| Author | Message | ||
     John Abrams (Jabra2) New Member Username: Jabra2 Post Number: 29 Registered: 02-2003 |
I'd SWEAR I saw a post or two about this in the past, but a search revealed nothing. Anyways, I came across the new headlights for sale at northwestparts.com for $237 and underneath the picture is states "Modifications necessary for fitment to DI and DII Disco". Would this just involve some relatively simple cutting on the body? Or would this involve some nasty modification to the hood, body, and headlight mounts, along with some painting? Thanks! | ||
| Jason T. Barker (Speedminded) Member Username: Speedminded Post Number: 111 Registered: 10-2002 |
Yes, you are correct...northwestparts.com sells them for $237 each. This is what I was told upon asking the same thing: "Needed: New fenders, cowl, wiring harness, grille, and lights....About $2000 in parts, and who knows how much labor.." I believe you may be able to do it with just the fenders, wire harness, and possibly modifying the area where the headlights are attached. I know nothing about Disco II's though. I don't even know if the fenders will fit. But like you, I want them on my Disco I. I don't think there is such thing as simply cutting the body. The only exterior thing that I have noticed is that the Disco I turn signals have a rounded top edge vs. the square edge of the Disco II. The current fenders may be able to be modified to be square resulting in not needing new fenders. | ||
| Peter Sharratt (Gummikuh) New Member Username: Gummikuh Post Number: 17 Registered: 02-2003 |
Hi all This is interesting, are we talking about the lights with overlapping lenses? If anyone has done this to a D1 then let us know how it went, as it would look trick. Pete S. | ||
| Carter Simcoe (Carter) Senior Member Username: Carter Post Number: 2106 Registered: 04-2002 |
arrrrgggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh | ||
| Jason Gustavson (Prescottj) Senior Member Username: Prescottj Post Number: 490 Registered: 12-2002 |
I feel your pain carter | ||
| michael burt (Mikeyb) Member Username: Mikeyb Post Number: 167 Registered: 03-2002 |
springs, sliders, shocks, lockers, brake lines, rack, lights...or...headlights. hmmmmmmm, let me think about that one. | ||
| Usoff Tsao (Usoff_tsao) New Member Username: Usoff_tsao Post Number: 10 Registered: 02-2003 |
are they HID like on the new RR? if they are.. 230 bucks seems like a great deal | ||
| Chris Marcel (Gumarcel) Member Username: Gumarcel Post Number: 157 Registered: 11-2002 |
No doubt they would be HID lights, since I don't think you can get them on a discovery, not sure. But if they were that much, why the hell would you spend all that money just to have it fitted in? Chris | ||
| Corey (Discobro) Member Username: Discobro Post Number: 118 Registered: 12-2002 |
All that cash to fit them in doesn't seem worth it. I posted a thread about this about two months ago and was scoffed at - thanks Carter  . Anyway it seemed like an OK idea at the time but I would much rather have a new lift, tires, sliders, Safari rack, etc, etc. for the cost of fitting the damn lights in. I say if you really want them there will be custom made ones to fit D1's in a year or so. They got em for every other car - eventually the Disco. | ||
| Blue (Bluegill) Senior Member Username: Bluegill Post Number: 2119 Registered: 02-2002 |
what's wrong with your current headlights? if you need a new headlight(s) or you're after a new look, can't you do a straight swap for regular old D2 headlights (similar to D1 headlights, but they have a black rounded look)? | ||
| Corey (Discobro) Member Username: Discobro Post Number: 119 Registered: 12-2002 |
I think that the shape of the D1 lights to the D2 lights are different (including the early D2s) and they don't just plug in. | ||
| John Abrams (Jabra2) New Member Username: Jabra2 Post Number: 31 Registered: 02-2003 |
There is nothing wrong with my current headlights...I just want something different without stepping "up" to a 2003. I personally think the 99-02 D2 lights are too plain and look too much like the D1's to even bother with messing around with them. I have every other mod mentioned in the replies already and then some, with lockers on order. I think I'm just addicted to doing stuff to my truck, as I'm constantly looking for ways to make it different and perform better on the trails, without sacrificing too much on-road safety. I've dumped a ton of hard-earned money into my rig and feel like it would be a much bigger waste to move onto a more poorly performing (off road of course) D2, or any other 4x4 for that matter. The only thing I like better about the '03's are the headlights. (4.6 ain't bad either, but not worth it...it's like being a blubbery 400-lb. competitive runner and losing maybe 50 lbs...you'd be quicker and more agile on pavement, but you'd still be a fat ass and a horrible athlete.) A trip to West Coast Choppers this summer should be in order...imagine a tricked out Jesse James Discovery...now