| Author | Message | ||
     Tripp Westbrook (Tripp) Member Username: Tripp Post Number: 116 Registered: 08-2002 |
www.yellowH2.com Completely redic. Even has installed night vision. From reading his site, seems like a lot of daddy's money. Must be nice. T- | ||
| Paul D. Morgan (V22guy) Senior Member Username: V22guy Post Number: 1404 Registered: 02-2002 |
Interesting site. This person is obviously having fun with his H2 and that is great. However, I never knew that "Magnetic Shields" existed for off roading. My favorite pic is of this bad ass H1: http://www.yellowh2.com/Photos/2003_Snow_Run/html/19.html Read the guestbook. There are some hilarious postings in there.... Paul | ||
| Leo (Leo_hallak) New Member Username: Leo_hallak Post Number: 26 Registered: 02-2003 |
God damn he didnt even install the STICKERS himself. No shit someone else paid for it. -leo | ||
| Phillip Perkinson (Rover4x4) Member Username: Rover4x4 Post Number: 116 Registered: 02-2003 |
posuer | ||
| Rans (Rans) Senior Member Username: Rans Post Number: 491 Registered: 08-2002 |
WTF?? This is the tire size he quotes for his GY MTRs: 37-1250R-17/E 129P | ||
| Tripp Westbrook (Tripp) Member Username: Tripp Post Number: 117 Registered: 08-2002 |
Actually I think that's the combination to his high school locker. | ||
| gp (Garrett) Senior Member Username: Garrett Post Number: 1983 Registered: 10-2001 |
yeah those magnetic shields are a little overboard. that's just too damn funny. must have a sunblock holder inside too. what a goober.  | ||
| Greg (Gparrish) Senior Member Username: Gparrish Post Number: 1194 Registered: 04-2002 |
Damn, that bright yellow thing almost looks like a certain moderators truck.......... hehehe I wonder if he has been on the Lifestyle channel also? | ||
| John Moore (Jmoore) Senior Member Username: Jmoore Post Number: 577 Registered: 10-2002 |
Paul, the guestbook is funny! You guys are jealous! If you had a money tree I'm sure you will be doing silly stuff to your disco too. I thought it was funny that on many of his item he did it because it looked "cool" and he wanted a certain utiliatian look. The only thing I really couldn't understand was the traffic director. What does he want to work for the DOT? | ||
| Paul D. Morgan (V22guy) Senior Member Username: V22guy Post Number: 1407 Registered: 02-2002 |
Hey John, That Traffic Director light reminds me of the flashing blue lights those people had a Killington last year. I just didn't get.... | ||
| Jason Bard (Jbard) Member Username: Jbard Post Number: 104 Registered: 10-2002 |
That's it. I'm moving to Fargo to live a lush life by having this candy-ass pay me to intall stickers, lamp guards and wiring....holy shit the wiring! What a fucking tool. And the "scratch guards"??? I would love to see this flamer on the trail. I wonder if he has someone else tape the magnetic shields on, as he mentions they need to be, "which is a hassle" He did however install the shovel himself....or so he wants us to believe he did. Greg, I think he's shooting more for MTV Cribs. | ||
| Leo (Leo_hallak) New Member Username: Leo_hallak Post Number: 27 Registered: 02-2003 |
I am sorry even if I was loaded I dont think I would spend that much on Night Vision. But maybe I might need to drive with my lights off. -leo | ||
| Christopher Dynak (Adtoolco) Member Username: Adtoolco Post Number: 159 Registered: 08-2002 |
I don't know. I like the idea of those shields. It would save on buffing time alone...but then again who buffs their Rover? | ||
| John Paschal (John_p) New Member Username: John_p Post Number: 5 Registered: 02-2003 |
What an ass clown. | ||
| Eric Pena (Evalp) Senior Member Username: Evalp Post Number: 456 Registered: 06-2002 |
Good Lord, that guy is a ... ah fuck it. | ||
| Ross Thoma (Rossthoma) Member Username: Rossthoma Post Number: 175 Registered: 08-2002 |
Forward this to the cops we just found the Fargo and area drug dealer. Dude... Now I wouldn't mind owning Auto trim Design of Fargo though. Sounds like they do good buisness. RT | ||
| Brian Dickens (Bri) Senior Member Username: Bri Post Number: 325 Registered: 08-2002 |
If someone installed all that over the top stuff on a Disco, it'd be cool right? | ||
| Greg (Gparrish) Senior Member Username: Gparrish Post Number: 1195 Registered: 04-2002 |
