| Author | Message | ||
     Greg Davis (Gregdavis) Senior Member Username: Gregdavis Post Number: 792 Registered: 08-2002 |
Well, I picked up my wheels and tires Friday and threw them on for an intital run. The tires are the Swamper TSL bias-ply tire. Size is 9x34. I went with these over the LTB's because these are a narrower tire. First impression is they are HORRIBLE on the street. But then again, I was expecting that since these are a "no compromise" tire. Plus, these will be for trail use only, as I'll keep my Yoko's for the street. I love the "Tall-N-Skinny" look of these, and can't wait to try them out on the trails. I used Equal in them (5 oz each), but I'm still getting a terrible wobble. I've decided (after playing musical wheels all weekend) that this is being caused by the steel wheels (from Atlantic British) not centering properly on the hubs. I'm going to try and get some centering rings machined to see if that solves the problem. Anyway, here are a few photos.   And to show you just how skinny these really are;  Also forgot to mention that even though the Yoko's are listed as 33" tall, and these are listed as 33.8", I gained exactly 7/8" clearance (10" w/ Yoko's, and 10 7/8" w/ Swampers) under my diffs. I assume this is because the radials bulge more, giving up some clearance. | ||
| Carter Simcoe (Carter) Senior Member Username: Carter Post Number: 2190 Registered: 04-2002 |
Looking good. Have you regeared yet? | ||
| Greg Davis (Gregdavis) Senior Member Username: Gregdavis Post Number: 793 Registered: 08-2002 |
Nope, but I'm saving my pennies.  Plans are to do gears and axles at the same time. | ||
| Eric N (Grnrvr) Senior Member Username: Grnrvr Post Number: 1302 Registered: 02-2002 |
I would take the truck some where so you can put it sideways and see what it is going to do with those skinny tires. Better to find out when you are expecting it then when you aren't. | ||
| Eric N (Grnrvr) Senior Member Username: Grnrvr Post Number: 1303 Registered: 02-2002 |
Oh and I almost forgot. Nice dent.. Where'd you get it? | ||
| Greg Davis (Gregdavis) Senior Member Username: Gregdavis Post Number: 794 Registered: 08-2002 |
Good point on the side-hill test. The dent came this winter in the NC mountains. I was still building my bumper and went on a trail run without it. As luck would have it, I slid into a tree that trip, and creased my quarter. I haven't spent any time on it, but I think most of it will pull out. After that happened, I added the corner bars. Won't keep everything off the corners, but it will sure help. | ||
| Perrone Ford (Perroneford) Member Username: Perroneford Post Number: 80 Registered: 02-2003 |
Interesting that you chose these over the LTB (which I'm sure you know I run). When I looked at the differences, I didn't think the slight additional width of the LTBs was much to worry about. The ride of those tires is only marginally different than the radials I replaced. I thought that they would bother me enough to go to a street radial for everyday, but that has not been the case. What kind of off-road terrain do you usually see? The LTB's seem to work VERY well in the mud and sand I normally encounter here in FL. | ||
| Greg Davis (Gregdavis) Senior Member Username: Gregdavis Post Number: 795 Registered: 08-2002 |
Well, I bought these for the times that I know it will be really muddy and/or rocky. Otherwise, I'll run the Yoko's. Mine are VERY squirrely on lane changes or sudden braking. They are at the max of 45 psi. Are yours like that? | ||
| Perrone Ford (Perroneford) Member Username: Perroneford Post Number: 81 Registered: 02-2003 |
Mine ride like the radials they replaced, and are not squirrely under any road conditions. I've done highway driving, city driving, panic stops, etc. I am VERY pleased with my tires and will buy them again unless I go to 35" or 36" tires. -P | ||
| Greg Davis (Gregdavis) Senior Member Username: Gregdavis Post Number: 796 Registered: 08-2002 |
Hmmm. I wonder if it's because yours are 8 ply whereas mine are 6 ply? All I know is these definitely take some getting used to. I guess I'm getting soft in my old age. | ||
| Blake Luse (Muddyrover) Senior Member Username: Muddyrover Post Number: 795 Registered: 02-2002 |
lookin good | ||
