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Ashley Ryan Williams (Groverrover)
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Post Number: 7
Registered: 07-2002
Posted on Sunday, March 23, 2003 - 09:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

i was wanting to lift my 97 Disco 4 inches or more and was looking through the boards at those who have had such work done to theirs. Well, i found not many had Rovers like this and thats another reason I'd like to. Just to be different. I have found Green Monster springs that have a wide range of lifts. Any comment on how well this srings behave off road would be appreciated. Also, what would i need in addition to springs and shocks? I know i need radius arms and brake lines. What else should i get to allow the fullest articulation possible? My brother did 4 inches on his Jeep and somehow ruined his driveshaft and rear axle. I'd like to avoid this on my Rover. Thanks for all help and opinions.
 

Mark Devereux (Groupw)
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Post Number: 26
Registered: 12-2002
Posted on Sunday, March 23, 2003 - 09:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

You likely have to change your front driveshaft to a double cardon. As far as articulation in the rear, you would do well to go to cones as well as relocate your upper and lower shock mounts to accomodate longer shocks. To improve articulation in the front, you could go with shorter springs and spacers to gain drop or you could bite the bullet and do a 3 link. I'm told that you can also change to soft, radius arm bushings, but I have also been warned against this.
I am also thinking about the 4 inchers. I already have the drive shaft and radius arms to match my 3 inch lift though.
 

Glenn Guinto (Glenn)
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Username: Glenn

Post Number: 519
Registered: 02-2002
Posted on Sunday, March 23, 2003 - 09:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post


quote:

Well, i found not many had Rovers like this and thats another reason I'd like to.




It can be done, but be prepared to break a lot of shit. I've seen them. It's not fun. That's exactly the reason why you don't see a lot.


quote:

...ruined his driveshaft and rear axle.




Those are amongst some of the items that you'll eventually f-up. Basically just about every component that you can go HD with, go HD, especially if you're going to bigger tires.

Simplest way of putting it, to do this kind of thing, you need one major component. A Heavy Duty wallet full of cash. (or credit cards ) Good luck and don't forget to send pics to Ho when your done!

Glenn
 

Brian Friend (Brianfriend)
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Post Number: 553
Registered: 09-2002
Posted on Sunday, March 23, 2003 - 10:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I also am considering going higher. Right now I am 2" with hd springs but I am going to go to 35" tires. The original idea was 1" spacer and 2" body but after investigating what is involved with a body lift I have abandoned that idea. I am going to try the 35" without additional lift. Read: sawzall and using flares. Of course, going to 35 will make the next step to 37 even that much more interesting. Keep us posted on the progress.

I don't think you will have problems with the axles and diffs and stuff like that. I think you will have problems with drive shafts and angles. Of course you will also need to do some camber adjustment and radius and all kinds of other stuff if you want to drive the thing to the trail. This is an exciting project.
 

Ashley Ryan Williams (Groverrover)
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Post Number: 8
Registered: 07-2002
Posted on Sunday, March 23, 2003 - 10:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

it may be a year before i actually get around to doing this. i am a broke ass college student just barely making my payments for it every month. i just want to get started early on my plans for this project so i will know how much money i will need to do it as well as how much i should have to replace what i break. as for tires, im planning on running a 33x11.5.
 

Blake Luse (Muddyrover)
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Post Number: 777
Registered: 02-2002
Posted on Sunday, March 23, 2003 - 10:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

yeah coming from another broke ass college student, it will be awhile.
 

James (Jimmyg)
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Post Number: 190
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Monday, March 24, 2003 - 01:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I'm with you. Broke ass JMU kid here. I am going to 4 inch RTE lift. I have 3 inch springs, 1 inch spacers, RTE rear links, RTE front radius arms, RTE cones and upper and lower shock mounts, OME N-73 shocks in front with above spacer mounting, 6300's Biltein's in the rear for sick travel. GCR AR steel rims with 265/75 MT/R's which will soon be 285/75. ARB in the rear. I have done this over several years as I'm a college student for life. I've had many problems so don't hesitate to ask me for advise.
James
p.s. Tom woods CV in the front and GBR shaft in the rear.
 

Nadim Samara (Discodino)
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Username: Discodino

Post Number: 19
Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Monday, March 24, 2003 - 02:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Hold it there...why do a 4" suspension lift? Its insane...I was running a 4" suspension lift back when the right side of my brain was not operational, and it was HELL...the truck did not even perform well on the trail. After I sat down with this geek that was majoring in physics and dynamics and a lot of other "ics", he explained it to me.