No, it would still be silly Brian. I looked at all of the pictures and the only people I see in them are a couple of kids. As far as the buffing on the disco though, when you get laid off it seems like a good idea . I washed and waxed mine for the first time since new this weekend. I polished the whole thing with rubbing compound, then put 3 coats of wax on it and it still feels rough to the touch. I guess it is tough to ever smooth the surface out on these things when they get pretty scratched up. gp | ||
| M. K. Watson (Lrover94) Senior Member Username: Lrover94 Post Number: 734 Registered: 02-2002 |
i wish i had cash his sugar daddy spent on that surburban! mike w | ||
| Aaron Richardet (Draaronr) Member Username: Draaronr Post Number: 65 Registered: 09-2002 |
damn why not just by a real hummer. | ||
| Christopher Dynak (Adtoolco) Member Username: Adtoolco Post Number: 162 Registered: 08-2002 |
Greg, that wax will help with future pinstripping. I feel guilty whenever I wheel without a recent waxing. It would've reduced allot of the cool "character" my Rover has. | ||
| Blake Luse (Muddyrover) Senior Member Username: Muddyrover Post Number: 802 Registered: 02-2002 |
i'd throw some of those shields on mine. Tree limbs and my paint love each other. | ||
| David Gage (Davidg) Member Username: Davidg Post Number: 135 Registered: 02-2002 |
Hahahahaha MAGNETIC scrath sheilds on a Disco, that cracks me up! | ||
| Brian Dickens (Bri) Senior Member Username: Bri Post Number: 326 Registered: 08-2002 |
Oh come on now admit it you're just jealous. ;-) Personally I like the website and the vehicle, would I do it myself OR spend that kind of cash? Not on your life. There are "kids" on discoweb as well. I agree with AAron though, with all that cash might as well have a real vehicle. | ||
| B-Mc (Mcartist) Member Username: Mcartist Post Number: 88 Registered: 05-2002 |
I think its one of the worst sites I’ve seen... I checked it out in 2 browsers and I have to scroll all the way to the right to read the crap he wrote. If your going to spend all that money on night version spend another $200 to have that joy stick mounted... if your going to take it in the woods take it in the mud, don’t just stop before it and then run on the other side of the mud and take a picture... and if your going to put $10.000 worth of crap on a "truck" and then show it off, give a $100 to some high school student w/ some graphic know how to design a real website. not to quote a bad movie... but JaRule said it best in "The Fast and the Furious" he said "Its not how you stand next to your car... its how you race it" my 2 cents Brad | ||
| Glenn Guinto (Glenn) Senior Member Username: Glenn Post Number: 542 Registered: 02-2002 |
guys, guys, guys... give the guy a break! At least he's going for the utilitarian look and taking his H2 on the trails. Hey, he could've put 26" rims and rubberband tires in there. He could've swap out the rear seat for a custom sub woofer enclosure....and the list goes on. Glenn | ||
| Blue (Bluegill) Senior Member Username: Bluegill Post Number: 2220 Registered: 02-2002 |
I'd respect him more if he street-blinged that big yellow piece of cheese. | ||
| Blue (Bluegill) Senior Member Username: Bluegill Post Number: 2221 Registered: 02-2002 |
and he actually used the phrase "on safari" I thought it was illegal to seriously say something that gay | ||
| Glenn Guinto (Glenn) Senior Member Username: Glenn Post Number: 543 Registered: 02-2002 |
"street-blinged"... LOL I think you should put a copyright on the phrase Blue! Glenn | ||
| Peter Matusov (Pmatusov) Senior Member Username: Pmatusov Post Number: 653 Registered: 09-2002 |
Glenn, i think he got past 26" rims stage. how many times can you see "look cool" on his h2 page? peter | ||
| B-Mc (Mcartist) Member Username: Mcartist Post Number: 89 Registered: 05-2002 |
I cant get past the fact that he doesnt have any real reason for the NightVision "This is the same system used in police helicopters" then spotting deer and other small animals... what a joke his website is like a car reck that I dont want to look at but cant help myself Brad | ||
| Glenn Guinto (Glenn) Senior Member Username: Glenn Post Number: 544 Registered: 02-2002 |
One thing that scared me is that, this guy is actually hoping to have to rescue someone off a ditch and play "hero". Glenn | ||
