcnelson Post Number: 2 Registered: 03-2003 |
JB, You were at SCC-5 near the resort town of Eilat. It is interesting that you went with Triple Duece as they are in the 10th Mountain as well. I was a Staff Sergeant when I deployed, so I never raked the sand; though I do remember making soldiers do it often to keep the Sergeant Major out of my AO. I guess if there is no Grass to mow, you have to make something up to torment bored sodliers! ;) | ||
| BCNelson (Bcnelson) New Member Username: Bcnelson Post Number: 3 Registered: 03-2003 |
Back on topic: I would wager that the Dixie Chics are done and alot of other main stream entertainers will watch their words (and their carrers) much more closely. | ||
| joe (Joe) Member Username: Joe Post Number: 55 Registered: 12-2002 |
Greg and the dixie chicks can kiss my italian, former U.S.A.F. 100% behind Pres Bush, gung ho ASS!! I know that his opinion is NOT what the majority of U.S.A.F. men are saying. If you don't like the system, get out. I don't want my tax dollars paying you anyway. Go work for Pepboys, they like people like you. | ||
| KJ (Karen) Senior Member Username: Karen Post Number: 113 Registered: 02-2002 |
I'm amazed at the hostility of some of these posters toward Greg who is doing his duty to his country. SHAME ON YOU! Though I agree that perhaps he takes a risk in voicing his opinions on an internet forum, he has a right to his opinion and that is his risk to assume. Karen | ||
| Todd W. McLain (Ganryu) Member Username: Ganryu Post Number: 172 Registered: 10-2002 |
Karen, Please don't take me as being critical of Greg, I just don't want to see him get in trouble for such a thing. While he does have the right to his opinions, he does NOT have the right to voice them in such a manner. That is the law, which he chose to accept it when he signed on the dotted line. As unfortunate as it may be, even after being made aware of UCMJ and DoD Directives, Greg continued to make comments that directly contradict those very rules. Were any member of his unit (or really, anybody who wanted to push the issue), Greg would be found guilty over either article 88 or 92 of the Uniform Code of Military Justice, and would probably be drummed out of the service very quickly. Rules are rules. For a person to violate a rule when maybe they don't know, I can understand, but, to flagrantly violate them really starts my blood to boil. | ||
| Paul D. Morgan (V22guy) Senior Member Username: V22guy Post Number: 1343 Registered: 02-2002 |
Karen, The military can be lax or it can be very anal on these matters. It all depends on how much of a prick a CO wants to be. Here's an example: In the early 90's after Desert Shield / Storm, I was a Jarhead stationed at Quantico assigned to the Presdential Helo Squadron. Ole Slick Willy himself was going to pay us a visit to see how us Marines make shit happen. Anyway, a senior enlisted Marine had one (1) bumper sticker on his truck that read, "Don't blame me, I voted for Bush" The day before the scheduled visit, he was asked to remove the sticker from his vehicle. His first response was, "No this is my POV and what about freedom of speech?" Karen, from there it went straight to threats of charges which would result in serious consequences. He ended up removing the sticker. Trivial example? Yes. But when an individual signs the contract; that person is swearing to honor the Commander-in-Chief. | ||
| Rans (Rans) Senior Member Username: Rans Post Number: 421 Registered: 08-2002 |
Paul were't you the Marine at the bottom of the stairs from the First Helo when Clinton returned from overseas with two giant stuffed animals under his arms and you asked "Where'd ya get those Sir?" and he answered "I got them for Hilary and Chelsea!" and you said "Good trade Sir!" | ||
| Paul D. Morgan (V22guy) Senior Member Username: V22guy Post Number: 1345 Registered: 02-2002 |
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| KJ (Karen) Senior Member Username: Karen Post Number: 114 Registered: 02-2002 |
Todd and Paul, I was referring more to the attitudes expressed by "Joe" with the "his tax dollars" sentiment and Blue, who I REALLY want to think was kidding (he did post a smilie face) and their comments. Yes, Greg assumes his own risk and I'm well aware, after living my first 21 years as a military dependent, that sometimes regulations get pressed and sometimes they don't. Trust me, we children got warned all the time about how even our own behavior could influence the advancement or regression of our father's careers. Karen | ||
| Blue (Bluegill) Senior Member Username: Bluegill Post Number: 2125 Registered: 02-2002 |
