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     Paul Kleinkramer (El_rover) New Member Username: El_rover Post Number: 3 Registered: 03-2003 |
I decided to try 235/85/16 OTR Mud tread retreads on my Disco. Here's the link http://www.high-tec-retreading.com/sizes.html I have never had retread before. Anyone who has can comment? Are they OK? or am I going to die in a firey Fierstone style roll over crash? So far I have taken a bit of abuse over these retreads from a couple of the Moderators. Anyone else here care to tell me my head ain't right??? pk | ||
| Leslie N. Bright (Leslie) Senior Member Username: Leslie Post Number: 1940 Registered: 02-2002 |
1) ~$50, versus, say, ~$100 for an R/T from Tirerack. True, you've cut your initial outlay in half, but... 2) You're driving a newer Land Rover, not a Bronco II. 3) How many highway gators have you to dodge before? 4) How long will a retread last? The warranty is for 24k mi, most new tires are 36k or longer. (But is the retread tire still going to be viable past 24k? versus a new one?) It's common to see retreads on Series Rovers imported over from the UK, but think about the highway speed at which a Series Rover is going to be travelling, compared to your Disco. IMHO, I'd cut costs elsewhere. I *might* consider putting a set of mudder retreads on a second set of rims, and use new tires for daily driving, but, I don't think I would there, either. IMHO, FWIW.... -L | ||
| Blue (Bluegill) Senior Member Username: Bluegill Post Number: 2132 Registered: 02-2002 |
You're absolutely insane, you sick bastard  | ||
| Paul T. Schram (Paulschram) Senior Member Username: Paulschram Post Number: 1184 Registered: 02-2002 |
That's Cheap Bastard, Blue, get with the program! Peace, Paul | ||
| Daniel Covaciu (Danielcovaciu) Member Username: Danielcovaciu Post Number: 78 Registered: 10-2002 |
Paul, your head ain't right! | ||
| Jaime (Blueboy) Senior Member Username: Blueboy Post Number: 592 Registered: 02-2002 |
you might also want to consider going with a larger CB tire and adding the Cheap Bastard lift to go along with it. Jaime | ||
| Blue (Bluegill) Senior Member Username: Bluegill Post Number: 2133 Registered: 02-2002 |
sorry...I meant to say, "you sick, cheap bastard" | ||
| Blue (Bluegill) Senior Member Username: Bluegill Post Number: 2134 Registered: 02-2002 |
hey Paul, were those driveline measurements in line with what you were thinking? | ||
| Paul Kleinkramer (El_rover) New Member Username: El_rover Post Number: 4 Registered: 03-2003 |
Well Paul, I have enough lift to keep the highway speed down to about 70 or 75 max. Beyond that, the Disco starts to sound and feel like a Cessna. Of course, I would not want suffer a major tire disintegration at that speed. I can't say that those highway alligators are necessarily from retreads, can you? I have had 3 tires delam and pitch a tread in my life and none of them were retreads. Also, those alligators look so big I figure they come from tractor-trailer rigs. The weight is all different. Those tires work much harder I think. Leslie, you ain't seen my Disco, you might mistake it for a Bronco II. Hehehehe. Blue, you know me and your right. I am a sick-cheap bastard. Don't think that I am convinced here. I just thought I would try retreads since you never really know if shit will work until you try it for yourself. You all can discuss these points after I am dead from the roll over crash. pk | ||
| Kyle Van Tassel (Kyle) Moderator Username: Kyle Post Number: 159 Registered: 11-2002 |
Did he says "Retread" ? Or was it "Retard" ?? I am confused. Or maybe its one that gets the other..... Oh well Kyle "Blow me" | ||
| Blue (Bluegill) Senior Member Username: Bluegill Post Number: 2142 Registered: 02-2002 |
ouch | ||
| Todd Nash (Nash) New Member Username: Nash Post Number: 6 Registered: 02-2003 |
When I was in high school and college I was a mechanic at a go-cart track. We loved retreads because they were dirt cheap. They were also fun because they trended to blowout and cause fun spinouts. I say go for it. Unless you do alot of interstate-type driving. | ||