| B-Mc (Mcartist) Member Username: Mcartist Post Number: 90 Registered: 05-2002 |
one of two things will happen if he comes to dig you out... 1. you wont see him coming because he will be useing that all so useful NightVision "This is the same system used in police helicopters". or 2. he will have all his lights including that traffic thingy on and you can miss him. either way he will scare the shit out of you... but on a good note while he is digging you out you can play X-BOX in the truck while Elvis humps your leg Brad Im not sure why this guy pisses me off... maybe its because Im broke | ||
| Carter Simcoe (Carter) Senior Member Username: Carter Post Number: 2210 Registered: 04-2002 |
I'm suprised the damn thing doesn't have a scanner so he can try and beat the REAL police, fire department, and EMS to the scene. | ||
| Greg (Gparrish) Senior Member Username: Gparrish Post Number: 1196 Registered: 04-2002 |
So who posted the link to this thread and the nice comment in the guest book? Seems like whoever did it should have at least had the balls to put their name in......... Greg | ||
| Blue (Bluegill) Senior Member Username: Bluegill Post Number: 2222 Registered: 02-2002 |
Yeah, calling the guy a stupid sack of shit ain't cool. | ||
| Carter Simcoe (Carter) Senior Member Username: Carter Post Number: 2211 Registered: 04-2002 |
Hey FWIW that was my roommate..... Sorry, he will be reprimanded I didn't tell him to do it or anything, so if you are reading this yellowH2 guy the 'sack of shit' part isn't coming from a member of this community.... | ||
| Rans (Rans) Senior Member Username: Rans Post Number: 495 Registered: 08-2002 |
I can't help but think about the the conflict of night vision and all those lights.....can't use both at the same time, so when to use one and not the other? Kinda scary ain't it? | ||
| Brian Dickens (Bri) Senior Member Username: Bri Post Number: 331 Registered: 08-2002 |
You know the word BLING is out when 40 something white males on Discoweb are using it. LOL. | ||
| Jack Quinlan (Jsq) Member Username: Jsq Post Number: 215 Registered: 10-2002 |
I posted the link to this thread. | ||
| Paul T. Schram (Paulschram) Senior Member Username: Paulschram Post Number: 1274 Registered: 02-2002 |
Bling, Bling Paul (40 year-old (straight) white male) Schram | ||
| Brian Dickens (Bri) Senior Member Username: Bri Post Number: 334 Registered: 08-2002 |
I stole that line from my wife. When I used the word BLING, she cracked up, then said that! 6 months 'til I can be called 40 something, Brian | ||
| Mike Haun (Redrx7) New Member Username: Redrx7 Post Number: 9 Registered: 04-2003 |
... While you have your personal opinion, is it necessary to attack the guy (i.e. a few posts in here and the joker in the guest book)? Sure, he went way overboard on the items for his new H2... But that is his right and pride for doing so. Regardless of your right to speak your mind, I find it immature to take it to a personal level and attack him. I think it is neat. Is it practical? NO. But neither is my 800+ rwhp Mazda RX-7. Its a hobby, in which we all share. Respect that, and move on. Mike | ||
| Chris Marcel (Gumarcel) Member Username: Gumarcel Post Number: 211 Registered: 11-2002 |
i think a 800+ rwhp RX-7 is definatly practical!!!!! | ||
| Mike Haun (Redrx7) New Member Username: Redrx7 Post Number: 10 Registered: 04-2003 |
Chris- I have conveyed that same thought to my wife many times! Yet while any attempts to persuade the wife to allow for more items/parts just gets me the cold shoulder. It is very unpractical, but fun! At 18psi of boost, it made 779.4 rwhp, and 11psi of boost 579.1 rwhp. The RX-7 is my hobby life. I run the www.rx7club.com which is housed to 30k members, etc. I needed another vehicle which I could always tow the RX-7 incase it decided to break and piss me off. I chose the Disco I for many other reasons besides just towing. I was able to pawn the idea we need a towing vehicle to the wife, now just wait until I start equipping the truck with many 4x4 off-road goodies. Who says you can't have two expensive hobbies? :] Mike | ||
| Greg French (Gregfrench) Senior Member Username: Gregfrench Post Number: 338 Registered: 11-2002 |
