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Ynik Bells (Ynikbells)
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Post Number: 4
Registered: 03-2003
Posted on Monday, April 07, 2003 - 01:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Thinking of fitting TrueTrac on both rear and front diff. Application, extreme sand dunes driving. Anyone has got it for this application and environment????
 

Leslie N. Bright (Leslie)
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Username: Leslie

Post Number: 1986
Registered: 02-2002
Posted on Monday, April 07, 2003 - 02:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Why not a TrueTrac in the front and a Detroit in the rear?


-L
 

Daniel Covaciu (Danielcovaciu)
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Post Number: 88
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Monday, April 07, 2003 - 02:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I was actually thinking of doing front and rear truetrac's also. The reason I dont want a detroit is because I drive to the mountain to go snowboarding 6 months out of the year so snow performance is very important to me. An arb would be nice but its alot more expensive and harder on axles I've heard. My wheeling is not extreame but I have found myself wishing I had at least a rear locker many a time. I'm sure a truetrac in the back is still an improvment over the open diff. What do you think?
Dan
 

Mark Devereux (Groupw)
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Post Number: 38
Registered: 12-2002
Posted on Monday, April 07, 2003 - 04:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I went to TT's front and real last summer. So far, I'm VERY happy. I've had them in deep snow (30+ inches of snow here in Denver a couple of weeks ago which gave me absolutely no problem), deep sand, rock, mud, you name it. Its true that they aren't lockers and they aren't gonna get you up big rock faces and ledges, but as long as you can keep the wheels on the ground, the traction is great.
 

Daniel Covaciu (Danielcovaciu)
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Post Number: 90
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Monday, April 07, 2003 - 05:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Mark, the situation I have found myself in several times is going up hills with a slipery surface. Either really dry loose dirt or when it gets wet, shallow mud. When trying to go up hills like this I get one tire on each axle, usually on opposite sides spinning. All four tires are on the ground but only two are spinning. I think that if all four tires were spinning I could claw myself up these hills. What is your experience in such situations?
Thanks for the input,
Dan
 

John Friederich (Jfriedlvcmcom)
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Post Number: 15
Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Monday, April 07, 2003 - 07:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Just got my front TT (this is on a D2, mind you) fitted, and had it out for a weekend of offroad & camping. Rear is still open. Here is my initial impression...

On pavement, it is worth the money just for better behavior after the OME HD lift. Wife didn't like driving it after the loss of caster - she said it felt like it she was always driving with a gusty side wind, even when it was calm. I thought this was a good description of loss of caster. She says it now feels like 'stock', before the lift.

On the level sandy washboard common to the East Mojave area (we camped at Midhills) it wanders less than stock, felt like I could have driven 75 without a problem.

On a steep sandy / rocky area where my ETC would normally stay on constantly, it flickered only once (this was with CDL). Part of it had a pretty good side slope, and I had no feeling of being pulled down the slope if I kept constant power.

I can see a full locker in the rear some day, but the TT up front seems to do everything I had hoped...

-John F
 

Alan Yim (Alan)
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Username: Alan

Post Number: 417
Registered: 09-2002
Posted on Monday, April 07, 2003 - 07:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

A fellow I know has a D90 that has a TT on the front. He also has bought a Detroit for the rear but hasn't installed it yet but from his experience, he's considering putting a TT on the back as well. His truck is strictly for hunting so his requirements are different but he said that so far, he's been extremely happy with his TT and says he hasn't really seen a need for the Detroit. But I guess it really comes down to what your application/environment will be. Up here, our terrain is more mud, dirt, snow, cut-lines and stuff like that. Very little sand dunes or rock terrain.

Just my $.02
 

Mark Devereux (Groupw)
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Post Number: 39
Registered: 12-2002
Posted on Monday, April 07, 2003 - 09:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Dan,
I think you will like them on the loose climbs. To make climbing interesting, Colorado has lots of pea gravel, generally loose rocks, and "baby heads" that roll around under your tires. You will notice a definate traction improvement.
 

Bruce Potier (Bruce_flrc)
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Post Number: 17
Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Monday, April 07, 2003 - 09:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Dan,
I have them front and rear, almost going on 2 years. I live in Florida, so lot's of sand, clay, mud and the TTs work very nice. I did not go to a Detroit Locker for the rear due to upgrade cost of HD axles, although some run Locker without HD axles. They perform awesome when I encounter steep inclines and I can climb-up and through anything without having to run hard and hope for enough momentum, so less stress on my truck. I maintain that this was my best upgrade because of the obvious traction improvement. BTW, this is my daily driver and road manners are great.
As Ho says, just do it! You won't be sorry.

Bruce
 

Keith Kreutzer (Revor)
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Username: Revor

Post Number: 182
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Monday, April 07, 2003 - 10:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I was initially concerned about the TT up front and Detroit rear combination (snow ice issues) but after several of the more recent storms here in the Denver area i was EXTREMLY pleased... More like amazed... I have a F350 with LSDs front and rear, this thing is a tractor in the snow...Nothing stops it... But the Disco with it's combination (not locked in the center) was remarkably stable... Gave the truck a run for it's $$$$ I've lived here all my life (hence driven here too)
Just do it!!!!you won't regret it...
 

Paul Kleinkramer (Slipinkramer)
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Post Number: 15
Registered: 03-2003
Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2003 - 01:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Yes,

Dual TTs work really nice but be warned. When you are cross axled and sitting still, you will spin tires like your diffs are open. Brake modulation might help but I have found it helps only after the Disco gets moving a bit.

Sitting still and cross-axled is the weakness with TTs. BELIEVE me.

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