Oh, come on Karen, put the PC crack pipe down! (there's that smiley face again!) What's hostile about a play on words? Greg's chosen career and his attitude are certainly at odds, but what can someone who's forced into service do? There were plenty of military people who felt the same way under the last administration (my father comes to mind), but such is life. Now what I really want to know is, who the fuck are the dixie chicks? | ||
| Greg French (Gregfrench) Senior Member Username: Gregfrench Post Number: 269 Registered: 11-2002 |
Sorry I haven't been around to reply on this thread very often. I have been kind of busy...FIGHTING A WAR! If I piss anyone off by not liking Bush, than I am sorry. I support the war 100%, and think Bush is doing a great job so far. It doesn't mean I have to like him. Personally, I voted for McCain. At least he has gone to war and knows what it is like. He is a real American Hero. Too bad more people didn't see that. I served for Clinton, too. Didn't like him much either. Something I don't trust about a war defector. For some reason, I LOVED Bush's Dad. He was great to serve for, and was sorry to see him go. In my opinion, he was smart, well thought-out, and seemed to know what he was doing. He and the rest of the boys did a great job leading us in Desert Storm. Reagan...well, what can I say about serving under Reagan...I was new, and didn't have much to compare it to. As for the current war...I STILL hope it ends soon. Sadaam needs to be out. I think we might be handling it the right way so far. We seem to be doing ok. We gave him plenty of opportunities to give up, now it looks like he might not be alive any more. That woul;d be nice. Regardless of who the president is and how much I don't like him, I will continue to fight for my country and obey his orders, but nobody can make me like him. The Dixie Chicks messed up. It was the wrong thing to say. But guess what...This is America. They have the right to say anything they want. That is what America is all about. And you have the right to say whatever you want about what they say. After all...you are Americans (most of you) and it is your right. Boycott their albums if you must. That is also your right. Personally, I have never heard them, except for that "Earl" song once. Not a big fan. Bluegill...that was great! I am officially changing my last name to Freedom. Joe...I'm glad to hear that most of the USAF doesn't share my opinion. BTW...how many of them do you work with on a daily basis? Just wondering, because I am with a bunch of them all day long, and we get the chance to talk alot. It seems funny that I haven't met too many that are ready to volunteer to jump on a plane and go get shot down over the desert. Guess what else...I have the right to say whatever I want, too, however, because of my current position I have to word it carefully. Isn't it odd how the ones who are actually fighting for the freedom of speech are the first to have it taken away? Hope this clears up any thoughts you have. If not, I don't really give a rat's ass. I have a big-assed plane to catch. | ||
| Leslie N. Bright (Leslie) Senior Member Username: Leslie Post Number: 1922 Registered: 02-2002 |
The Dixie Chicks also posed for PETA, one of those "I'd rather wear nothing than wear fur" ads, but it got pulled and never ran.... they didn't want to offend their country-boy fans... http://www.sebreephoto.com/pix/images/PETA%20ANTI-FUR%20.jpg FWIW.... -L | ||
| KJ (Karen) Senior Member Username: Karen Post Number: 116 Registered: 02-2002 |
Blue, Don't Bogart that joint, my friend, pass it over to me...... Karen right back atcha! | ||
| BW (Bwallace35) Member Username: Bwallace35 Post Number: 41 Registered: 07-2002 |
OK Greg, Maybe you should admit you made a mistake when you called Bush an idiot and drive on with your mission. Don't push it. Your embarrassing me and the other green suiters on this site. | ||
| Joe Blanchard (Joeblanch) New Member Username: Joeblanch Post Number: 31 Registered: 01-2003 |
Where are you Stationed at Greg? | ||
| Kevin Howell (Kevinhowell) New Member Username: Kevinhowell Post Number: 28 Registered: 02-2003 |
"I haven't met too many that are ready to volunteer to jump on a plane and go get shot down over the desert. " then what did they think they were volunteering for when they signed up in the first place? hell, we'd all join the military if all it meant was the free education that the recruiter promised and nobody ever has to fight a war! goes with the job, i'm afraid to say. you say that you like what bush is doing so far, so thank God we do have some that are willing to risk their lives for the rest of us by carrying out his plan. Godspeed to them and their families. as for the pencil dicks or dixie chicks or whatever they're called, i'm more ashamed to say that they're from my beloved state of Texas than bush! i agree that they can say whatever they want while we burn their cd's and boycott their concerts. thank God again for for the brave men and women who acquired us these priveleges by volunteering their services and loyalty while being cognizant of the risks involved in so doing. | ||