Why does he need all of that stuff on his "Short Bus" Maybe it helps to pick up the other retards. (No offense to those of you who are retards) | ||
| Mike Haun (Redrx7) New Member Username: Redrx7 Post Number: 12 Registered: 04-2003 |
Quoted by Greg French: "Why does he need all of that stuff on his "Short Bus" Maybe it helps to pick up the other retards. (No offense to those of you who are retards)" It is not a matter of "why". It is a matter of "Because he can". It is just like anything else... - Do you have a larger than 27" TV? - Do you have a receiver, speaker system? - ETC. Not be nit-picky.. but it is just like everything else out there. Keep in mind, I do not disagree with what you are saying, but its | ||
| TPH (Snowman) Senior Member Username: Snowman Post Number: 380 Registered: 12-2002 |
If he hunts with the night vision he should go to jail. Of course he probaly has someone else hunt for him and he just poses for the pics. I do think it's great the dude is spending the money, it's good for the economy. To each his own, he seems to be having fun. Plus the guestbook is really funny. S- | ||
| Christopher Dynak (Adtoolco) Member Username: Adtoolco Post Number: 169 Registered: 08-2002 |
Whats up with the ETC crack? Damn you! Mike Haun and your RX7! I hope you throw a rod! -Chris | ||
| Mike Haun (Redrx7) New Member Username: Redrx7 Post Number: 14 Registered: 04-2003 |
Chris! Hahahahahaha. I wonder how many people got the rod throwing jab with regards to the RX-7! Mike | ||
| Land Rover Certified Used A**hole (Jason) Senior Member Username: Jason Post Number: 455 Registered: 04-2002 |
Quit bitchin' guys...at least he is helping the economy. It's not like Raytheon is rich enough with all of the gov't contracts they land, but I would guess my uncle probably thanked this guy personally for kicking another dime into his retirement... | ||
| Shawn McKenzie (Shawn) Member Username: Shawn Post Number: 64 Registered: 10-2002 |
"I hope your rotor goes out of alignment" doesn't have the same ring to it. | ||
| Kyle Van Tassel (Kyle) Moderator Username: Kyle Post Number: 220 Registered: 11-2002 |
I actually kind of dig all that shit. Well , aside from the little magnetic thingies... Kyle "Blow me" | ||
| Carter Simcoe (Carter) Senior Member Username: Carter Post Number: 2226 Registered: 04-2002 |
Well Kyle, the good news is you can have your very own 'traffic adviser' for the low price of three hundred something dollars!! I'm not joking, click the link by his description of the damn thing... | ||
| David Gage (Davidg) Member Username: Davidg Post Number: 138 Registered: 02-2002 |
Mike, probably more than got the magnetic stickers on a disco joke... | ||
| Greg French (Gregfrench) Senior Member Username: Gregfrench Post Number: 342 Registered: 11-2002 |
Magnetic stickers won't work on the Disco. Aluminum. Maybe if I hang Kevlar mats from my roof rack... Actually, it is a nice looking ride. I applard the guy for trying to jazz it up and make it stick out a little. I know I like having the only Disco in the area like mine. I actually use the off road stuff for going off road, though. Not like this guy. It would be cooler if he wasn't such a poseur | ||
| Christopher Boese (Christopher) New Member Username: Christopher Post Number: 22 Registered: 10-2002 |
Makes me a little embarrassed to drive my own yellow truck. Fact is, though, I *like* tree scratches. If I had this guy's money, I'd have bought an H1. | ||
| Christopher Dynak (Adtoolco) Member Username: Adtoolco Post Number: 170 Registered: 08-2002 |
Heh-heh...I figure quite a few got that one. Lots of Knowledgable folk on Dweb. Aren't the side pannels on discos steel? I thought the roof and hood were aluminium. Now I have to go do the magnet test. Thanks allot. | ||
| Christopher Dynak (Adtoolco) Member Username: Adtoolco Post Number: 171 Registered: 08-2002 |
But Chris, you already have the "utilitarian" look going for you. No need to be embarrased. | ||
| Christopher Boese (Christopher) New Member Username: Christopher Post Number: 23 Registered: 10-2002 |
Yeah - that's the trouble. Should have bought a stock white Disco. BTW, D1 doors were aluminum (Birmabright, actually - aluminum and magnesium alloy.) D2 side panels are a mix of steel and alloy panels. | ||
| Steve Reisman (Barton) New Member Username: Barton Post Number: 12 Registered: 02-2003 |
