| Author | Message | ||
     Brian Friend (Brianfriend) Senior Member Username: Brianfriend Post Number: 612 Registered: 09-2002 |
I'm picking up my 35" tires tomarrow and I should have them mounted and ballance by wed. this comming week. Right now I am on 2" ome but I am ready to do some cutting. I have read the article on 35" with 2" and I am fine with the cutting stuff and flares, any thing else I need to know? who is running this type of set up? btw 97 disco, 2" ome | ||
| Ron Brown (Ron) Member Username: Ron Post Number: 209 Registered: 04-2001 |
Brian jackson had some BFGs on his DI. What 35s did you get and what wheels do you have? MTRs in that size run really small. The set I measured did not even top 34in. If it were me I would run Rovertym rear arms with all the spacers in, this mover the axle back almost an inch, making 34s fit like 32s as far as the rear door is concerned. I would cut and weld the front radius arms to do the same. Then run 2.5-3in springs and hack as needed. Marty put some flares on his truck and it came out looking really clean, but I don't see why you could not make it happen without the flares. Its a compromise no matter what. Ron | ||
| Brian Friend (Brianfriend) Senior Member Username: Brianfriend Post Number: 614 Registered: 09-2002 |
The flares are the lease of my consern. I just want to make sure that the tires clear. cutting is no problem, I can not make the truck look worse. I just want to make sure that I am not missing anything obvious as far as drive line issues are concerned. Of course I know I should gear down but that will be a bit down the road. Trailing arms are a concern....I am running Rock Ware trailing arms and I think that they are 1/2 in. shorter than stock. The idea behind that I think is to run bigger tires without having to change the drive lines. Mostly I am looking to hear from people that are now running that size tire. I want to hear the trials and tribulations. | ||
| RVR OVR (Tom) Senior Member Username: Tom Post Number: 744 Registered: 07-2001 |
With those trailing arms you are screwed without hacking the rear door up. Check the tech article on the RTE A-Arm install that I wrote. That was on a 3" lift with RTE rear arms and I am only running 33's. Of course they are 33x12.5 swampers. They measure 33.7" tall, so they are "large" 33's. What kind of 35's did you get? If they are skinny, you may get by. If you are in a real pinch, put on some real tall bump stops until you figure out what do to. My 33's even rubbed the doors on the street over bumps like railroad tracks at speed. Contrary to what Ron says, I would cut the front fenders vs. the radius arms. Much simpler as it sounds as if you are not big into the perfect stock looking body. By the way, you don't need the flares if you hack up the truck. Folks use filler on the doors for an OK look. I didn't want to venture that far. Tom | ||
| Chris Marcel (Gumarcel) Member Username: Gumarcel Post Number: 202 Registered: 11-2002 |
Tom you sell the rover yet? | ||
| RVR OVR (Tom) Senior Member Username: Tom Post Number: 747 Registered: 07-2001 |
Nope, haven't really officially "put it up". I have one vehicle out of comission being fixed. When that is done, it will go on sale. Tom | ||
| Chris von Czoernig (Chrisvonc) Senior Member Username: Chrisvonc Post Number: 1062 Registered: 07-2002 |
Are 35" even going to fit in there with just 2" lift? I run 3" lift and 285/75's were rubbing the sliders like hell just driving down the street. Chris von C. | ||
| Ron Brown (Ron) Member Username: Ron Post Number: 217 Registered: 04-2001 |
Chris anything fits with sawzall.  Ron | ||
| Wayne Smith (Wayne) New Member Username: Wayne Post Number: 4 Registered: 02-2003 |
I'm running 33 at the moment but have some experience with running 35's and suggest a couple of setup ideas. I would go with 2.5 inches of body lift, 19 inch springs and the obvious cutting for flairs. I run a larger offset on the wheels; if using 7 inch rims use a 3 inch offset, and if using 8 inch rims a 4 inch offset. The width of the tyres will effect all this as well. The normal weak points are all there such as diffs, cv's, axles and steering arms, but these can all be fixed with a few more $$$ | ||
| Brian Friend (Brianfriend) Senior Member Username: Brianfriend Post Number: 619 Registered: 09-2002 |
