| Author | Message | ||
     Rex D Stout (Rockhead) New Member Username: Rockhead Post Number: 2 Registered: 02-2003 |
2000 D2 with 55K miles, orig pads and rotors. While getting my MTR's balanced last week, found out my pads are down to about 20% of original, doesn't look like I have gotten into the rotors. The tire shop recommended replacing everything at once, for about $800, since "these are soft rotors and may not last with new pads". My question is this : If I change the pads only at this time, and a month from now decide I should also change the rotors, will the pads being worn to the old rotors need replacing again? I can change the pads myself, looks fairly straightforward on the EE website, but am a little unsure about the rotors. How hard is it to replace them? Does anyone know where some detailed rotor replacement pictoral instructions are posted? Thanks. | ||
| Peter Matusov (Pmatusov) Senior Member Username: Pmatusov Post Number: 585 Registered: 09-2002 |
whatever you do, get organic pads. LR genuine may be better than others. | ||
| Mark & Bev Preston (Markp) Member Username: Markp Post Number: 170 Registered: 02-2002 |
Rex, Get the rotors mic'd and figure out how much is left. Compare that with your mileage and that will give you a good idea how much is left. On my 98' D1 I needed front brakes at around 45K miles and the rotors were fine. - Mark | ||
| Jason T. Barker (Speedminded) Member Username: Speedminded Post Number: 156 Registered: 10-2002 |
For $800 I could probably fly roundtrip, take a taxi to your house, and change everything for you and still have money left over for sevaral meals and a place to stay. Takes less than 20 minutes to replace the front pads. I seriously doubt the rears even need to be replaced. Yes, the rotors are "disposable" but new pads are no harder than old pads (except the new pads may not be as smooth as the old pads for the first 4-5 times the brakes are applied, big deal?) You should be a able to get a full set of ceramic/organic pads for under $100. The rotors are normally $60-80 a pair. The reason why the rotors are supposebly "disposable" is because they have very little tolerance to be turned (machined smooth). They may be too thin and more apt to warp if ground down too much. If the pads have not gotten to the metal and started scrubbing and they are not warped then there is no reason to replace the rotors. | ||
| Greg Davis (Gregdavis) Senior Member Username: Gregdavis Post Number: 768 Registered: 08-2002 |
Rex, I have the same vehicle and replaced pads only at 40K mi. I got my new pads from Nathan at Discount Rovers and love them. Stopping power is the same, but wheel dust is non-existant. No squeaking either. Highly reccommended. | ||
| Paul Kleinkramer (El_rover) New Member Username: El_rover Post Number: 8 Registered: 03-2003 |
Rockhead, I have 4 times your mileage and have changed pads 3 times or so over 7 years. I have never given the rotors any thought since there is no problems evident. I recommend that you replace the pads with the genuine Lockheed stuff and save your cash to buy rotors when there is a problem you can identify. | ||
| Paul D. Morgan (V22guy) Senior Member Username: V22guy Post Number: 1367 Registered: 02-2002 |
Rex, "doesn't look like I have gotten into the rotors" Well that's a good sign and I would just go with pads. At 30K, My D2 needed new rotors and pads because I had "gotten into the rotors". The mic'd thickness was in tolerance, however there were circular grooves around the entire circumference of each rotor. I originally installed new pads and the squeaking and screeching was unbearable. As soon as everything was replaced, the squeaking stopped and that was 8000 miles ago. FWIW, Paul '00 Pig | ||
| Paul T. Schram (Paulschram) Senior Member Username: Paulschram Post Number: 1192 Registered: 02-2002 |
I'm of the same mind as the other Paul. I too have 165K+ on my Disco-original rotors as far as I know. As for the original Lockheed pads, the original pads were most likely Ferodo (Ferodo is one of the largest OEM suppliers, but I believe they were bought by Maremont). The most recent set I bought were OEM, bore a L/R P/N on the box, the insert said Delhpi, the pads themselves said Lockheed. Go figure! OEM, aftermarket, very little difference as this isn't something that Land Rover makes for themselves. As for rotors, the biggest issue with the wear is ensuring that the calipers are working. If the pads wear badly enough, the pistons can come out of their bores too far and become seized. This leads to rapidly (rabidly?) accelerated wear and will lead to cracking or shattering of the rotor when it wears. If one maintains their pads and cleans the exposed surfaces of the pistons before jamming them back into their bores, you should have long-lived rotors. | ||
| Rex D Stout (Rockhead) New Member Username: Rockhead Post Number: 3 Registered: 02-2003 |
Has anyone tried the Mintex pads? Is it really necessary to replace the hardware (springs, clips, bolts, etc.)? The LR pads come with the hardware, but you pay a lot more for that logo on the box. |