| Greg (Gparrish) Senior Member Username: Gparrish Post Number: 1180 Registered: 04-2002 |
"I guess I'm getting soft in my old age." Hey Davis, I hear they have pills for that now...... | ||
| RJ Clayton (Tozovr) Senior Member Username: Tozovr Post Number: 340 Registered: 09-2002 |
Perrone, any problems with the LTB's chunking on the street? The LTB's are a great buy but tend to run small (like BFG, Yoko and GY...) We had a set that just chunked like CRAZY on short on road stints. Sick tires though! I like the Bias Greg! Looks GREAT! | ||
| TPH (Snowman) Senior Member Username: Snowman Post Number: 367 Registered: 12-2002 |
They really look awesome Greg! What do your neighbors think of your trucks? S- | ||
| Perrone Ford (Perroneford) Member Username: Perroneford Post Number: 82 Registered: 02-2003 |
RJ, Mine have about 10k on them and I've not chunked at all. Surprising since I bought them in August and I live in FL. They saw highway and street duty on a number of 100+ degreed days. -P | ||
| Greg Davis (Gregdavis) Senior Member Username: Gregdavis Post Number: 798 Registered: 08-2002 |
Thanks for all the compliments guys. Now if I could just get the "wobble" problem solved. Uh, Greg, that's NOT what I was referring to. I'm not THAT old yet. Snowman, they all think I've lost my mind. But they decided that two years ago when I first got it and started cutting the front bumper a month into it. They just don't get it! Of course, neither does my wife. | ||
| RVR OVR (Tom) Senior Member Username: Tom Post Number: 751 Registered: 07-2001 |
Greg, I think you have them overinflated. When I ran the skinny boys (32x9.5's), I put them around 36-38 in rear 33-34 in the front. You are driving on a very small contact patch on the road now with those things filled up that much. The "three stage lug" puts you on the inner lugs at full inflation. You are on bicycle tires! I don't think the height and the fact that they are Swampers is your issue. With my 33x12.5's (33.7" tall) my ride is very solid and firm on the road w/out being squirrely. However, the skinniness may be hard to overcome. Expirment with different pressures to get something that feels more stable. Plus, the tires will "break in" some and flex a bit more to grab the road better. You are going to notice a lot more sidewall flex than you are used to with those tires being so skinny and only 6 ply. Tom | ||
| Greg Davis (Gregdavis) Senior Member Username: Gregdavis Post Number: 799 Registered: 08-2002 |
Thanks Tom. I think I'm going to throw them on again this weekend and play around with the pressures. I appreciate the pointers. | ||
| michael burt (Mikeyb) Member Username: Mikeyb Post Number: 190 Registered: 03-2002 |
good advice tom... greg, let us know how it works out for you. i just mounted some trxus mt's (265 75 16). i kow that is not a radical size, but i am getting a little vibe at 45mph. not too bad, but 45 is my usual speed 90% of the time, so it is kind of annoying. mine will be trail tires only, but you still gotta get to the trail on the road, so i would like to have 'em work a little better. thanks, mike | ||
| Greg Davis (Gregdavis) Senior Member Username: Gregdavis Post Number: 801 Registered: 08-2002 |
Mike, are those on your alloy wheels, or are you using some steel wheels? Also, is it a DI or DII? | ||
| michael burt (Mikeyb) Member Username: Mikeyb Post Number: 191 Registered: 03-2002 |
hey greg... i bought a second set of alloys from a guy going to 18's...pulled his tires and mounted the truxus tires...and that is a DII with stock springs and your 1" spacers. mike | ||
| Greg Davis (Gregdavis) Senior Member Username: Gregdavis Post Number: 803 Registered: 08-2002 |
Mike, start swapping your spare for the others one at a time. See if you can isolate which tire/wheel is giving you the vibes. Then, if you can get the right tire/wheel, take it to your tire shop and have them spin the tire 180 degrees on the wheel. That may take care of it. | ||
| michael burt (Mikeyb) Member Username: Mikeyb Post Number: 193 Registered: 03-2002 |
hey greg... great advice...thanks! i do figure it is one tire, so that will hopefully find it. i have a "no questions asked" road hazzard policy, so if they can't get it balanced or fixed...it may have an accident. oooops! mike |
