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Raymond Brown (Sbbceo)
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Post Number: 8
Registered: 03-2003
Posted on Thursday, April 03, 2003 - 07:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Guys,

I replaced the brake light bulbs, replaced the fuses and put a new bulb in the glove box and my brake lights still don't work. Does anyone know what the problem could be? The bulb holders look great so it's not that. Has anyone seen anything like this before because I'm stuck. I've replaced everything I could possibly replace for those lights to work.

Any help and or advice or if someone is living in or near Montgomery County Maryland that would be willing to help me that would be great.

Thanks,
Raymond
97 Disco
 

John Moore (Jmoore)
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Post Number: 547
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Thursday, April 03, 2003 - 07:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Could it be the pedal switch? I'm just guessing. It should be located underneath the dash, high up on the pedal.
 

Kevin Howell (Kevinhowell)
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Post Number: 50
Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Thursday, April 03, 2003 - 10:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

is it "all" of your brakelights? and do the taillights and turn signals work?
 

ed petrush (Exp)
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Post Number: 53
Registered: 08-2002
Posted on Thursday, April 03, 2003 - 11:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

agree with kevin.. need some more info.. do your parking lights work? do the directions work? what about the hazards? when you replaced the bulbs & fuses did you test the circuits to see if there was power to them?

If all of these work and just not you brake lights, my guess is the pedal switch is not aligned with the pedal anymore or it is simply bad..



 

Raymond Brown (Sbbceo)
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Post Number: 9
Registered: 03-2003
Posted on Thursday, April 03, 2003 - 02:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

My hazards and turn signals all work. My brake lights on the left and right side are out and the one light on the right above the brake light(Red light) which is the light the comes on when you turn your lights on completely. The middle brake light works that sits up high on the door but not the left and right side brake lights. Where exactly is the pedal switch and is it easy to repair and or replace because I've tried everything that I thought would work at this point. Is there one fuse that controls both left and right side brake lights in the 97 Disco?

Any help would be very much appreciated. I'm tired of people telling me my lights are out.
 

John Moore (Jmoore)
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Post Number: 551
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Thursday, April 03, 2003 - 02:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

If the center brake light is working, it's not the switch. It is turned on and off by the same switch that does the rt/lft lamps. If you want to check anyway. Remove the lower dash panel and follow the brake pedal up until you find the switch.

My guess at this point is a bad ground somewhere. Is the center light glowing brighter that normal? Is it dim?

I'm not sure, but I would imagine you would have a fuse for both sides.

Here's an idea. Have you done anything recently, with the trailer light harness? Are trailer lights installed? Does the Trailer light idiot light blink when you turn on your blinkers or brakes?
 

ed petrush (Exp)
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Post Number: 54
Registered: 08-2002
Posted on Thursday, April 03, 2003 - 04:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I agree with John M... if at least one brake light works, then that means the switch is working.. I would guess that it is a ground issue.. you need a test light to check to see if power is supplied to the light sockets when you press the brake.(make sure the gound is good - test to make sure the testlight works with a light that is on.

its amazing how many bad grounds there can be on these trucks... while you are at it, I would also test/replace all the chasis grounds (search in th archives, there are tons of hints on how to do this)
 

John Moore (Jmoore)
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Post Number: 554
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Thursday, April 03, 2003 - 04:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

If it is a ground, then it's not the ground on the lamps because they would be common with the other bulbs and they are working.

Maybe somewhere along the circuit the hot lead to the lamps is grounding, that's why I asked if the center brake lamp was burning brighter/dimmer.
 

Dean Brown (Deanbrown3d)
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Post Number: 599
Registered: 02-2002
Posted on Thursday, April 03, 2003 - 05:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

First check that you have a voltage on the socket when you press the brake - do you have a multimeter. Then check the resistance from the ground of the socket to the vehicle's frame or negative battery terminal. Also you didn't buy single-filament bulbs by mistake?
 