I picked those 35" up yesterday. Those are very intimidating tires. There is no doubt that I will need to do LOTS of cutting. 35x12.50x15. I am kinda wondering if I am going to be able to get the thing out of first gear. Can you say gears? I'm thinking 4.75 maybe? | ||
| Carter Simcoe (Carter) Senior Member Username: Carter Post Number: 2188 Registered: 04-2002 |
what are you geared to right now? | ||
| Brian Friend (Brianfriend) Senior Member Username: Brianfriend Post Number: 620 Registered: 09-2002 |
stock | ||
| RVR OVR (Tom) Senior Member Username: Tom Post Number: 748 Registered: 07-2001 |
what type of tire are they? what is the overall diamter? | ||
| Brian Friend (Brianfriend) Senior Member Username: Brianfriend Post Number: 621 Registered: 09-2002 |
Goodyear bfg mud and snow. they are used and I have not measured the diam. I probably should do that before I start hacking away just to make sure that I cut enough. | ||
| Blue (Bluegill) Senior Member Username: Bluegill Post Number: 2197 Registered: 02-2002 |
why start thinking through the issues now? just break out the meat cleaver and start hacking | ||
| Peter Matusov (Pmatusov) Senior Member Username: Pmatusov Post Number: 636 Registered: 09-2002 |
oh Brian... i wish you good luck Blue, hacking is not all it takes... peter | ||
| Gil Stevens (Gil) Member Username: Gil Post Number: 243 Registered: 02-2002 |
"Goodyear bfg mud and snow" huh??? if they are 12.5s they may fit after all is said and done, but I cant imagine they would have any room to move. this is pretty tight..  | ||
| Blue (Bluegill) Senior Member Username: Bluegill Post Number: 2200 Registered: 02-2002 |
even if you have a blunt axe instead of meat cleaver? | ||
| Peter Matusov (Pmatusov) Senior Member Username: Pmatusov Post Number: 639 Registered: 09-2002 |
Gil, isn't that a perfect photo for "one inch of wheel travel?" Blue, blunt axe will do. I often use a 4-lb sledge for this very purpose (on steel sheetmetal, not aluminum). peter | ||
| Blue (Bluegill) Senior Member Username: Bluegill Post Number: 2202 Registered: 02-2002 |
seriously, be careful Brian if you fit those and start motoring down the street. Rubber will eat sheet metal, and vice versa. | ||
| Dave_lucas (Dave_lucas) Senior Member Username: Dave_lucas Post Number: 361 Registered: 02-2002 |
Does that green disco really have 35" tires? They look much larger than that   If they are, we are going to have to cut a bunch off that poor disco.  BTW, does anyone have a link to a bigger pic of that green disco, and know what size lift it has or if they have offset rims? | ||
| Thomas Abernethy (Toadisco311) New Member Username: Toadisco311 Post Number: 5 Registered: 02-2003 |
I am pretty sure it is located under Brian Jackson's name | ||
| Dave_lucas (Dave_lucas) Senior Member Username: Dave_lucas Post Number: 362 Registered: 02-2002 |
Thanks | ||
| Brian Dickens (Bri) Senior Member Username: Bri Post Number: 310 Registered: 08-2002 |
Thomas you are right. There are even some pictures of some degree of stuffage. For a look at someone with 37s look at the northwestparts website. Also Kent Polluck was running some pretty big meats on his coilover rig, also in the gallery. I think I have seen Tom Pearson running some meats as well as. The east coast rover site has pictures of the discotech project with different tires ranging from 33-37. | ||
| Roger Fastring (Fastring) New Member Username: Fastring Post Number: 14 Registered: 02-2003 |
I am still dialing in my 95D1 with 33x10.5x15 BFG ATs. Started with 2.5RTE springs, then added 2" of spacers (so 4.5") and cur the front fenders. Also cut the back straight back parallel that black strip, but no door trimming, looks like i will be ok for uptravel and not hitting. I am awaiting those East Coast rover fenders, they are on backorder but really its not needed, just cut the front and you are fine, maybe a little off the front. Will post pics once its done. I am running 4.75s. | ||
| Carter Simcoe (Carter) Senior Member Username: Carter Post Number: 2197 Registered: 04-2002 |
Brian is trying to fit 35s though not 33s | ||
| Brian Friend (Brianfriend) Senior Member Username: Brianfriend Post Number: 624 Registered: 09-2002 |