that would be bad ass. But I doubt he'd even mess with anything as pansy as our British Hummer wannabe trucks, unless it was to turn it into some crazy fruit-picking machine or something for Monster Garage. And my apologies to Carter...he's obviously dedicated his life being glued to his computer, what with his 2100+ posts. Newbies like me must be like the painful sores on the asses of the DiscoWeb gods that they've earned from the many hours upon hours at their seats. Don't get me wrong, I really appreciate the helpful input from everyone, but I can't help but laugh at those who take the time to try to regularly shoot people down who have legitimate questions or complain about them or take the time to rudely say "do a search" without giving any other helpful or polite input. Really reminds me of the computer techie played by Jimmy Fallon on SNL. There will be a day that every question that could possibly be asked has already been asked, and if the "do a search" thing continues, DiscoWeb will die. And that wouldn't bother me at all, because it would be a helluva great archive of info, but the Carterese people would I'm sure become horribly depressed about destroying something that has brought them so much joy. Arguing online is like the Special Olympics, even if you win you're still retarded, so I'll just quit while I'm ahead. But all I ask is to stop picking on the newbies, cuz we're what's keeping you alive. | ||
| Carter Simcoe (Carter) Senior Member Username: Carter Post Number: 2107 Registered: 04-2002 |
yeah I'm getting surgically separated from this thing sometime next week, I'm looking forward to having a lot more spare time. Aside from my personal opinions on how ridiculous and ricer-like this mod is the fact still remains that there are at least 10 of these threads in the archives and they all got the same responses this one will likely get. There are always going to be new questions that come up as people think of and engineer new things to do to these trucks but stuff like this has been beaten to death and I don't think it is what is keeping the site alive. Once again, beat the lights as hard as this dead horse has been beaten and they will surley pop in there eventually...... | ||
| Enoch Snyder (Esnyder) New Member Username: Esnyder Post Number: 17 Registered: 10-2002 |
I think we should all retrofit RR Classic headlights... For some reason any odd things I want to do to my truck move it BACK in time, not forward! Carter and I will do it and write an endless thread about it. | ||
| Carter Simcoe (Carter) Senior Member Username: Carter Post Number: 2110 Registered: 04-2002 |
he he | ||
| Gil Stevens (Gil) Member Username: Gil Post Number: 225 Registered: 02-2002 |
"I think that the shape of the D1 lights to the D2 lights are different (including the early D2s) and they don't just plug in." yeah they do, they literally just plug in. and that will run ya what? $100. there ya go, new headlights for $100. | ||
| Blue (Bluegill) Senior Member Username: Bluegill Post Number: 2120 Registered: 02-2002 |
Thanks Gil. That's a worthy endeavor in my book, but only after something happens to my current 91,000 mile headlights (they stop working, shatter, etc). And John, I don't care what you do with your own money...that's why it's yours! | ||
| Mike Rupp (Mike_rupp) Member Username: Mike_rupp Post Number: 169 Registered: 02-2002 |
If you are going to "upgrade" your headlights, why not get e-code headlights? They have a much better light pattern than the DOT code headlights. Get a new wiring harness, or make one, get some higher wattage bulbs and for less than $200 you have an actual improvement. There's only one downside, its not a mod that everyone will notice and get all excited about. | ||
| Gil Stevens (Gil) Member Username: Gil Post Number: 226 Registered: 02-2002 |
blue, the day will come when they shatter. I broke 3 D1 headlights, but no d2 heads. I dont know if the glass is thicker or not, but they seemed to stop my headlight breaking habit. if you must alter the headlights, why not just get those swanky blue (no pun intended) bulbs. They sure are cool. | ||
| David Caton (Catonincarolina) Member Username: Catonincarolina Post Number: 53 Registered: 05-2002 |
Carter , Just step away from the computer ( Go Fishing ) and please what ever you do dont click on links that read 03 headlights...... even if you are thinking they refer in some way to a part of a womans body...... | ||
| Kennith P. Whichard III (Kennith) Member Username: Kennith Post Number: 240 Registered: 05-2002 |
Mike, Explain e-code headlights, what's this all about? Cheers, Kennith | ||
| Carter Simcoe (Carter) Senior Member Username: Carter Post Number: 2115 Registered: 04-2002 |
Thanks David, actually a solid 9 days of fishing (and grilling, wheeling and drinking -NOT AT THE SAME TIME) is starting tomorrow. The inside, roof, and rear bike rack of the disco is going to have to somehow fit two pontoon boats, two kayaks, two bikes, enough food and beer for 9 days and two people, camping gear, and fishing gear (LOTS). Everyone wish me luck for the 2 1/2 hours of this trip that will be interstate I'll be back to bother everyone the Sunday after next. | ||
