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Adrian Strata (Adrians)
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Post Number: 15
Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Wednesday, April 02, 2003 - 08:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I just got this and thought I would share it with everyone.


Who's Smarter?

By Cindy Osborne

The Hollywood group is at it again. Holding anti-war rallies, screaming about the Bush Administration, running ads in major newspapers, defaming the President

and his Cabinet every chance they get, to anyone and everyone who will listen. They publicly defile them and call them names like "stupid," "morons",and

"idiots". Jessica Lange went so far as to tell a crowd in Spain that she hates President Bush and is embarrassed to be an American.



So, just how ignorant are these people who are running the country? Let's look at the biographies of these "stupid", "ignorant", "moronic" leaders, and then at

the celebrities who are castigating them:



President George W. Bush

Received a Bachelors Degree from Yale University and an MBA from Harvard Business School. He served as an F-102 pilot for the Texas Air

National Guard. He began his career in the oil and gas business in Midland in 1975 and worked in the energy industry until 1986. He was elected Governor on

November 8, 1994, with 53.5 percent of the vote. In a historic reelection victory, he became the first Texas Governor to be elected to consecutive four-year terms

on November 3, 1998 winning 68.6 percent of the vote. In 1998 Governor Bush won 49 percent of the Hispanic vote, 27 percent of the African-American vote,

27 percent of Democrats and 65 percent of women. He won more Texas counties, 240 of 254, than any modern Republican other that Richard Nixon in 1972 and

is the first Republican gubernatorial candidate to win the heavily Hispanic and Democratic border counties of El Paso, Cameron and Hidalgo. (Someone began

circulating a false story about his I.Q. being lower than any other President. If you believed it, you might want to go to Urban Legends.Com and see the truth.)



Vice President Dick Cheney

Earned a B.A. in 1965 and a M.A. in 1966, both in political science. Two years

later, he won an American Political Science Association congressional

fellowship. One of Vice President Cheney's primary duties is to share with

individuals, members of Congress and foreign leaders, President Bush's vision to

strengthen our economy, secure our homeland and win the War on Terrorism.

In his official role as President of the Senate, Vice President Cheney regularly goes

to Capital Hill to meet with Senators and members of the House of

Representatives to work on the Administration's legislative goals. In his

travels as Vice President, he has seen first hand the great demands the war on

terrorism is placing on the men and women of our military, and he is proud of

the tremendous job they are doing for the United States of America.



Secretary of State Colin Powell

Educated in the New York City public schools, graduating from the City College of New York (CCNY), where he earned a Bachelor's Degree in geology.

He also participated in ROTC at CCNY and received a commission as an Army second lieutenant upon graduation in June 1958. His further academic

achievements include a Master of Business Administration Degree from George Washington University. Secretary Powell is the recipient of numerous U.S. and

foreign military awards and decorations. Secretary Powell's civilian awards include two Presidential Medals of Freedom, the President's Citizens Medal, the

Congressional Gold Medal, the Secretary of State Distinguished Service Medal, and the Secretary of Energy Distinguished Service Medal. Several schools

and other institutions have been named in his honor and he holds honorary degrees from universities and colleges across the country.



Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld

Attended Princeton University on Scholarship (AB, 1954) and served in the U.S. Navy (1954-57) as a Naval aviator. Congressional Assistant to Rep.

Robert Griffin (R-MI), 1957-59; U.S. Representative, Illinois, 1962-69; Assistant to the President, Director of the Office of Economic Opportunity,

Director of the Cost of Living Council, 1969-74; U.S. Ambassador to NATO, 1973-74; head of Presidential Transition Team, 1974; Assistant to the President,

Director of White House Office of Operations, White House Chief of Staff, 1974-77; Secretary of Defense, 1975-77



Secretary of Homeland Security Tom Ridge

Raised in a working class family in veterans' public housing in Erie. He earned a scholarship to Harvard, graduating with honors in 1967. After his first

year at The Dickinson School of Law, he was drafted into the U.S. Army, where he served as an infantry staff sergeant in Vietnam, earning the Bronze

Star for Valor. After returning to Pennsylvania, he earned his Law Degree and was in private practice before becoming Assistant District Attorney in Erie

County. He was elected to Congress in 1982. He was the first enlisted Vietnam combat veteran elected to the U.S. House, and was overwhelmingly re-elected

six times.



National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice

Earned her Bachelor's Degree in Political Science, Cum Laude and Phi Beta Kappa, from the University of Denver in 1974; her Master's from the

University of Notre Dame in 1975; and her Ph.D. from the Graduate School of International Studies at the University of Denver in 1981. (Note: Rice enrolled at the

University of Denver at the age of 15, graduating at 19 with a Bachelor's Degree in Political Science (Cum Laude). She earned a Master's Degree at the University

of Notre Dame and a Doctorate from the University of Denver's Graduate School of International Studies. Both of her advanced degrees are also in Political

Science.)

