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     Greg (Gparrish) Senior Member Username: Gparrish Post Number: 1157 Registered: 04-2002 |
I've read through the archives and found that the consensus seems to be that most people like Mobile One Synthetic Gear oil here in the States, I could be wrong, but I have a question. I have some new found time on my hands and plan to change my diff fluid and I see mentions of a pump to get the fluid in. What is this and where would I find it? Is the job as simple as open the drain plug and let it rip? Then cork the hole and refill via this pump above into the fill hole? Also, do most people do this with their south down guards on? Mine have holes to get to the plugs, but seems like they would collect any leak or run off fluid. | ||
| Joe M. (Little_joe) Member Username: Little_joe Post Number: 90 Registered: 11-2002 |
You don't need a pump to get fluids in the diffs, just squeeze the bottle contents in. Always remove the fill plug before the drain plug - just in case, and it helps drain faster. Sorry, can't help w/ the diff protectors. joe | ||
| Greg (Gparrish) Senior Member Username: Gparrish Post Number: 1158 Registered: 04-2002 |
So, when I go to look for gear fluid it will come in a small enough bottle to be able to get it up to the hole? I'm guessing you can tell I've never done this before.  I was downsized at work on Monday so I've got some time on my hands to get some projects completed while I'm doing my job search. I have 20k miles on the clock so I'm not sure they need changing, but I like to be preventative when possible. Thanks, Greg | ||
| Greg (Gparrish) Senior Member Username: Gparrish Post Number: 1159 Registered: 04-2002 |
PS - Does anyone know if it would have been changed on a 15k service at the dealer? | ||
| Michael Noe (Noee) Senior Member Username: Noee Post Number: 527 Registered: 03-2002 |
They didn't do it on my 15K. Yeah, you can do it without a pump, but the pump really makes it easier IMO. You can get the pumps at AutoZone or Advance Auto, whatever. I use an old 1 gallon oil container, the pump screws right on. If the diff guards have holes for access to the fill holes, then you should have no problems. It's a quick job. | ||
| Greg (Gparrish) Senior Member Username: Gparrish Post Number: 1160 Registered: 04-2002 |
Thanks Michael. I'll try it today if time permits. I'll look for the pump when I buy fluid. Seems like it might be cheaper in the long run this way as you could buy gear oil in bulk bottles. Is 1.7 liters per diff correct? | ||
| Joe M. (Little_joe) Member Username: Little_joe Post Number: 91 Registered: 11-2002 |
The pump will come in very handy when you do your transfer case. My diffs took 2+ qts. I jacked up the long side of the axles, opposite the drain hole, to get as much old fluid out as possible. The offset of the drain hole leaves a bit in there if you do this on a flat surface. joe | ||
| Greg (Gparrish) Senior Member Username: Gparrish Post Number: 1161 Registered: 04-2002 |
Cool. Thanks again for the information. | ||
| Peter (Pete) New Member Username: Pete Post Number: 13 Registered: 03-2003 |
I ended up taking the super lazy route. Got a drill powered pump at http://www.go2marine.com/frameset.jsp?servletPath=/g2m/action/GoBPage/id/52013F/ hiLiteSku/52013/categoryId/13298 Then bought the large 5 gal bucket. Used the pump to fill a small pail which has marks for the appropriate fluid levels. Then just hit reverse on the drill and pump out of the pail into the dif. Quick and easy without all the manual pumping. That being said, the hand pumps usually work fine if you get the right one. Some out there leak if they aren't on the same brand bottle. If you get eth quart bottles they have a tapered end (like a caulking tube) so you can cut it to the right size and squeeze away. This is something that has always bugged me though, and I'm sure people here have different opinions, but the manual says the difs only need 3.8 US pints = 1.9 quarts. But I've heard people before quoting they need 2.4 quarts. Anyone have a "real" answer? thanks pwc | ||