Guys, Hey there...just dropped by to see what's shaking on the Discoweb...I'd never deny that there is a lot of good experience and knowledge to be found here. I wish I could say it's a classier act then the Jeeper web (where they violently hate everyone but Jeepers)...but I have mixed readings. Half of you, the better half, seem to embrace offroading and the like with respect for anyone who wants to explore the backroads and have some fun pushing those buttons and pulling those extra levers in their rigs. You realize we're all driving 4 rubber donuts and have some clearance and can all share the fun. Great, wonderful and all my respect! That's what we need to help stop the Sierra club from shutting us down. The other half seem like a hateful bunch who gather in mass to hate and despise the newest "threat" on the offroad scene. Such blatant "sour grapes" syndrome and immaturity is just disgusting. Seriously...why channel so much hatred and "dissing" into other brands? You don't see anything like this on the H2 web...seems like you have something to prove. Who cares. The H2 and the Disco aren't so far apart. I'm in Los Angeles....and here's what disco's are all about: it's the wanna-be cheapy alternative to a Range Rover (as in, why don't you buy a REAL Land Rover??). Disco's are 99% driven by yuppies and women who have no interest in ever driving them offroad...it's for show and display of wealth- status...it's definitely a "chick car". When I was about to buy one, I could not find a single person who recommended it...most couldn't wait until their lease ran out. They breakdown frequently and are status-junk wannabe offroaders. The H2 is perhaps similar....lots of people buying themn who don't/won't offroad. Lots of people buying them for status. We get told to buy a REAL Hummer all the time. And you know what: who cares! To each their own! Tell ya what: when you design, fabricate and build your very own vehicle then you can be understood for feverishly defending it...BUT until then, your just backing someone elses horse. Yeah...that H2 is a bit over-the-top, but he's having fun...and all I can say is God Bless America. | ||
| Carter Simcoe (Carter) Senior Member Username: Carter Post Number: 2235 Registered: 04-2002 |
"They breakdown frequently and are status-junk wannabe offroaders" Says the guy who owns the new vehicle known to have wheels fall off and transimisions blow at a few thousand miles that are also equiped with IFS and steering components smaller than some garden tractors. | ||
| Christopher Dynak (Adtoolco) Member Username: Adtoolco Post Number: 174 Registered: 08-2002 |
The reason some jumped on this guy is he went a hair too strong with his "utilitarian" look. I for one really don't care, but I wouldn't wheel with this guy. He would get himself so stuck it would take a bulldozer to get him out. This guy screams look at me! I prefer to look away and laugh. -Chris | ||
| Steve Reisman (Barton) New Member Username: Barton Post Number: 14 Registered: 02-2003 |
Chris - I totally agree with ya! Carter - come on man...ONE vehicle lost its front wheel, but the others stayed on, and 3 out of 4 ain't all that bad! But seriously, of 24,000 vehicles it only happened to 1, and thats because the guy ran it into a concrete pillar. People are used to passenger cars that damage their fenders when you turn them into something...whereas the H2 has very open & exposed front wheels. As for the ••••••'s....mine went out at 6K!! I won't deny anything (not like I personally built the thing!). The ••••••'s were a modified version of the popular and widely used 4L60, some had problems but they've got those few resolved. FYI, there were some t-case issues too! That steering linkage does seem small....yet nobody has had issues with it yet. And IFS, yeah....but it works great and even in stock form still does extremely well. Nobody ever claimed it was God's gift to the 4x4-community. In my opinion, they should have made the front SFA, a shorter wheelbase and a bit more clearance, and maybe CTIS....BUT...the beast does do well as it is. Also IMHO, the ultimate offroad machine is Brianfriends rig! | ||
| Steve Reisman (Barton) New Member Username: Barton Post Number: 15 Registered: 02-2003 |
