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Matt Williams (Ltmatt007)
New Member Username: Ltmatt007
Post Number: 19 Registered: 02-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, April 08, 2003 - 07:53 pm: |
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I am trying to do my 60K service and it is time for transmission service. 1. Do I need to change filter? 2. Do I have to remove the pan completely to drain fluid and if I do should I change the gasket? I am trying to get around having to remove a cross member. Any other tips on this job would be very helpfull, as well as any recommendations on fluid brands. I have a 99 DII. Thank you, Matt |
   
Dan Armbruster (Dan_armbruster)
New Member Username: Dan_armbruster
Post Number: 36 Registered: 04-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, April 08, 2003 - 07:56 pm: |
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I have a 98' disco with 35k and when I had my oil changed, they told me I needed a trans fluid change soon due to off roading. |
   
Shawn McKenzie (Shawn)
Member Username: Shawn
Post Number: 60 Registered: 10-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, April 08, 2003 - 08:58 pm: |
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Definitely change the filter |
   
Tbow (Tbow)
Member Username: Tbow
Post Number: 109 Registered: 12-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, April 08, 2003 - 10:52 pm: |
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If this is your first, then your only about 40K miles overdue for a trans fluid change. I would definately replace the filter. My recommendation for all automatics is if you 4 wheel or tow a lot, then change the fluid every 12-15K miles otherwise you should change it every 20K miles. Chances are your fluid is brown and burnt. If not, consider yourself lucky. You'll have to unbolt and move the crossmember forward to clear the oil pan to get the filter out. Because you'll only be replacing about 1/2 the fluid (the other half is still in the converter), I would recommend another oil change (no filter) after a few mile trip. This will dilute the old oil with more clean oil. |
   
Matt Williams (Ltmatt007)
New Member Username: Ltmatt007
Post Number: 21 Registered: 02-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2003 - 12:23 am: |
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This is change 2, first was done by dealer and included the filter at 30K. I am now at 56K, I was not planning on doing the filter this time. Is it that big of a deal? --Matt |
   
Greg (Gparrish)
Senior Member Username: Gparrish
Post Number: 1190 Registered: 04-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2003 - 07:45 am: |
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Matt, my D2 book indicates a dealer filter change at 30k miles, but it doesn't show the filter change again after that, it only shows fluid changes. Check your manual. |
   
Greg (Gparrish)
Senior Member Username: Gparrish
Post Number: 1191 Registered: 04-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2003 - 09:08 am: |
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Matt, also check out www.roverconnection.com. They have a kit with trans filter, gasket, o-rings and replacement washer. May be worth taking a look as they have a picture. Their price is $62.00 but you may find the same kit for less elsewhere.
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Paul T. Schram (Paulschram)
Senior Member Username: Paulschram
Post Number: 1261 Registered: 02-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2003 - 09:08 am: |
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I don't know if the DII is as intensive as a DI for changing the transmission filter, but it can take up to five hours to do this process, with help and knowledge of how to do it, and loosened bolts due to a recent swap that had been conducted on the truck. It can require dropping the exhaust, sway bars and cross member (at least on a DI) in order to access the pan for removal. I am working on a tool for spreading the frame rails (used a hi-lift last weekend) to speed the project up. Good luck, make sure you are in the right state of mind and have plenty of beer for when you're done, I was exhausted! Peace, Paul |
   
Greg (Gparrish)
Senior Member Username: Gparrish
Post Number: 1192 Registered: 04-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2003 - 09:11 am: |
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Here ya go. I would think you should replace these O-rings, gaskets and washers to safeguard against problems. |
   
Matt Williams (Ltmatt007)
New Member Username: Ltmatt007
Post Number: 22 Registered: 02-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2003 - 02:10 pm: |
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O.K. I have been told that I need to remove a cross member, but all the stuff listed by the DI owner was never brought up. Do I need to do all that on a DII? |
   
Paul T. Schram (Paulschram)
Senior Member Username: Paulschram
Post Number: 1265 Registered: 02-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2003 - 02:30 pm: |
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Matt: Again, I'm not certain of the DII, but on the DI, RRC and Defenders, you're not gonna have much luck pulling the crossmember out without dropping the exhaust from the manifolds to the muffler. In addition to gaskets, I would suggest you have new hardware for the muffler flange (3/8 X 2 works fine) and perhaps even for the exhaust manifold studs (the nuts are 8X1.25), although I have had very good luck with Rover nuts coming off. Also, it is very common to find the crossmember under compression and you may need to spread the frame rails, or drive it out with your trusty wacker as Merv would put it. Peace, Paul |