| Mike Rupp (Mike_rupp) Member Username: Mike_rupp Post Number: 170 Registered: 02-2002 |
Kennith, E-code are European specification headlights. The pattern is more focused than the DOT (Department of Transportation) pattern. One small problem; there not legal to use on the roads. They do make a big difference especially when you use better bulbs. I use the 55low/100 high. | ||
| Peter Matusov (Pmatusov) Senior Member Username: Pmatusov Post Number: 571 Registered: 09-2002 |
Mike, it is not only more focused - the pattern is different. And I can attest to the fact that Euro headlights blind oncoming drivers much less than the DOT-spec. Euro headlights have a ~150-degree-v-shaped upper boundary of the beams, with left leg of the vee horizontal, and right - tilted up. That gives better illumination of the shoulder without shining too much light towards the oncoming traffic. With E-code headlights, you can step up the bulb power significantly, up to ~80W from 55W low beams, before the oncoming drivers might notice the difference. somehow, my '68 wagoneer has european-pattern headlights. go figure... peter | ||
| Jack Parker (Jack) Member Username: Jack Post Number: 113 Registered: 03-2002 |
Peter, Different subject, but my father-in-law drove wagoneers up until they stopped making them, and then kept the last one until it was trashed out. He has a roofing business, and hunts almost everyday of deer season. He gave every one a workout -mud, rocks, beach (outer banks), pulling boats, work trailers - you name it and those wagoneers just kept going. Little stuff like rusty panels and electronics would break, but that was a tough vehicle. I remember reading a comparison back in the 80's in some auto mag between a RR and wagoneer and they called it a tie - the wagoneer had quadra-trac system, as did my father-in-laws. I've always thought they should bring back the wagoneer to compete with the range rover, albeit at a lower price. Jack | ||
| Greg Hirst (Gregh) Member Username: Gregh Post Number: 117 Registered: 10-2002 |
Peter's right- very sharp and focused cut-off for euro lights and much better and effective at putting light where you need it (low and right) and away from oncoming vehicles. That's one reason why cars brought over from "the continent" are required to have little shields installed over headlights when driving in Britain to keep from blinding oncoming drivers. I use E-code (Bosch, Hella or Autoroche w/55/100's and relays) on all my vehicles except Audi S4 with stock HID. | ||
| Garrett (Rover7592) Member Username: Rover7592 Post Number: 42 Registered: 03-2003 |
Where can a man get some euro headlights or something that looks better than the stock headlights? Also has anyone ever tried to put the '03 headlights on a Disco I? | ||
| Jason T. Barker (Speedminded) Member Username: Speedminded Post Number: 127 Registered: 10-2002 |
The euro headlights aren't going to look differant (except maybe the black plastic trim like on the TDi's) just the focus of the beam is differant. If everyone here wants to give me $5-10 each I'll do it and tell you about it. Even write up a tech on it. ---'03 retrofit | ||
| John Moore (Jmoore) Senior Member Username: Jmoore Post Number: 505 Registered: 10-2002 |
So Jason, are you saying you come here for free advice, but are going to charge everyone to write up a tech piece? Lame! | ||
| Jason T. Barker (Speedminded) Member Username: Speedminded Post Number: 132 Registered: 10-2002 |
...I just don't want to spend my own money on the conversion. I have plenty of things I should be doing to my vehicle before worrying about the way the headlights look and they perform great as they are now with the upgraded bulbs so why should I change. | ||
| Brian Friend (Brianfriend) Senior Member Username: Brianfriend Post Number: 551 Registered: 09-2002 |
Damb...I am not even worthy to have read this thread. My pass. healight is held up with duct tape. | ||
| Garrett (Rover7592) Member Username: Rover7592 Post Number: 47 Registered: 03-2003 |
Duct tape works on everything, aint no shame in that. | ||
| Carl D. (Cdoug3) Member Username: Cdoug3 Post Number: 41 Registered: 01-2003 |
There are many people on this board who are very closed minded to new or different things including the use of the new headlights. I don't think that the '03 headlights will work in the D1 without significant costs, it would probably be cheaper to buy a d2 and retrofit them or an '03. If you are looking for better beam patterns then purchase the E-code headlight housings, the beam pattern is much sharper and more focused in the right area. I have e-code headlights on both my audis and I would say it is definetly worth doing as it greatly improves night driving. By the way I dont think those new '03 headlights are "Ricer" whoever thinks that is confused. |