why can't the word •••••• be posted on this site? It keeps coming up with red-dots. The word I'm typing is •••••••••••. | ||
| Steve Reisman (Barton) New Member Username: Barton Post Number: 16 Registered: 02-2003 |
oh man....it even won't let me space it out. Okay...let's say it rhymes with granny | ||
| Carter Simcoe (Carter) Senior Member Username: Carter Post Number: 2236 Registered: 04-2002 |
Hey, its all good but nothing says "its a chevy" like the transmision going out at 6K. Seriously though, how did they treat you with the whole transmision thing??? I would think that would be super embarasing for them to have to see the thing come back on a flat bed after 6K (even more so than the new trucks and suburbans just because of all the marketing hype). Did they kiss your ass pretty well?? | ||
| Jack Quinlan (Jsq) Member Username: Jsq Post Number: 225 Registered: 10-2002 |
Steve, your wrote: "The H2 and the Disco aren't so far apart. I'm in Los Angeles....and here's what disco's are all about: it's the wanna-be cheapy alternative to a Range Rover (as in, why don't you buy a REAL Land Rover??). Disco's are 99% driven by yuppies and women who have no interest in ever driving them offroad...it's for show and display of wealth- status...it's definitely a "chick car". When I was about to buy one, I could not find a single person who recommended it...most couldn't wait until their lease ran out. They breakdown frequently and are status-junk wannabe offroaders." Look around. The people on this board are not the people you are describing. Even the most mild enthusiast on DWEB takes more interest and enjoys more of their disco then "yuppies and women". You might also notice that there are a number of women on this board who get every bit as much out of their discos as the men. Wish I could say the same for H2 boards. They just don't give off the same impression. I can see why you might be suprised if the segment of the population you described chose to ridicule or poke fun at the H2 in question, but does it really strike you as unusual that a bunch of devoted offroaders with capable vehicles would fail to complement a poorly designed, poorly equipped truck which doesn't even see the dirt? Your generalizations about the disco as a "wannabe range rover" and your decision to purchase an H2 speak volumes about your background and intentions. Look around before you make statements about who may or may not "fabricate and design". It just might suprise you what some of the people here are capable of. There's a lot of home-made equipment here that I've never seen on an H2. As Lewis Black said on the daily show "You could by an H2, or for the same money you could take out a billboard in Times Square that says "Look at me, I'm a dick." you jumped into this hornet's nest. what did you expect? | ||
| Greg French (Gregfrench) Senior Member Username: Gregfrench Post Number: 346 Registered: 11-2002 |
Steve, The reason we bash them as off road vehicles has a lot to do with the marketing and all of the people who fell for it. It was marketed under the "Hummer" name, which, as everyone knows, is the (2nd) best ORV in the world. A Hummer it is not. Built cheap, but priced expensive for those who want to look like they go off road, but either a: Can't afford a Real Hummer or b: Don't like the Hummer because it it too loud or wide or uncomfortable or whatever, but want to look like they are in a hummer. These morons jumped on the band wagon and found out it wasn't what it was marketed as. Yes, it looks cool and attracts attention. It has a lot of room and is comfortable and quiet. Good for on-pavement driving and maybe dirt roads (For the average person. A good driver could take a 2wd civic places that some 4X4 wouldn't touch!). But take it off road and try to treat it like a real Hummer and I think you will be let down. To be honest, I would love to have one. I like the way they look. But I wouldn't be trying to fool myself into thinking it was a Hummer. If you ask on here, how many of us D-webbers really care about noise and all of the creature comforts that are in SUV's these days? Several of us have taken out the carpet to make it easier to hose out. Makes it louder. Mud tires...Makes it louder and worse on the road. I, personally, was upset that I couldn't get one with non-power