She is a Fellow of the AmericanAcademy of Arts and Sciences and has been awarded Honorary Doctorates from Morehouse College in 1991, the University of

Alabama in 1994, and the University of Notre Dame in 1995. At Stanford, she has been a member of the Center for International Security and Arms Control, a

Senior Fellow of the Institute for International Studies, and a Fellow (by courtesy) of the Hoover Institution.

Her books include Germany Unified and Europe Transformed (1995) with Philip Zelikow, The Gorbachev Era (1986) with Alexander Dallin, and Uncertain

Allegiance: The Soviet Union and the Czechoslovak Army (1984). She also has written numerous articles on Soviet and East European foreign and defense

policy, and has addressed audiences in settings ranging from the U.S. Ambassador's Residence in Moscow to the Commonwealth Club to the 1992 and

2000 Republican National Conventions. From 1989 through March 1991, the period of German reunification and the final days of the Soviet Union, she

served in the Bush Administration as Director, and then Senior Director, of Soviet and East European Affairs in the National Security Council, and a Special

Assistant to the President for National Security Affairs. In 1986, while an international affairs fellow of the Council on Foreign Relations, she served as Special

Assistant to the Director of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. In 1997, she served on the Federal Advisory Committee on Gender Integrated Training in the Military. She

was a member of the boards of directors for the Chevron Corporation, the Charles Schwab Corporation, the William and

Flora Hewlett Foundation, the University of Notre Dame, the International Advisory Council of J.P. Morgan and the San Francisco Symphony Board of

Governors. She was a Founding Board member of the Center for a New Generation, an educational support fund for schools in East Palo Alto and East

Menlo Park, California and was Vice President of the Boys and Girls Club of the Peninsula.

In addition, her past board service has encompassed such organizations as Transamerica Corporation, Hewlett Packard, the Carnegie Corporation,

Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, The Rand Corporation, the National Council for Soviet and East European Studies, the Mid-Peninsula Urban

Coalition and KQED, public broadcasting for San Francisco. Born November 14, 1954 in Birmingham, Alabama, she earned her bachelor's degree in political

science, cum laude and Phi Beta Kappa, from the University of Denver in 1974; her Master's from the University of Notre Dame in 1975; and her Ph.D. from the

Graduate School of International Studies at the University of Denver in 1981. She is a Fellow of the American Academy of Arts and Sciences and has been

awarded Honorary Doctorates from Morehouse College in 1991, the University of Alabama 1994, and the University of Notre Dame in 1995. She resides in

Washington, D.C.



So, who are these pompous, outspoken celebrity critics? What is their education? What is their experience in affairs of State

or in National Security? While I will defend to the death their right to express their opinions, I think that if they are going to call into

question the intelligence of our leaders, we should also have all the facts on their education and background:



Barbra Streisand

Completed high school

Career: Singing and acting



Cher

Dropped out of school in 9th grade.

Career: Singing and acting



Martin Sheen

Flunked exam to enter University of Dayton.

Career: Acting



Jessica Lange

Dropped out college mid-freshman year.

Career: Acting



Alec Baldwin

Dropped out of George Washington U. after scandal

Career: Acting



Julia Roberts

Completed high school

Career: Acting



Sean Penn

Completed High school

Career: Acting



Susan Sarandon

Degree in Drama from Catholic University of America in Washington,

D.C.

Career: Acting



Ed Asner

Completed High school

Career: Acting



George Clooney

Dropped out of University of Kentucky

Career: Acting



Michael Moore

Dropped out first year University of Michigan.

Career: Movie Director



Sarah Jessica Parker

Completed High School

Career: Acting



Jennifer Anniston

Completed High School

Career: Acting



Mike Farrell

Completed High school

Career: Acting



Janeane Garofalo

Dropped out of College.

Career: Stand up comedienne



Larry Hagman

Attended Bard College for one year.

Career: Acting



While comparing the education and experience of these two groups, we should also remember that President Bush and his cabinet are briefed daily, even

hourly, on the War on Terror and threats to our security. They are privy to information gathered around the world concerning the Middle East, the threats to

America, the intentions of terrorists and terrorist-supporting governments.

They are in constant communication with the CIA, the FBI, Interpol, NATO, The United Nations, our own military, and that of our allies around the world.

We cannot simply believe that we have full knowledge of the threats because we watch CNN!!

We cannot believe that we are in any way as informed as our leaders. These celebrities have no intelligence-gathering agents, no

fact-finding groups, no insight into the minds of those who would destroy our country.

