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R. B. Bailey (Rover50987)
Senior Member Username: Rover50987
Post Number: 451 Registered: 07-2002
| Posted on Monday, March 31, 2003 - 11:59 pm: |
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A lot of us have been wondering about these Green Monsters from NorthwestParts.com. Well, I went and picked mine up today and I can tell you from first glance they are well made and definately heavy duty. These are not wimpy OME's or LR springs. I am a little worried... am I actually going to get these things to compress for articulation??? Well, I sat on top of one and, yes, it does have a soft feel on that first 1/2 - 1 inch bounce. (try not to imagine me bouncing on a spring in my garage...) So far, I'm impressed. I will try to get them on this week, and will give a full review when I do. I parked the Series in front of the Discovery and took a look at the two - the top of the roof of the Series is now as tall as the top of the adventure rack on the Disco - that is a good feeling, but pretty pathetic on the Disco's part. http://landrover.mrbaileyshistory.net |
   
Will Roeder (Will_roeder)
Senior Member Username: Will_roeder
Post Number: 596 Registered: 02-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, April 01, 2003 - 06:56 am: |
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OMEs are wimpy? interesting..... |
   
Daniel Covaciu (Danielcovaciu)
Member Username: Danielcovaciu
Post Number: 85 Registered: 10-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, April 01, 2003 - 08:44 pm: |
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R.B., did you end up going with the 2 or 3 inch springs? Which shocks did you get? I'm probably going to get a set of these also sometime this spring. Post some before and after pictures so I can see what it looks like. |
   
Todd Rooker (Tryrook)
New Member Username: Tryrook
Post Number: 37 Registered: 12-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, April 01, 2003 - 09:58 pm: |
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Daniel, If you check the archives, you will before and after pics of my Disco with the 3" green monsters. Note that the tires on the after picture are significantly taller than the tires on the before pic (replaced them right after the lift). |
   
R. B. Bailey (Rover50987)
Senior Member Username: Rover50987
Post Number: 452 Registered: 07-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, April 02, 2003 - 12:29 pm: |
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No, OME's aren't exactly wimpy, but one thing that turned me off was the lean factor in OME's. Unless I was to buy them from Expedition Exchange, and pay a lot more for them including shipping, I would get what I see on every truck with OME's. That lean that is built in to accomodate British trucks with RHD. -it's just my observations of the ones I have seen. Put it this way though, if I don't like these, I will go with OME. I am getting OME shocks for it today to finish up the project, and I might actually get it done by the end of the day if I don't get hailed on like yesterday! I will still have wimpy stock sized Firestone racing street tires on, so it will look a little gangly for a while until those are worn out. But I will take pictures. |
   
Will Roeder (Will_roeder)
Senior Member Username: Will_roeder
Post Number: 600 Registered: 02-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, April 02, 2003 - 12:44 pm: |
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What makes you think these springs wont lean? They are new, and relatively un-tested..... But hey, you can tell the flex good because you sat on them........right? ;) |
   
Carter Simcoe (Carter)
Senior Member Username: Carter
Post Number: 2143 Registered: 04-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, April 02, 2003 - 01:04 pm: |
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Thanks Will, I've been itching to say that for two days now  |
   
Steve Cooper (Scrover)
Senior Member Username: Scrover
Post Number: 259 Registered: 09-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, April 02, 2003 - 01:24 pm: |
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Carter, I thought you'd have a picture of a guy with a huge green spring sticking out his ass by now. The world needs to see that  |
   
Keith Kreutzer (Revor)
Member Username: Revor
Post Number: 173 Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, April 02, 2003 - 10:53 pm: |
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I'm not sure the world needs to see that;) |
   
R. B. Bailey (Rover50987)
Senior Member Username: Rover50987
Post Number: 453 Registered: 07-2002
| Posted on Thursday, April 03, 2003 - 05:26 pm: |
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No, no, I mean the built-in lean, the OME's are built uneven on purpose. No, the world does not need to see that... I have one stinking spring finally installed on the rear of the truck, (despite the thunderstorms and rain/sleet mix) and amazingly - the difference is quite pronounced in the improved ride quality. Unless there is some weakness in the long term, I would certainly recommend these. I can already feel a huge difference in the way the truck drives, takes corners, hits bumps and pot-holes, etc. It's as if that corner of the truck is a completely different vehicle. In a good way. I will try to get the time to put the rest of them on this weekend. |
   
Will Roeder (Will_roeder)
Senior Member Username: Will_roeder
Post Number: 606 Registered: 02-2002
| Posted on Thursday, April 03, 2003 - 05:30 pm: |
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I know that the OME's are built uneven...are the Green Monsters matched? or also uneven? |
   