In looking at Brian Jackson's pictures it doesn't look like he had to do as much cutting as I thought. looks like he trimmed the rear a bit but it doesn't look like he attacked the front a whole bunch. Brian.....want to chime in? Roger, how are the 4.75 gears? Highway and trail use? | ||
| Carter Simcoe (Carter) Senior Member Username: Carter Post Number: 2199 Registered: 04-2002 |
does he even own that thing still?? it was up for sale a few months ago. | ||
| Brian Friend (Brianfriend) Senior Member Username: Brianfriend Post Number: 625 Registered: 09-2002 |
Forgot about that....probably sold by now. | ||
| Chris von Czoernig (Chrisvonc) Senior Member Username: Chrisvonc Post Number: 1064 Registered: 07-2002 |
He kept it the truck and has been running 35's last I spoke to him. The pictures in his gallery were his first fitting of them before the cutting. He cut the hell out his disco to get them to work though. Here is a link to the most current pictures I know of from when he was selling it back in Nov/Dec (?). http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4291270439&signin_cookie_sent=1 | ||
| Nadim Samara (Discodino) New Member Username: Discodino Post Number: 30 Registered: 02-2003 |
CUT CUT CUT...If you HAVe to be legal (tires covered), then slap on the flares, if not, don't! | ||
| Nadim Samara (Discodino) New Member Username: Discodino Post Number: 31 Registered: 02-2003 |
CUT CUT CUT...If you HAVE to be legal (tires covered), then slap on the flares, if not, don't! | ||
| Kyle Van Tassel (Kyle) Moderator Username: Kyle Post Number: 198 Registered: 11-2002 |
Or not.... http://www.discoweb.org/wildwest/F1420008.jpg Kyle "Blow me" | ||
| paul londrigan (Neversummer) Member Username: Neversummer Post Number: 115 Registered: 11-2002 |
Kyle, how much are you lifted to fit those XZL's? I here they fit alot easier then other large tires ie. 35's and 33's because they are alot more narrow. | ||
| Brian Friend (Brianfriend) Senior Member Username: Brianfriend Post Number: 642 Registered: 09-2002 |
So.....is anyone running 35x12.50 tires? | ||
| Jason Smith (Smithers) New Member Username: Smithers Post Number: 11 Registered: 02-2003 |
I'm running 37" MTR's. But it took 9+ inches of lift, and a bunch of trimming to get it to be fully usable. | ||
| Brian Friend (Brianfriend) Senior Member Username: Brianfriend Post Number: 643 Registered: 09-2002 |
9 inch. Yikes. Hope I don't have to go anywhere near that for the 35". What all did you have to do? | ||
| James (Jimmyg) Member Username: Jimmyg Post Number: 221 Registered: 10-2002 |
Brian, You can run 3inch springs with 2inch spacers with a 2 inch body lift and fit 35 with a small amount of trimming. You could also use 5 inch springs and the 2inch body lift. You could also just get 4 (maybe 3) inches of lift and flares. Many options. | ||
| Kyle Van Tassel (Kyle) Moderator Username: Kyle Post Number: 205 Registered: 11-2002 |
Or not... as I said..... Whats the height on that 35 ? Kyle "Blow me" | ||
| Brian Friend (Brianfriend) Senior Member Username: Brianfriend Post Number: 644 Registered: 09-2002 |
kyle, I like the "or not" option you have but I don't have a clue how you did it. I will measure the tires tonight and get back to you with the height. Of course logic tells me that they might be somewhere around 35" but I guess it depends on if that is male measurements or female. | ||
| Eric N (Grnrvr) Senior Member Username: Grnrvr Post Number: 1305 Registered: 02-2002 |
Get really skinny tires on stock rims and you can fit 36s with little to no trimming with a normal amount of lift. However, your turning radius is really going to suffer and off camber sittuations are going to be really fun since you are tall and tippy (smaller contact patch, high COG, and with no extra width to help with stability). My personal preference would be for a good amount of lift, a good amount of cutting, and a nice JEEP like wide tire with nice wide offset rims to add an extra bit of width to my trucks stance. I for one would not want 36 inch tall, 9 inch wide tires on my 4 inch lifted Disco on the stock spaced rims and then start going down trails that are 30 degrees or more off camber. I don't mind a tippy feeling but, the thought of rolling over easier comes to mind. It works for Kyle but, it wound't work for me. I wouldn't mind taking his truck out for a spin to see just how his turning was affected and to see how tippy (or not) it really is. Since the only way you will ever really know is to just do it and see what happens. | ||