| John Davies (John_davies2) New Member Username: John_davies2 Post Number: 16 Registered: 02-2003 |
Pete: the drill powered pump is cool, but how do you clean it out afterwards? Do you just stick it in a zip-lock bag and let it ooze? I use a hand powered pump, and most of the residual oil will drain out overnight, and a quick flush with clean safety solvent gets the rest out. Does that approach work with the drill pump? | ||
| Michael Noe (Noee) Senior Member Username: Noee Post Number: 528 Registered: 03-2002 |
Yeah, I've pulled the trick Joe mentions too, mine always takes just over 2 quarts in the diffs. | ||
| Paul T. Schram (Paulschram) Senior Member Username: Paulschram Post Number: 1181 Registered: 02-2002 |
I buy gear oil in five gallon pails- usually save a few bucks that way. As for the pumps, you guys are pussies! I've tried a bunch of different ideas, including glorified IVs, pumps, etc. I keep going back to the quart bottle with a piece of tubing on the end, it isn't even that hard filling swivels this way. I don't bother to measure the volume I'm putting in, I just pour until it's full! Peace, Paul | ||
| Jaime (Blueboy) Senior Member Username: Blueboy Post Number: 591 Registered: 02-2002 |
second that on Paul's fill method and way to judge if full. just keep pouring until it flows out. Jaime | ||
| John Moore (Jmoore) Senior Member Username: Jmoore Post Number: 523 Registered: 10-2002 |
Greg, sorry to hear about your gig. There is much consolidation and layoffs right now in the music biz. Uncertain times... Hope everything works out. FYI - I have a simple hand pump for the diff oil I bought at autozone. I fill till it oozes out. You can most likely make something similar our of shampoo pump and a piece of tubing. I find the pump helpful and also use it for the t-case. -John | ||
| Paul T. Schram (Paulschram) Senior Member Username: Paulschram Post Number: 1186 Registered: 02-2002 |
I didn't know Grag was employed in the music business-my sympathies as well. The music industry is populated by muggers, whores, thieves and pimps-those are the good guys. Playing Rock N Roll promoter cost me more than my Disco does. Peace, Paul | ||
| Blue (Bluegill) Senior Member Username: Bluegill Post Number: 2136 Registered: 02-2002 |
As for the pumps, you guys are pussies! I've tried a bunch of different ideas, including glorified IVs, pumps, etc. I keep going back to the quart bottle with a piece of tubing on the end, it isn't even that hard filling swivels this way. Us real men don't even need the tubing on the end of the quart bottle.  LOL, el cheapo hand pump is your friend when you're filling the tcase. A pump is just carpal tunnel syndrome on the diffs. | ||
| Paul T. Schram (Paulschram) Senior Member Username: Paulschram Post Number: 1188 Registered: 02-2002 |
Blue: Stop muscling in on my gig-stick to the environmental stuff and leave the health & safety to the professionals! | ||
| Greg (Gparrish) Senior Member Username: Gparrish Post Number: 1162 Registered: 04-2002 |
Well, I went down to Pepboys for some gear oil and the selection was pathetic, but it is the only auto parts store around me here so it had to do. I wanted to get mobil one, but they only had one quart bottle which would not be nearly enough, so I ended up getting a couple of gallon jugs of 75/90 Stalube and the matching hand pump. Any opinions on Stalube before I use this stuff? As far as my job, I wasn't in the music industry, I worked for a division of Zurich North America (insurance) that specialized in the guarantee of construction contracts (surety bonding). Thanks for the well wishes though. I'm not sure what I want to do now that I get a second leash on life sort of speak, but I'm starting my looking right away. | ||
| Greg (Gparrish) Senior Member Username: Gparrish Post Number: 1163 Registered: 04-2002 |
Okay, here comes a question that will show my ignorance......... When I drain and change the diff fluid, does it also change the axle fluid? Or is that a totally separate fluid? Just curious. | ||
| Greg (Gparrish) Senior Member Username: Gparrish Post Number: 1164 Registered: 04-2002 |