In plain English, you have to have the lowest COG. When climbing with a tall truck, the "point of traction" transfers to a wee bit behind the rear wheels...the taller you go, the further it gets. Ideally, that "point of traction" should be as close as possible to the rear tires.

After I was convinced, I took off all four 2" blocks, and tried wheeling it (with 32" swampers). Fine, its not sexy, but my wheeling buddies chnged from <32">35" trucks and all were amazed, and so was I, from the Disco's ability!

That geek got a nice treat from me when I introduced him to a shitloads of chicks...hehehe...

Anyways, back to the subject. With all that said however, I will be 36-37 in June (MTR or SX).

That Will be done by keeping the HD OME 2" suspension, adding the RTE 2" bodylift, and the Rangie Spares flares. Simple and effective. The brake lines have been upgraded to Paragon's and the shocks have been chosen for a LOT of drop.
Wheel will be either 15x8 or 15x10 with 0-2" backspacing, thereby allowing for gains in width. No rack, and a lot of heavy parts laid on the bottom will help in that stability as well.

I am not trying to tell you how to do it, just giving you my input that 4" suspension is somethign I tried and did NOT work at ALL. If you are going with +37"s, eventually, you have to go above 2" suspension lift.

Goodluck, and post pics!
 

Ashley Williams (Groverrover)
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Username: Groverrover

Post Number: 9
Registered: 07-2002
Posted on Monday, March 24, 2003 - 07:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

i'm not too worried about loosing center of gravity and having my climbing abilities affected. i live in Wilmington, North Carolina about 3 miles from the ocean so i have yet to find anything to climb that was any more of a threat than a speed bump. im dealing with deep sand and mud around here.

p.s. Nadim- i have experience mixing chicks and off-roading, i personally can't stand the bitching, whining, and crying from them whether im going alone or they're coming with me. When we go off-roading here, we leave them at home. I'll take a higher center of gravity instead of a chick anyday.
 

D. Chapman (1hank1)
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Post Number: 81
Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Monday, March 24, 2003 - 08:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I have a total of 4" on mine. 2" body and 2" suspension. I am running 33's and that is really as big as I want it. I would not mind having 35's but the handling sucks on the road now. If this is going to be your daily driver and you want 4" suspension, you are looking a lot of money. New drive shaft, fixing the angle on your rear drive shaft, brake lines, shocks, shock mounts, HD axles for bigger tires, probley new diffs ect... All this on top of the new springs and tires. Heck with the disco trying to impress people, go buy a bad ass hot rod that will do 0-60 in 3 seconds. It would cost about the same. On the other hand im sure Rovertym would love to have your business.
 

Phillip Perkinson (Rover4x4)
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Post Number: 71
Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Monday, March 24, 2003 - 10:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

get coil overs and long control and trailin arms for that added flex.


Dont Rovertym have 5" springs now?
 

Land Rover Certified Used A**hole (Jason)
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Username: Jason

Post Number: 393
Registered: 04-2002
Posted on Monday, March 24, 2003 - 10:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Doesn't High Jacker make a 10" lift kit for LRs like they do for every other vehicle?
Sheesh...go big or go home...
 

Roland Kutasi (Disco1)
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Post Number: 26
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Monday, March 24, 2003 - 11:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

If you have US$ 4000-$5000 all you need to do is fit a set of Maxi-Drive Axle portal drop boxes onto each wheel. This give you 5" of lift along with a wider track of 6 1/2" and a reduction of 1.3:1. No need to change anything.
 

Nadim Samara (Discodino)
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Username: Discodino

Post Number: 21
Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Tuesday, March 25, 2003 - 01:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Roland...
Those protals have been on my Santa's X-mas list for the psat 5 years (since I was 20...)!!!

Ashley, I am 100% with you about the bitching and whining. BUT, there are exceptions to the rule, and I have a couple of lady friends that LOVE the rattling, mud, rocks, water, and I love it that they love it!...My girlfriend on the other hand does not come with me. I "tried" her once, with a great outing, but all she did was bitch, whine, nag, study (she brought her books with her), complain, asked the WORST questions...you get my point. So now SHE begs ME to come, and I firmly do not allow her. One of those lady friends I previously mentioned was my co-driver in one comp I ran in Lebanon...She did great!

I say go portals + flares and slap 39" Michelins!

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