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Dick Walker (Wyo183121)
New Member Username: Wyo183121
Post Number: 35 Registered: 02-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, March 26, 2003 - 06:56 pm: |
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When in England at a fairly large conference, Colin Powell was asked by the Archbishop of Canterbury if our plans for Iraq were just an example of empire building by George Bush. He answered by saying that, "Over the years, the United States has sent many of its fine young men and women into great peril to fight for freedom beyond our borders. The only amount of land we have ever asked for in return is enough to bury those that did not return." It became very quiet in the room
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John Moore (Jmoore)
Senior Member Username: Jmoore
Post Number: 526 Registered: 10-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, March 26, 2003 - 07:08 pm: |
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WOW! |
   
Blue (Bluegill)
Senior Member Username: Bluegill
Post Number: 2143 Registered: 02-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, March 26, 2003 - 07:31 pm: |
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Powell should have followed it up with a full force backhanded bitch-slap and a resounding, "Nail that to your cross & worship it."
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thom mathie (Muskyman)
Senior Member Username: Muskyman
Post Number: 228 Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, March 26, 2003 - 09:59 pm: |
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hello hello!!! as I have said on here in the past ...the day we as a country take land or resources by force you can say we are wrong till then shut the fuck up protesters,france,Archbishop of Canterbury, and anyone else stupid enough to make such baseless treasonis comments. kudos Colin Powell....proud to have you represent me! |
   
Lawrence Tilly (L_tilly)
Member Username: L_tilly
Post Number: 126 Registered: 02-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, March 26, 2003 - 10:20 pm: |
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Wyo183121, Where did you get that quote from. I would love to reference it. -Lawrence |
   
Dick Walker (Wyo183121)
New Member Username: Wyo183121
Post Number: 37 Registered: 02-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, March 26, 2003 - 11:56 pm: |
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Lawrence It came in an EMAIL from a friend |
   
Sawyer (Stucky)
New Member Username: Stucky
Post Number: 5 Registered: 02-2003
| Posted on Thursday, March 27, 2003 - 09:49 am: |
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You can find the quote here, its a big article so just search for "bury" or something like that. http://www.state.gov/secretary/rm/2003/16869.htm |
   
Jaime (Blueboy)
Senior Member Username: Blueboy
Post Number: 596 Registered: 02-2002
| Posted on Thursday, March 27, 2003 - 10:39 am: |
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that article is from the economic summit in Davos which is not in England. I couldn't find the question or the quote. maybe I'm missing something, yet, it seems it is from another source which I also would like to read. anyone?? Jaime
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Stacey R Abend (Srafj40)
New Member Username: Srafj40
Post Number: 32 Registered: 03-2003
| Posted on Thursday, March 27, 2003 - 10:45 am: |
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After reading the text, I do think that empire building is what the former Archbishop is speaking about. It is a conversation in regards to the use of soft power, (aid-medical/food, trade, and money), as means to a wanted ends v. the use of hard power, (military). Mr. Powell in his answer says: "We have gone forth from our shores repeatedly over the last hundred years and we�ve done this as recently as the last year in Afghanistan and put wonderful young men and women at risk, many of whom have lost their lives, and we have asked for nothing except enough ground to bury them in, and otherwise we have returned home to seek our own, you know, to seek our own lives in peace, to live our own lives in peace. But there comes a time when soft power or talking with evil will not work where, unfortunately, hard power is the only thing that works". I think that Mr. Powell is letting the conference know that the world does not have to question the purpose of the United States. Can one 'infer' empire building? Yes.
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Jaime (Blueboy)
Senior Member Username: Blueboy
Post Number: 597 Registered: 02-2002
| Posted on Thursday, March 27, 2003 - 11:13 am: |
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that is what I also read. so guess the "quote" was paraphrased. still, a pretty cool statement. thx for the additional pair of eyes to find it. Jaime |
   
Stacey R Abend (Srafj40)
New Member Username: Srafj40
Post Number: 36 Registered: 03-2003
| Posted on Friday, March 28, 2003 - 05:07 pm: |
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Bump for Erik |
   
Mark & Bev Preston (Markp)
Member Username: Markp
Post Number: 175 Registered: 02-2002
| Posted on Friday, March 28, 2003 - 05:33 pm: |
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I posted this on the Politically Correct thread, but thought it places many events in perspective. Excellent points about US empire building. On Europe's Perfect Storm ... Mark Steyn: The Yanks are going home The Spectator (U.K.) ^ | 03/15/03 | Mark Steyn http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/863764/posts |
   
Christopher Dynak (Adtoolco)
Member Username: Adtoolco
Post Number: 152 Registered: 08-2002
| Posted on Friday, March 28, 2003 - 08:47 pm: |
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Awesome read Mark. I have never heard of Styne before. I will look for him now. |
   
Erik Olson (Jon)
Senior Member Username: Jon
Post Number: 352 Registered: 02-2002
| Posted on Friday, March 28, 2003 - 09:59 pm: |
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Stacey, You don't have to sell me on Powell - he's the only part of the administration I trust inherently. e |