Raymond Brown (Sbbceo)
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Post Number: 10
Registered: 03-2003
Posted on Friday, April 04, 2003 - 09:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Guys thanks for the advice. The middle light works fine and it's brighter than normal. I checked the pedal switch and it appears to be fine. Someone told me to check the bulb in the glove box and if that is out then my brake lights would be out. I don't know how true that is, but my glove box light is out and I replaced the bulb and it's still not coming on. Can anyone point me to a Land Rover mechanic in my area (Rockville, MD). The dealer wants too much money just to look at my lights.
 

John Moore (Jmoore)
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Post Number: 556
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Friday, April 04, 2003 - 11:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Try

http://www.bushducks.com/landrover/landrover.htm

They have a huge list of shops.

Good Luck, sorry we couldn't help you figure it out.

-John
 

Erik Geagan (Geagan)
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Post Number: 90
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Friday, April 04, 2003 - 04:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I have the same problem... And Raymond, would love to know what you came up with
 

Raymond Brown (Sbbceo)
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Post Number: 11
Registered: 03-2003
Posted on Monday, April 07, 2003 - 11:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Man I'm really frustrated and sick of these lights. I've done everything you can think of except taking it to the dealer and having them tell me it's going to be $350 to fix the problem which would be $5 for parts and $345 for labor. Thanks for all your help guys. I really do appreciate it and if anyone knows how I can get my remote reprogrammed without having to go to the dealer that would be great.
Thanks
Raymond
97 Disco
 

Raymond Brown (Sbbceo)
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Post Number: 12
Registered: 03-2003
Posted on Friday, April 11, 2003 - 06:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Alright guys this is the latest and greatest. I completely removed the light assembly and rechecked all the bulbs with a tester and tested the bulb holders themselves as well. I unhooked the connector that powers the rear lights and tested that as well and to my finding I'm not getting any power for that one connector that controls the brake lights. There's power coming to and from all the other rear lights except the brake lights meaning left and right because the middle is working. So I discovered that is a bad connection from the front of the Disco to the rear but how and where do I trace that wire? Is it under the Disco or inside under the carpet or what? Does anyone have a wiring diagram they could email me or fax me today?

Thanks
Raymond
97 Disco
 

Raymond Brown (Sbbceo)
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Post Number: 27
Registered: 03-2003
Posted on Wednesday, April 23, 2003 - 07:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Alright guys this is the latest and greatest. I completely removed the light assembly and rechecked all the bulbs with a tester and tested the bulb holders themselves as well. I unhooked the connector that powers the rear lights and tested that as well and to my finding I'm not getting any power for that one connector that controls the brake lights. There's power coming to and from all the other rear lights except the brake lights meaning left and right because the middle is working. So I discovered that is a bad connection from the front of the Disco to the rear but how and where do I trace that wire? Is it under the Disco or inside under the carpet or what? Does anyone have a wiring diagram they could email me or fax me today?

Thanks
Raymond
97 Disco
 

jim randall (Rover47)
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Post Number: 20
Registered: 01-2003
Posted on Wednesday, April 23, 2003 - 11:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I thought you said that the brake light on the door was ok. If so the power is getting to the rear of the car. Try taking the trim off of the left rear window. Look up towards the rear, you shoud find a green header junction there. Check for power in the green purple wire. From that point the power goes to the center stop lamp. There is a splice in that wire that goes to the right stop lamp.The left lamp gets a straight run from the header junction to it.
 

Bill Howell (Billh13)
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Post Number: 17
Registered: 03-2003
Posted on Wednesday, April 23, 2003 - 02:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I may be compleatly off base with this but here goes. I work as a police officer and my crusier's brake lights went out one night. All but the middle. The switch went bad. I guess in the Ford, it has two circuts running through the same switch so if one goes out the other still works. Replaced the switch worked again. Another thought, if it didn't work half way you could not get car out of park. If it works with Ford maybe LR too
 

Raymond Brown (Sbbceo)
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Post Number: 28
Registered: 03-2003
Posted on Wednesday, April 23, 2003 - 03:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Our next move is to check the switch, but since it does get out of park then I'm just not sure about that

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