http://www.crcindustries.com/gallery.asp?action=viewimage&categoryid=43&text=&imageid=1414&box=&shownew= Here is a link to the manufacturer site  | ||
| Peter (Pete) New Member Username: Pete Post Number: 14 Registered: 03-2003 |
John, I let it drain most out back into the pail, which is dedicated for gear lubes (10Qt. as compared to the 5 gal bucket), and then take both hose ends and point them up, wipe them off and wrap in a bit of shop towel and throw it back in the original bag so the pump is on the bottom. Then just put it on the shelf so the ends stay up. Try it once and you won't go back to using the hand pump. Especially when it takes all of 20-30 seconds to get all your oil in. Plus in a worst case scenario, if you couldn't get the drain plug out, you could pump most of the old oil out. I agree with the quart bottles for the swivels. Did it last night and works really well. Greg, about the dif guards. I don't know about the SD ones but most have a small hole in the very bottom to allow that extra little bit to eventually drain. pwc | ||
| Blue (Bluegill) Senior Member Username: Bluegill Post Number: 2139 Registered: 02-2002 |
just leave the diff guards on - that's why the holes are there. | ||
| John Moore (Jmoore) Senior Member Username: Jmoore Post Number: 524 Registered: 10-2002 |
Paul, I didn't mean to infer that Greg was in the music biz, I am. I read his profile that he works for an isurance company and I know that business is going through many changes like my industry, so I was trying to be sympathetic. "muggers, whores, thieves and pimps" - Ouch, and I thought I was a pretty nice guy... -John | ||
| Greg (Gparrish) Senior Member Username: Gparrish Post Number: 1166 Registered: 04-2002 |
Nobody commented on the Sta-Lube product though...... Is this stuff worth using? Or should I not put it in for some reason? Seems like this is about all that Napa carries too according to their website. I've been unsuccessful in finding the mobil one product in my area. Also, is this gonna change the fluid in the axles? Or is that fluid separate? Thanks Greg | ||
| Bill Bettridge (Billb) Senior Member Username: Billb Post Number: 716 Registered: 02-2002 |
Greg Stalube stuff seems to be fine - I've been using it in multiple vehicles (including 2 Rovers) for a number of years. It's cheap enough that I change it regularly. Bill PS - pussy or not - I like my drill powered pump to - cheap, fast, and easy - so there! -B | ||
| Greg (Gparrish) Senior Member Username: Gparrish Post Number: 1167 Registered: 04-2002 |
Thanks Bill. Pepboys and Napa are about the same price for the 1 gallon jugs at $21 each, although Napa has a 5 gallon bucket for $60 I think. Maybe I should return the two 1 gallon jugs and spend $20 more for the 5 gallong bucket. | ||
| Paul T. Schram (Paulschram) Senior Member Username: Paulschram Post Number: 1189 Registered: 02-2002 |
Greg-man, too bad. My wife is a Farmers adjuster-very stable as long as there are car wrecks. John: Do you necessarily disagree with my comment about the music biz? Promotions is rife with shady characters. Didn't mean to "Diss" you personally. Although I have been very vocal to members of your management staff. Peace, Paul | ||
| Bill Bettridge (Billb) Senior Member Username: Billb Post Number: 719 Registered: 02-2002 |
Greg- that price seems high - I pay about $12 for a gallon jug of Stalube gear oil at Salvo (Baltimore). You don't need the variety that has the limited slip additive. Bill | ||
| Paul T. Schram (Paulschram) Senior Member Username: Paulschram Post Number: 1193 Registered: 02-2002 |
Bill: I pay about $25 for five gallons at Tractor Supply or about $20 from a friend of the kid's whose father owns the local oil distributor. If I buy it by the drum (we're getting close), the price will drop even more. | ||
| Greg (Gparrish) Senior Member Username: Gparrish Post Number: 1168 Registered: 04-2002 |
Oh? That was the only option they had in the 75/90 weight. They had two others that were like 85/90 and 80/145. I'll have to check around for other places to get this stuff in the future, like tractor supply. I used the stuf with limited slip in it, is that gonna be okay? Greg |