| Kyle Van Tassel (Kyle) Moderator Username: Kyle Post Number: 209 Registered: 11-2002 |
The truck with XZLs has a better turning raduis then the truck with 265s , both on standard offset rims... And what trails you going down Eric ? FOr sure its better to stay low and wide but weigh that against chopping the shit out of your truck. My truck now has 160K on it and there isnt much of the states it hasnt seen on and off road. Now take that into consideration when looking at the pics of it and think about what little damage (Cutting or otherwise) that it really has... And I still dont have a single trail breakage of a driveline part or a single tire issue.. I think thats a pretty good average and alot of it is due to staying skinny.. Kyle "Blow me" | ||
| James (Jimmyg) Member Username: Jimmyg Post Number: 223 Registered: 10-2002 |
Kyle, Is there really much difference between a 285/75 and a 255/85 tire when it comes to additional stress on the truck? Eric, With your 265/75 tires and 4 inch lift, have you thought about going to either of the above sizes? Just trying to plan next tire size myself. Thanks | ||
| Eric N (Grnrvr) Senior Member Username: Grnrvr Post Number: 1307 Registered: 02-2002 |
James, I have thought about going to 34-35s and I'm still thinking about it. Just don't have the money to waste on it right now. However, I don't think that I'll stay at just 4 inches of lift. Kyle, I think that is great that you haven't beat up your truck, however, when the time comes I'm just going to chop away. I'm not to worried about the cutting since I have no plans on selling it to anyone nor do I expect it to stay perfect for very long (hell it isn't now). It will also no longer be a daily driver when I go to start making serious changes to it. I have being wheeling all over the place. Pretty much where ever I can go I've been going. I haven't made it out west yet though but, I'm working on it. | ||
| Larry Grubbs (Larryg) Member Username: Larryg Post Number: 205 Registered: 03-2002 |
Brian, Trust me on this one. Don't go with too much of a lift and cut, cut, cut. You will need the low COG here in CO or you will flop. Granted I run a RRC, but I only have about 3" of lift and lots of trimming. My truck is very stable. Larry | ||
| Kyle Van Tassel (Kyle) Moderator Username: Kyle Post Number: 213 Registered: 11-2002 |
And here we find ourselves right back in the same BS debate...lol Eric , "out West" is not the only place there is a trail and I certainly dont hold that opinion. However. I havnt come to any trails here or there that I wouldnt run in a heartbeat. I have run them here and I have run them there. I have run em with 32s and I have run em with 34s. Larry here seems to think there is a CO rule but it lays more in your hands then it does in the tire on the truck. Having the extra clearance is nice under the diffs but just not nice enough that you need to go whacking on your truck to get it. Sure , its the easy way out but why try to avoid trees and rocks and shit on the trails if the majiority of the damage has already been done to the thing with the saw? Why buy sliders ? Just cut the bottoms off the doors.. Now just because you simply want the easy way out of "Chopping away" , are you sure its really good advise for people that might want to keep their truck and have it as nice as they can possibly keep it ? Is there some contest amongst you boys where someone gets prize if they are the first to completely bash and whack the piss out of their ride ? Do you get more points at MAR for that ? Dirt road safari ? Or is it that dreaded "Cool" thing ? I had a guy tell me once that "Cool sells".... Kyle "Blow me" | ||
| Rob Davison (Nosivad_bor) Senior Member Username: Nosivad_bor Post Number: 223 Registered: 02-2003 |
Goddamn, listen to kyle run at the mouth... i dont think he has a stright panel left on his beater truck and he is here lecturing others.. lol rd | ||
| Dave_lucas (Dave_lucas) Senior Member Username: Dave_lucas Post Number: 364 Registered: 02-2002 |