| Blue (Bluegill) Senior Member Username: Bluegill Post Number: 2128 Registered: 02-2002 |
I am officially changing my last name to Freedom. Now that is funny. You'd be all over CNN if you filed name change paperwork! Think of the book & movie deals... We may disagree politically, but you're a damn good sport. | ||
| Greg French (Gregfrench) Senior Member Username: Gregfrench Post Number: 272 Registered: 11-2002 |
Good idea, Blue...Book deal...movie deal... I like it! The other guys I am stationed here with have actually started calling me Sgt Freedom. Kevin...we all know the risks before we sign. It's just that we don't really want to get shot at if we don't have to. When I first joined, I was all gung-ho and ready to fight any country that looked at us the wrong way. After all, I was invincible! Now I am 17 years older, have been involved in several campaigns, have a wife and family, and would rather work things out peacefully. But things happen and we (soldiers) have to roll with them. It is on, now, and I will gladly fight and die for my country. I believe we have exhausted all other options. I spent all day Wednesday in an NBC suit (Nuclear, chemical, biological) taking apart my m-16. All I can say is, "Bring it on, Sadaam! You may get me, but you won't get US!" | ||
| Jim H. (Victor_mature) New Member Username: Victor_mature Post Number: 22 Registered: 02-2003 |
NBC suit, M-16 and DiscoWeb? Something smells a little froggie. | ||
| Joe Blanchard (Joeblanch) New Member Username: Joeblanch Post Number: 32 Registered: 01-2003 |
This Cracks me up!  | ||
| Joe Blanchard (Joeblanch) New Member Username: Joeblanch Post Number: 33 Registered: 01-2003 |
And this one!  | ||
| Corey (Discobro) Member Username: Discobro Post Number: 141 Registered: 12-2002 |
"I feel the President is ignoring the opinions of many in the U.S. and alienating the rest of the world. My comments were made in frustration and one of the privileges of being an American is you are free to voice your own point of view." Duh - the reason we have that right in the first place is because of democracy and our fight for it. Get a clue Chicks! | ||
| Dick Walker (Wyo183121) New Member Username: Wyo183121 Post Number: 39 Registered: 02-2003 |
A Navy airman wrote 'An Open Letter to the Dixie Chicks.' Earlier this week, while performing in London, you stated that you were ashamed that our President is from your home state. I wonder if you realized how many Americans would be listening. This American was listening. This Texan is ashamed that you come from my state. I serve my country as an officer in the United States Navy. Specifically, I fly F-14 Tomcats off carriers around the world, executing the missions that preserve the very freedom you claim to exercise. I have proudly fought for my country in the skies over Kosovo, Iraq and Afghanistan without regret. Though I may disagree wholeheartedly with your comments, I will defend to the death your right to say them, in America. But for you to travel to a foreign land and publicly criticize our Commander in Chief is cowardice behavior. Would you have so willingly made those comments while performing for a patriotic, flag-waving crowd of Texans in Lubbock. I would imagine not. How dare you pocket profits off songs about soldiers, their deaths and patriotism while criticizing their Commander in Chief abroad, even while they prepare to give their lives to ensure your own freedom of speech. Please ask yourself, what have you done to deserve that sacrifice? Do not try to justify your comments by claiming that you made them only because you care about innocent lives. Never once in our history have we committed troops to war for the purpose of taking innocent lives. We do it to protect innocent lives, even yours. If the world leaders of the late 1930's had the vision and courage of our present Commander in Chief, perhaps the evil men who caused the death of millions in WWII would have never had the opportunity to harm a soul. The potential loss of millions of lives in the future at the hands of today's evil men necessitate action. In a separate correspondence, I am returning to you each and every Dixie Chicks CD and cassette that I have ever purchased. Never again will I allow my funds to support your behavior. All you have done is to add your name to a growing list of American "Celebrities" who have failed to realize that they have obtained their successes on the backs of the American blue-collar workers such as our servicemen and women. To Natalie Maines: This Texan -- this American will continue to risk his life to guarantee your freedoms. What will you do to deserve it? | ||