They only have a deep-seated hatred for all things Republican. By nature, and no one knows quite why, the Hollywood elitists detest Conservative views and

anything that supports or uplifts the United States of America. The silence was deafening from

the Left when Bill Clinton bombed a pharmaceutical factory outside of Khartoum, or when he attacked the Bosnian Serbs in 1995 and 1999. He bombed

Serbia itself to get Slobodan Milosevic out of Kosovo, and not a single peace rally was held. When our Rangers were ambushed in Somalia and 18 young

American lives were lost,not a peep was heard from Hollywood. Yet now, after our nation has been attacked on its own soil, after 3,000 Americans were killed by

freedom-hating terrorists while going about their routine lives, they want to hold rallies against the war. Why the change? Because an honest, God-fearing

Republican sits in the White House.

Another irony is that in 1987, when Ronald Reagan was in office, the Hollywood group aligned themselves with disarmament groups like SANE, FREEZE

and PEACE ACTION, urging our own government to disarm and freeze the manufacturing of any further nuclear weapons, in order to promote world peace. It is

curious that now, even after we have heard all the evidence that Saddam Hussein has chemical, biological and is very close to obtaining nuclear weapons, their is

no cry from this group for HIM to disarm. They believe we should leave him alone in his quest for these weapons of mass destruction, even though it is certain

that these deadly weapons will eventually be used against us in our own cities.

So why the hype out of Hollywood? Could these celebrities believe that since they draw such astronomical salaries, they are entitled to also determine

the course of our Nation? That they can make viable decisions concerning war and peace? Did Michael Moore have the backing of the Nation when he

recently thanked France, on our behalf, for being a "good enough friend to tell us we were wrong"? I know for certain he was not speaking for me. Does Sean Penn

fancy himself a diplomat, in going to Iraq when we are just weeks away from war? Does he believe that his high school diploma gives him the knowledge (and

the right) to go to a country that is controlled by a maniacal dictator, and speak on behalf of the American people? Or is it the fact that he pulls in

more money per year than the average American worker will see in a lifetime? Does his bank account give him clout?

The ultimate irony is that many of these celebrities have made a shambles of their own lives, with drug abuse, alcoholism, numerous marriages and

divorces, scrapes with the law, publicized temper tantrums, etc. How dare they pretend to know what is best for an entire nation! What is even more bizarre is

how many people in this country will listen and accept their views, simply because they liked them in a certain movie, or have fond memories of an old

television sitcom! It is time for us, as citizens of the United States, to educate ourselves about the world around us. If future generations are going to enjoy the

freedoms that our forefathers bequeathed us, if they are ever to know peace in their own country and their world, to live without fear of terrorism striking

in their own cities, we must assure that this nation remains strong. We must make certain that those who would destroy us are made aware of the severe

consequences that will befall them.

Yes, it is a wonderful dream to sit down with dictators and terrorists and join hands, singing Cumbaya and talking of world peace. But it is not

real. We did not stop Adolf Hitler from taking over the entire continent of Europe by simply talking to him. We sent our best and brightest, with the strength and

determination that this Country is known for, and defeated the Nazi regime.

President John F. Kennedy did not stop the Soviet ships from unloading their nuclear missiles in Cuba in 1962 with mere words. He stopped them with

action, and threat of immediate war if the ships did not turn around. We did not end the Cold War with conferences. It ended with the strong belief of President

Ronald Reagan... PEACE through STRENGTH.




 

Perrone Ford (Perroneford)
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Post Number: 65
Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Wednesday, April 02, 2003 - 09:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Bingo! Nuff said. This of course is not to presuppose that the President's staff is necessarily *better* because of their educations and experience, but I certainly feel more comfortable with them leading the country than the second group.

-P
 

Rob Davison (Nosivad_bor)
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Post Number: 202
Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Wednesday, April 02, 2003 - 09:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

my issue is i dont feel comfortable with either group.

 

Erik Olson (Jon)
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Post Number: 363
Registered: 02-2002
Posted on Wednesday, April 02, 2003 - 11:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Adrian,

Why don't you give Mr. Fleischer a ring - I'm certain he could put you to work on his team.

Sorry for the long post!

Cheers,

e
 

Rans (Rans)
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Username: Rans

Post Number: 449
Registered: 08-2002
Posted on Wednesday, April 02, 2003 - 01:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Adrian,
I'm a little baffled by the date and age quotes about Conde Rice. This is just quibbling on my part, but my wife went to St Marys Academy in Colorado with Conde Rice (HS) and she graduated there in the class of 1971 with my wife's sister. That means she was 17 when she graduated there. My wife and I were chatting about the dates in your article and the best we can come up with as an answer is that she was taking college level courses at the U. of Denver during her Junior and Senior year at St. Mary's. Still says alot about the person I happen to think is the brain-trust in the Bush Cabinet.
 

Stacey R Abend (Srafj40)
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Post Number: 44
Registered: 03-2003
Posted on Wednesday, April 02, 2003 - 05:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Rans,

I read somewhere that she completed high school at an accelerated pace.

Stacey

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