Well, This is Brian’s disco we are talking about, not some pristine stocker, I am not sure if any of you have seen recent pictures of it, but lets just say that it should be declared a total loss, I do not condone beating a rig in this manner, and think it is crazy to do so, believe me Brian has received an ear full about it from me  BUT, with that said at this point I do not think that this disco will ever see the road as a daily driver again and will be considered a trail only truck for Brian, there is not a straight body panel on this thing, the sills are shot, I will not even be able to mount sliders to them so I am going to the frame and the rear quarters are toast. At this point I think that it would actually improve the looks of the disco to cut off some of the useless sheet metal that is all bent and contorted but that is just my opinion. Here are some pics I snapped to give you an idea of its current condition http://home.attbi.com/~dave_lucas/wsb/html/view.cgi-photos.html-.html As you can see it is in bad shape! Brian now understands that if you play you pay, and wait till he gets my bill  Hopefully the new armor that will be installed shortly will help, but only time will tell. I will post some pics when it is done | ||
| Chris von Czoernig (Chrisvonc) Senior Member Username: Chrisvonc Post Number: 1067 Registered: 07-2002 |
Good god.. was that all from Independance? Chris von C. | ||
| Ho Chung (Thediscoho) Moderator Username: Thediscoho Post Number: 120 Registered: 02-2002 |
poor disco. i'd rip every body panel out. and make a bird cage type thing around it. LOL ---------- Ho Chung | ||
| Eric N (Grnrvr) Senior Member Username: Grnrvr Post Number: 1308 Registered: 02-2002 |
MAR, it always goes back to MAR. That's pretty funny. I only used out west as an example since I haven't been there yet. I have been pretty much every else on this coast though except for Tellico and I'm trying to work out how I can go there. I thought that this site was to gather different opinions? If you want your truck to stay looking nice then keep it stock and in the garage (for anyone that is reading this) if you want to beat it up and have it run like crap then lift it and take it out on the trails. It's pretty much that simple. You will slide into trees when it's wet, you will drop off rocks only to find that they are eating sheet metal, you will have to run tight trails that will eat up your sheet metal. Or you can be a "fair weather wheeler" and only wheel when it's nice and sunny and the trails are nice and dry. Then you won't slip and slide around as much. My only real point here is that if you want to gain ground clearence you are going to have to get taller. Why increase your chances of rolling over by using skinny tires when you can get wider tires and off set rims to help lower your center of gravity back down? I think it would be better to tell someone that if they get these tall ass skinny tires and 3-7 inches of lift then they are running a greater risk of rolling over then with the same size wider tire and offset rims with a little hacking. I would rather be in control of the cutting then every thing in my trucks path doing it for me as I roll sideways down a hill. Either way you are going to have to upgrade your drive line and it will be only a matter of time until you break some thing. Time will depend on your wheeling style careful things will last longer, careless and you'll be breaking things more frequently. It's always a compromise when you start doing mods to your truck. It's all a matter of what you are willing to compromise and what you aren't. I think that you would like the County Line Trail "AKA State Line trail/Tuscarora Trail" it's off of RT 55 (Lat 39 5 6.8 Long -78 30 39.9). You should go check it out next time you guys decide to head out to GWNF. This trail is not as far of a drive either. However, it's mostly off camber and not driven much so it may also be a little over grown. Even has some rocks at the end. | ||
| Dave_lucas (Dave_lucas) Senior Member Username: Dave_lucas Post Number: 365 Registered: 02-2002 |
A big yellow bird Cage | ||
| Brian Friend (Brianfriend) Senior Member Username: Brianfriend Post Number: 646 Registered: 09-2002 |
Hey....I think that truck looks bewtiful. Independance was part of it, and Iron chest and Blanca, and a cumulation of all the other trails I ran last year. | ||