| BW (Bwallace35) Member Username: Bwallace35 Post Number: 50 Registered: 07-2002 |
I'm so glad Gore didn't win: (3/31/03, 7 a.m. ET) -- The Dixie Chicks controversy continues with the trio getting some support from former Vice President Al Gore. Gore spoke to a college audience last week on the subject of fewer companies owning more media outlets, and what he sees as the increasing lack of tolerance for opposing views. According to the Tennessean, Gore used recent attacks on the Dixie Chicks that followed anti-war comments by Natalie Maines as an example. Gore told the audience, "They were made to feel un-American and risked economic retaliation because of what was said. Our democracy has taken a hit," Gore said. "Our best protection is free and open debate." Record sales have fallen for the Chicks and radio stations across the country banned the trio's music after Maines told a London concert crowd that she was "ashamed the President of the United States is from Texas." Maines later released an apology. | ||
| Paul D. Morgan (V22guy) Senior Member Username: V22guy Post Number: 1383 Registered: 02-2002 |
Wow! Dick that letter you posted was pretty darn powerful. | ||
| Bryan Crosby (Bcroz) Member Username: Bcroz Post Number: 56 Registered: 03-2002 |
Talk about the kiss of death. Let Algore defend you. God was certainly smiling the day GWB was sworn in. | ||
| Paul D. Morgan (V22guy) Senior Member Username: V22guy Post Number: 1389 Registered: 02-2002 |
I heard this weekend that Pearl Jam was very lippy at a concert about President Bush. Something to the affect of stomping up and down on a Bush representitive costume mask. | ||
| Greg Hirst (Gregh) Member Username: Gregh Post Number: 133 Registered: 10-2002 |
Hmmmm. Are Ted Nugent albums now selling? Last CD's I bought were Pink Floyd-Liberty Bell (to complete my Pink Floyd/Roger Waters collection), an Oystein Sevag CD, a Rick Braun CD, and a couple Foo Fighters CD's. Don't know what that says about my politics but certainly sounds like a 40yr old sadly trying to hang on to youth. | ||
| Bryan Crosby (Bcroz) Member Username: Bcroz Post Number: 57 Registered: 03-2002 |
Being forty and hanging on to youth are not mutually exclusive (I'm 42). Music is just the start. Thakfully my ten year old daughter appreciates Def Leppard, Aerosmith and Pink Floyd (especially The Wall). Face it, we're all trying to be 20 again only this time around it's with a gold card. | ||
| Greg Hirst (Gregh) Member Username: Gregh Post Number: 135 Registered: 10-2002 |
My daughters (6 and 9) seem to like my music too (not that they have a choice ). What worries me is that my music listening is getting more eclectic as I get older. I actually like Oystein Sevag (Norwegian new age) and Rick Braun (Jazz) and my classical CD collection is growing. Time to go put on the Sennheiser's and crank "Young Lust"... | ||
| Bryan Crosby (Bcroz) Member Username: Bcroz Post Number: 58 Registered: 03-2002 |
Ya, it's sad when your listening to a jazz station and can actually tell it's Fourplay, the Rippingtons, Stan Getz etc. To think I could used to do the same thing with guitar riffs during a college party at 2:30 am while half blasted. Now I couldnt make it to 2:30 without falling asleep (as opposed to passing out). | ||
| Kevin Howell (Kevinhowell) Member Username: Kevinhowell Post Number: 58 Registered: 02-2003 |
wow, you have the only pink floyd album that i don't, the liberty bell. where'd you find it? is it better than the last one i bought, the division bell? | ||
| TPH (Snowman) Senior Member Username: Snowman Post Number: 363 Registered: 12-2002 |
My son's 9 and asked me yesterday if I had any KISS cd's, go figure? I guess you could argue if KISS is actually "classic" rock but he seems to like it better than what's being marketed to him, o.k. with me! S- | ||
| Greg Hirst (Gregh) Member Username: Gregh Post Number: 137 Registered: 10-2002 |
Kevin-yes it's very difficult to find if not impossible! hehe-"fingers typing where no brain has gone before". BTW-I was going to ask you if you had "A Nice Pair" but thought you or someone else might misunderstand! | ||
| Kevin Howell (Kevinhowell) Member Username: Kevinhowell Post Number: 60 Registered: 02-2003 |
no, i don't have "a nice pair." but my wife does, heh heh. she also keeps my pair in a jar. she lets me have them from time to time so i can go 4-wheelin' with the boys. i need more coffee; i'm not feeling comfortably numb yet. | ||
| Leslie N. Bright (Leslie) Senior Member Username: Leslie Post Number: 1991 Registered: 02-2002 |