| Paul Kleinkramer (El_rover) New Member Username: El_rover Post Number: 5 Registered: 03-2003 |
Yeah well Nash, I allready went for it. They are bought, mounted and Equaled. They work good all around. I just wonder if they will last and if they will kill me. | ||
| Peter J Blatt (Peteb) Member Username: Peteb Post Number: 110 Registered: 10-2002 |
A pal of mine ordered a set from them, for a trooper, once you figured in shipping, you're up to 65-70$ ea, and they did wear very quickly! 15k or so they were quite worn, and besides that, you're gonna get a load range c, if you're comphy with all that go get them, you know at pep boys, you can get a good mt for 95$ and a warrenty for 5$, so i geuss what i'm saying is, NNNNOOOOOOO dont get them. Peter | ||
| Peter Matusov (Pmatusov) Senior Member Username: Pmatusov Post Number: 586 Registered: 09-2002 |
Paul, of all people who ever called used a term "cheap bastard" on other than themselves, I don't know anyone with children. Let them all suck a big one, for they don't know jack shit. Leslie, the brand new Futuras with 30kmi projected life all but melted in less than 20, at a cost of $82 per tire. The 80k-rated Michelins rarely last 50 on a Disco, at a cost of... now it's more like 180 per tire. I've driven my dad's car on retreads for years and years in Russia, without a single delamination. I'd say go for it, but de-rate your highway speeds (given with rather warm summer in San Joaquin valley), and keep an eye on the thread and shoulders. peter | ||
| Peter Matusov (Pmatusov) Senior Member Username: Pmatusov Post Number: 587 Registered: 09-2002 |
ok, Blue makes an exception. OTOH, he's got just a lil baby yet, so he still doesn't know jack shit (so he can stay in the big suckers' group for now) Paul S. was only quoting, i hope | ||
| Paul T. Schram (Paulschram) Senior Member Username: Paulschram Post Number: 1191 Registered: 02-2002 |
Wow, I don't really know what or how I got it stirred up so badly. Don't take me seriously unless I'm giving technical direction. As for retreads, I have used them in the past (20 years ago). Had some dramatic blowouts and was glad my father was driving once as I think I would have stained my pants, judging from his hugging the steering wheel to try to maintain control. As for the tires I have on my truck, I spent more than $150 each for them, expect to get good mileage from them and expect them to protect me and my family. Driving 100 miles daily, I need the tread wear and safety. Peace, Paul | ||
| Blue (Bluegill) Senior Member Username: Bluegill Post Number: 2146 Registered: 02-2002 |
Shuddup Peter. My Irish daughter can kick your Ruskie son's ass. | ||
| dareDVL (Daredvl) New Member Username: Daredvl Post Number: 10 Registered: 03-2003 |
Yes, but if those 80k Michelins only last 50k don't you get an entire new set for free? | ||
| Peter Matusov (Pmatusov) Senior Member Username: Pmatusov Post Number: 589 Registered: 09-2002 |
Blue: when your irish daughter is ready to kick some ass, i'll have a ruskie grandson or something DareDVL - yeah right. peter | ||
| Blue (Bluegill) Senior Member Username: Bluegill Post Number: 2157 Registered: 02-2002 |
old fart | ||
| R. B. Bailey (Rover50987) Senior Member Username: Rover50987 Post Number: 449 Registered: 07-2002 |
The Army uses retread, so does all the government fleets. I probably wouldn't get them for my Disco, which drives long distances, but I would for my Series truck. http://landrover.mrbaileyshistory.net | ||
| Blue (Bluegill) Senior Member Username: Bluegill Post Number: 2158 Registered: 02-2002 |
I agree that retreads are the way to go when it's time for new tires on your fleet of Discoveries. | ||
| Peter Matusov (Pmatusov) Senior Member Username: Pmatusov Post Number: 590 Registered: 09-2002 |
blue, it's called "no birth control" fleet of discoveries... about what i'm looking at. |