| John Henley (Johnhenley) New Member Username: Johnhenley Post Number: 39 Registered: 12-2002 |
"Brian, Trust me on this one. Don't go with too much of a lift and cut, cut, cut. You will need the low COG here in CO or you will flop. Granted I run a RRC, but I only have about 3" of lift and lots of trimming. My truck is very stable. Larry" BWAHAHAHA If your truck is only 3", what's mine, a 1/4" Yes, The more travel I get, the more I cut. I can't do more lift.... tall slinky's don't work. j | ||
| Chris von Czoernig (Chrisvonc) Senior Member Username: Chrisvonc Post Number: 1068 Registered: 07-2002 |
Personally, I think bird caging it is not a bad idea if the truck is so bad that it can never see the road again and you don't plan on using it as a parts donor for another Disco. I mean if its going to be only a rock/trail truck and one wants to go hog wild in the rocks, go for it. Strip out everything unnecessary, cut 1/2 the roof off and turn it into a pickup, which should help in lowering the center of gravity a bit, and build a full external cage around it and build in your sliders and other protection to the cage if the frame issues are that bad. While this picture may be a bit of overkill on the external cage thing, I thought it shows some good possibilities of caging for the rear.  | ||
| Brian Friend (Brianfriend) Senior Member Username: Brianfriend Post Number: 647 Registered: 09-2002 |
I like that. I am still wondering if anyone is running 35/12.50? | ||
| Larry Grubbs (Larryg) Member Username: Larryg Post Number: 207 Registered: 03-2002 |
Brian, I have a friend who just put 35's on his Disco 1. He just called me last night. He is only running a 3" lift and did the proper cutting. As Kyle would normally say "Just Do It". Besides, given the current shape of your truck what is your hesitation? Are you prepared for the necessary Drivetrain upgrades to support these bigger tires? If not you will constantly be breaking things. Larry | ||
| Sean Hanagan (Seanh) Member Username: Seanh Post Number: 221 Registered: 05-2002 |
Brian, I don't have a Disco nor do I run 35's but I would be more than happy to give you my thoughts on the topic BTW what's up with the crawl comp on the 26th? | ||
| Brian Friend (Brianfriend) Senior Member Username: Brianfriend Post Number: 648 Registered: 09-2002 |
Larry, I don't have any hesitation or adversion to cutting I just want to hear from someone that is actually doing it now to gain from their experince. I am happy to hear that 3" and cutting will do it. i certanly don't want to go much higher. Sean, I don't have any more info on the rock crawl yet. Hopefully I get some more info on Monday. | ||
| zane pukajlo (Zane) New Member Username: Zane Post Number: 10 Registered: 03-2003 |
Brian, Discotech was running a 2 inch lift with cutting. 36's fit with ease, eventhough they went with a 33. Had to do with COG and the bigger meats hitting the inner panel. Check them out for ideas. | ||
| Nadim Samara (Discodino) New Member Username: Discodino Post Number: 34 Registered: 02-2003 |
Exocages look good, but are not suitable for a 5 door Disco. A cage has to have diagonals, which an exocage on a 5 door Disco would be impossible of having, unless you're planning on going through the pannels to have diagonals on the inside. The WHOLE idea of a cage is YOUR protection, so put it inside, make seat mounts so you and tha cage go together, and either tie it to the frame with bushings (costly and tiresome), or make sure that it is an 8 point minimum point lock down with large plates. As for the tires: CUT CUT CUT! | ||
| Brian Friend (Brianfriend) Senior Member Username: Brianfriend Post Number: 649 Registered: 09-2002 |
Ok....I have decided.....1 more inch and cut the crap out of it. I will figure everything else out frome there. | ||
| Larry Grubbs (Larryg) Member Username: Larryg Post Number: 208 Registered: 03-2002 |
Brian, Both myself and my buddy are running 35/12.50's. There aren't too many other options for this diameter tire. John, The front and rear are both supposedly 3" lift springs from Rovertym. Larry | ||
| Brian Friend (Brianfriend) Senior Member Username: Brianfriend Post Number: 650 Registered: 09-2002 |
I have one more snag...after I do this I will not be able to park in the garage, what to do then? | ||