In a jar? Are you familiar with Enter the Haggis' CD Let the Wind Blow High? There's a song that would suit that on it.... -L | ||
| Kevin Howell (Kevinhowell) Member Username: Kevinhowell Post Number: 61 Registered: 02-2003 |
i'll have to find that on the net. i've never heard of enter the haggis. what kind of music is that? | ||
| Leslie N. Bright (Leslie) Senior Member Username: Leslie Post Number: 1994 Registered: 02-2002 |
Celtic rock... (mix bagpipes and a fiddle in with electric guitars, and see what you get....) http://www.enterthehaggis.com (it's a brand-new reworked site, doesn't have a lot of the goodies up and running yet). The song in particular is Ride My Monster, I'm rolling in the floor every time I listen to it.... -L | ||
| Kevin Howell (Kevinhowell) Member Username: Kevinhowell Post Number: 63 Registered: 02-2003 |
cool. i'll definitely check that out. i've always said you can't go wrong with bagpipes and electric guitars! | ||
| Christopher Dynak (Adtoolco) Member Username: Adtoolco Post Number: 157 Registered: 08-2002 |
Speaking of Pink Floyd...Which is your favorite album? My vote is for "The Final Cut". | ||
| Kevin Howell (Kevinhowell) Member Username: Kevinhowell Post Number: 64 Registered: 02-2003 |
man, it's hard to go against "the wall". had you never heard either before, that's the one i'd choose. but since it gets overplayed, i tend to listen to "the final cut" more. i love that album, start to finish. oh whyyyyyyyyyy did roger waters have to leave the band?! | ||
| Leslie N. Bright (Leslie) Senior Member Username: Leslie Post Number: 2005 Registered: 02-2002 |
DSOTM stays in the CD player in the Roo most of the time.... but I like Wish You Were Here a whole lot, too... Delicate Sound of Thunder was the first CD set I bought when I bought my first CD player many years ago... not knocking the Wall at all, but I agree with Kevin that it just catches a lot more airplay... (still love Comfortably Numb and Blue Skies... I like Water's vocals, but, I didn't like him solo, but still like PF with Gilmour covering lead vocals.... -L | ||
| Christopher Dynak (Adtoolco) Member Username: Adtoolco Post Number: 158 Registered: 08-2002 |
I have engulfed all Floyd, I love all the albums even the Division Bell . I just got "Umma Gumma(sp?)" very interesting if your a Floyd fanatic. A very early and experimental album. Anyway I really shouldn't pick "one", it almost feels blasphemous. | ||
| Leslie N. Bright (Leslie) Senior Member Username: Leslie Post Number: 2009 Registered: 02-2002 |
I wouldn't say that I love the Division Bell... it's okay, and I enjoy it because I made it to the concert at Vandy, but it's not in the top 3.... -L | ||
| Dick Walker (Wyo183121) Member Username: Wyo183121 Post Number: 42 Registered: 02-2003 |
Joe They had your picture of Saddam and the Dixie Chicks on Fox TV last night. | ||
| Christopher Dynak (Adtoolco) Member Username: Adtoolco Post Number: 160 Registered: 08-2002 |
Leslie same here. I saw the Division Bell show, but in Foxboro. Thats why I love it, brings back great memories. As far as their work goes, I agree, its in the bottom half. | ||
| Greg Hirst (Gregh) Member Username: Gregh Post Number: 139 Registered: 10-2002 |
They're all good-but I like the '70's albums best. "Meddle", "Dark Side of the Moon", "Animals", "Wish you were here", "Obscured by Clouds", and of course, "The Wall". If you ever get a chance to listen to "A Nice Pair" which combines a couple of their earliest albums, "A Saucerful of Secrets" (1968), and "A Piper at the Gates of Dawn" (1967) you'll hear some bizarre 60's experimental stuff. | ||
| Kevin Howell (Kevinhowell) Member Username: Kevinhowell Post Number: 65 Registered: 02-2003 |
only song by roger waters, post pink floyd, that i like is the pros and cons of hitchhiking. it's too bad he didn't continue in the vein of the final cut, which was essentially a roger waters album, start to finish. and without him, pf sounds too soft to me. apparantly, he and gilmour need each other to sustain that floyd edge. | ||
| Greg Hirst (Gregh) Member Username: Gregh Post Number: 140 Registered: 10-2002 |
Have you listened to "In the Flesh" by Roger Waters? It's a live version "best of" album including PF stuff and his best solo stuff. | ||
| Kevin Howell (Kevinhowell) Member Username: Kevinhowell Post Number: 66 Registered: 02-2003 |
didn't know it existed. i may have to pick that one up. i prefer studio with pf, but it's still worth a look. | ||
| Leslie N. Bright (Leslie) Senior Member Username: Leslie Post Number: 2022 Registered: 02-2002 |
Although I wouldn't say that I prefer non-Waters PF, I have to admit that Learning to Fly is one of my favorite songs.... FWIW... -L |