Todd Rooker (Tryrook)
New Member Username: Tryrook
Post Number: 38 Registered: 12-2002
| Posted on Thursday, April 03, 2003 - 11:48 pm: |
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Andy @ NWP will do whatever you want with them. If you want extra length to account for a heavy ARB bumper w/winch, lights, etc., he will do it for you. I went with 3" all around and love them. Andy even changed the name of them from Green Benders to Green Monsters after my cheesy double entendre nickname for them in review I had posted about them awhile back. I am sure if you want to bring back some of that natural Rover sideways lean we all love, he would custom build the springs for that too! LOL |
   
R. B. Bailey (Rover50987)
Senior Member Username: Rover50987
Post Number: 454 Registered: 07-2002
| Posted on Friday, April 04, 2003 - 11:36 am: |
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The springs I got from him turned out to give me a .75" lift over what I THOUGHT was the stock lift measurements. My total was 20" or a little more in the rear (from hub to wheel well rim) with a full tank of fuel, my roof rack, and a toolbox in the cargo area. I was confused, the lift looked great, but it wasn't the size I was expecting. Andy allowed me to simply swap for a set of rears that are .5" taller than the first set I put on. this will give me more lift when I have the camper on and the roof rack loaded etc... Currently the springs he has have been tested, and built in prototype, anything other than what he shows on his web site is extra cost for him since he has to retool and reprototype to each measurement. The prices are, therefore, very good. I will be curious to see what type of articulation I get, since these are so beefy. But the silver truck on his web site sure looks like it is getting full articulation with it's 3" springs. They are even, not built with a lean. http://landrover.mrbaileyshistory.net
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R. B. Bailey (Rover50987)
Senior Member Username: Rover50987
Post Number: 473 Registered: 07-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, April 08, 2003 - 05:11 pm: |
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I have just completed my first test drive with my 2" lift springs from www.northwestparts.com They are exactly as I imagined they should be. They do actually have a soft ride - soft being comparative - in otherwords, they are stiffer than the stock springs, so you get more bump. But they are by no means annoying. And in fact, just as comfortable to ride on as my stocks were, but the stocks sloshed, these don't. The new OME shocks are also part of this. I have driven as fast as 50 mph so far with no vibrations. But as has been discussed in this fourm, that is probably dependent on your truck and if you decide to go above 2". The truck does sway more now, but not because of the springs, more because of the higher center of gravity. Basically it feels like I have a couple of fuel cans and a bag on the roof rack. However, the springs do stop the sway at a certain point, and the sway is only truely felt at speeds of 45 mph and higher. Below that, the truck handles much better in a turn. In fact, to get to my house you have to do a U-turn into my neighborhood and the truck did not lean. I will be testing for articulation at some point and will have pictures of that. Drawbacks? Well, the springs seem great, but they are not a fully tested product. I believe I am one of only a handfull of people with these on our trucks. We all like them though. The sway from the higher lift. And there is more road noise. The stiffer springs reverberate more. But again, not annoying. Thanks Andy. http://landrover.mrbaileyshistory.net
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Daniel Covaciu (Danielcovaciu)
Member Username: Danielcovaciu
Post Number: 95 Registered: 10-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, April 08, 2003 - 06:41 pm: |
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Glad you like your new springs. So how much lift did you end up getting over stock? I still havent decided between 2" or 3" yet. Dan |
   
Jason T. Barker (Speedminded)
Member Username: Speedminded
Post Number: 193 Registered: 10-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2003 - 01:14 am: |
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How long after ordering did it take until recieving the northwestparts springs? |
   
R. B. Bailey (Rover50987)
Senior Member Username: Rover50987
Post Number: 475 Registered: 07-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2003 - 11:49 am: |
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I went and picked up my springs. The measurements are 20" in front and 20.5" in rear (or maybe 21 and 21.5) can't remember. I will measure the total spring height for you also. I like it, just what I was looking for - not too high, not too low. I have put about 50 miles on them so far. I have noticed that having the truck higher does make it swing into corners more when above about 40 mph. Actually, it did it the same way before, but now it is a faster swing. However, when on the stock set-up, it would swing, then swing back, then slowly bounce with the centrifugal forces all the way through the corner. Now, it swings over very fast, but stops, and sticks like a rock all the way through the corner. So if you drive nice and smoothly, the set-up now is actually more comfortable than stock. I will put photos on my web site this weekend. http://landrover.mrbaileyshistory.net |