| Dave_lucas (Dave_lucas) Senior Member Username: Dave_lucas Post Number: 366 Registered: 02-2002 |
Guess you should just Cut Cut Cut the garage till the disco fits. Or I could store the rack for you on my disco | ||
| Brian Friend (Brianfriend) Senior Member Username: Brianfriend Post Number: 651 Registered: 09-2002 |
Moble rack storage...now that is a concept. | ||
| Neil Flanagan (Electriceel) Member Username: Electriceel Post Number: 78 Registered: 02-2002 |
"after I do this I will not be able to park in the garage, what to do then?" Lift the header and install 8' garage doors. My Disco fits with 3" to spare with a Wilderness rack, 3.5" lift, and 32's. IT NEVER ENDS | ||
| Mark & Bev Preston (Markp) Member Username: Markp Post Number: 195 Registered: 02-2002 |
Brian, Two suggestions - since you have already just about removed the body, just fit the 35 tires and finish the custom bodywork after further 'testing'. As for the garage - Find some land, build a garage with 9' doors. You might need that extra clearance in the future :-) - Mark | ||
| John Henley (Johnhenley) New Member Username: Johnhenley Post Number: 40 Registered: 12-2002 |
Larry, I was referring to the actual measurements dude. You and I both know that your higher than 3". Did you mount the bumper yet? j | ||
| Kyle Van Tassel (Kyle) Moderator Username: Kyle Post Number: 217 Registered: 11-2002 |
Jesus H Christ , just cut the piss out of that poor bastard and put it out of its misery. I had no idea that Disco was that bad off. Rob , shuddup. Eric , well , lets talk when that thing has a couple of hundred thousand miles on it. Look at the trend , the fat tire boys are not around very long. They just come and go after running a few trails here and there all bashed and hacked to shit in a years time and then sold or picked over and thats that. Look over the posts here and the people you see and tell me the ones that have been here from the start that still have the same truck doing the same shit. Christ there are brand new trucks here that are already shot to shit and have virtually done nothing. Its like a tool man , if it aint gonna last I have no use for it. If its gonna let me down , I have no use for it. The more jobs it can get done for me the more I like it. Remember , "anywhere , any time"..... And exactly what are you talking about with "Fair weather wheeler" ? I seem to recall a group of us in the woods on an off camber hillside in mud up to our asses in the rain in Canada and another time in Colorado in snow that completely covered the truck up to the rack. Are YOU now telling ME about conditions and getting it done ? As your truck decays its range gets shorter. As you get older you get tired of what you have to run local . Its inevitable that it just falls by the way side.. You seem to have this mentality that I dislike so much and that is "Its gonna get bashed why fight it" half of the fun for me is trying to avoid that bashing. Lets face it , the trails aint that damn hard if you just dont give a shit. Kyle "Blow me" | ||
| Brian Friend (Brianfriend) Senior Member Username: Brianfriend Post Number: 652 Registered: 09-2002 |
"Jesus H Christ , just cut the piss out of that poor bastard and put it out of its misery. I had no idea that Disco was that bad off." You are going to hurt it's feelings. It's a little bit ugly but beauty is only skin deep. It is what is inside that counts. You're right....I'm not to worried about cutting. My mane concern is that after I cut it all up and put these tires on and aditional 1" lift, I want it to perform better not worse off road. The thing is only a trail rig. It gets driven to the trails and back then sits till the next weekend and we go through the drill again. It is just a toy. On the other hand I would like it to look a little bit better than it does now so we are working on a few things and in a couple of weeks it will be newly transformed. | ||
| Brian Friend (Brianfriend) Senior Member Username: Brianfriend Post Number: 653 Registered: 09-2002 |
btw...most of that stuff will buff out. | ||
| Kyle Van Tassel (Kyle) Moderator Username: Kyle Post Number: 218 Registered: 11-2002 |
Well since we are on the road to whacking then you may as well do it right. If you cut just the sheetmetal you still havnt really done anything. It might LOOK better but its up travel will still be limited by the tire hitting the upper spring perch and the wheel housing. If you want the truck to truley work well and remain low you will need to put some tubs in. Most people just buy some gay ass bump stops to save them some work but that pretty much fucks up the whole idea of keeping it low. The sheetmetal you can see if really only a small part of the battle. Kyle "Blow me" | ||
| Brian Friend (Brianfriend) Senior Member Username: Brianfriend Post Number: 654 Registered: 09-2002 |
That is kind of what I was thinking too after looking under there, but so far you are the first to mention it. This is the kind of info I am going after. | ||
| Kyle Van Tassel (Kyle) Moderator Username: Kyle Post Number: 219 Registered: 11-2002 |
Well , I would start by removing all the sheet metal and getting the rims and tires on that you want to run. Then stuff them and see whats getting in the way. Remove as needed and then build around the hacking you have done. Once you have free movement in that configuration start adding the sheetmetal back while cutting it to fit at the same time. Coil overs would be your friend on this project as you could just remove the upper spring perches and get them out of the way.. Kyle "Blow me" | ||
| Eric N (Grnrvr) Senior Member Username: Grnrvr Post Number: 1309 Registered: 02-2002 |
Ya, fair weather wheelers. I happen to know a few of them. If you want to take that comment personally then feel free however, it wasn't directed at you just a general comment. I could continue to ramble on but, since it really has nothing to do with fitting 35 tires on a Disco I won't and save the folks having to read another long post that really doesn't mean shit. Also, if your going to take the time and effort to run coil overs then I would also ditch the weak stock axles and housings for something stronger like a dana 60 rear/dana 50 front, some dana 44s, portals, or some thing along those lines. | ||
| Brian Friend (Brianfriend) Senior Member Username: Brianfriend Post Number: 655 Registered: 09-2002 |
The term "coil over" and "dana 60" just about gave me a heart attack. Perhaps i have opened a whole new can of worms here. I know what coil overs are, but I have no idea how they work, mount or other very important things. This is a trail rig but it will not be towed to the trail. I still need to drive it to where I am going so it needs to remain somewhat road worthy. | ||
| Ron Brown (Ron) Member Username: Ron Post Number: 242 Registered: 04-2001 |
You will still have issues with the rockware arms, sell or trade for rovertym if at all possible. If not see if you can get a spacer in there to lengthen them. As far as I can see your cvs are going to last about 10minutes with that ARB and those tires. You need some beef in there. Ron | ||
| James (Jimmyg) Member Username: Jimmyg Post Number: 224 Registered: 10-2002 |
I hate to say this, but I will agree with Kyle now that I think about it. My truck has 180,000 miles and I've wheeled all over CO/Utah/VA with skinny tires. I put 265/75 (not that wide) and two weeks later I blew a differential. Could be situational or anything. I don't think Discos can handle 35/12.5 without having to replace everything in a year or two. Good luck. | ||
| Brian Friend (Brianfriend) Senior Member Username: Brianfriend Post Number: 657 Registered: 09-2002 |
I've already had serious issues with the cv's. I am working on that problem already. Even with the 265/75 I break stuff all the time. I have put GBR hd in the rear but havn't found a great solution to the cv thing yet. | ||
| Chris Urquieta (Curquieta) New Member Username: Curquieta Post Number: 15 Registered: 12-2002 |
Talk to Jordan at Rover Club Houseo in Durham, NC. www.roverclubhouse.com He's got a DI on 35's (maybe 37 or 39s) now. | ||
| Brian Friend (Brianfriend) Senior Member Username: Brianfriend Post Number: 663 Registered: 09-2002 |
Chris, I am Forbiden from veiwing that websight. | ||
| Art Vigil (Colorover) Member Username: Colorover Post Number: 98 Registered: 02-2003 |
Works for me. Maybe your browser? | ||
| Brian Friend (Brianfriend) Senior Member Username: Brianfriend Post Number: 665 Registered: 09-2002 |
Well, I got in that time but couldn't get past the home page. Strange. |