windows. To me, that was just one more unnecessary thing that could go wrong. I have actually been looking at military surplus hummers. If I were going to get one, that is the one it would be. If you have ever seen one up close, you will know that there is nothing plush about it. Most don't even have padded seats or a roof. You said, "In my opinion, they should have made the front SFA, a shorter wheelbase and a bit more clearance" You discribed a Disco. If you take some cat shit out of the litter box and put it in a pretty box with a fancy bow, then market it as a new perfume, in the end it will still be a piece of shit. Doesn't matter what the label says. | ||
| Kevin Bridges (Craniac) Member Username: Craniac Post Number: 73 Registered: 02-2003 |
Why are there so many H2 tools? As an owner of one this really concerns me. Personaly I think this guy is a member of the Citizens Auxillary Patroll. GET IT?  | ||
| Steve Reisman (Barton) New Member Username: Barton Post Number: 17 Registered: 02-2003 |
Dear Guys, Despite what you may think, I'm not the least bit offended and am quite happy (if not delighted) to discuss or entertain your notions about H2's, LR's and offroading. Lots of good points made....and most importantly...made without the excessive use of vulgar profanity and offensive expressions. For the record, I don't "know-it-all", I don't have vast experience offroading and I'm not a diehard Hummer-lover: I just bought one, that's it. I try not to post long drawn-out replies...most people won't bother reading beyond 2 paragraphs. In the effort to keep it short, we often miss explaining ourselves as thoroughly as we'd like. My mentioning the Disco as a "wannabe Range Rover", etc is NOT my opinion. I'm just saying that you guys and H2 owners pick-up similar flack: lots of yuppies who don't offroad it, lots of people looking for status and another model costing much more that some will say you have a knock-off of. I was just contrasting our parallels. No doubt this forum has a very unique (and elite) class of LR owner in its ranks...absolutely NOT your average disco owner! (just as I and my offroad club are unique H2 owners as well). To answer Carter's question. Service was absolutely outstanding....they took care of the •••••• in just 2 days, detailed the whole vehicle and left a cute gift in the front seat. They picked the vehicle up, dropped off a loaner and did everything far beyond what I could have asked for: I was delighted. Btw...the •••••• just made some noise in 3/4th gear....not a complete crap-out. "The H2 is not a real Hummer". Yeah...we get that a lot. No doubt GM cashed in on a name. The H2 has about as much in common with the H1 as it has with your disco's. Opps...excuse me...we have the same "D-rings" on our bumpers...that's about it! I have a buddy with both an H2 and an H1....too many details to get into. Different vehicles for sure. He also has owned a Range Rover and a Discovery. I won't tell you about his experiences...you don't want to hear it and some of you couldn't handle the truth. I bought the H2 to replace an aging '87 Jeep Cherokee. I often go radio control sailplane flying and find myself ascending steep hills and driving on poor-condition dirt roads to get to slopes to fly from. There were a couple of hills that the Jeep just could not get up. If that Jeep had lockers I would have made it...but the Jeep was getting old. The H2 has been amazing, a true blast to drive. I've never owned a new vehicle before and this has been a real treat. Most people I know have had very few problems with their H2's. I realize it pains you to hear it, but it comes stock with huge tires, substantial clearance (as long as you don't run those stupid sidebars/steps), aggressive approach/departure angles, a great suspension and an awesome 4x4 system complete with rear locker. All this will lots of luxuries. I love it and so do all the other H2 owners. Now here's the thing: a guy who is 80 pounds overweight has no right to tell a guy who is 20 pounds overweight about losing weight. A student who has a "C" avergae has no right to tell a "B" student how to study. Please don't try to tell me that the H2 is some perfumed, fancy-bow piece of shit. While the H2 doesn't have gear-driven hubs, CTIS and amazing clearance...it's still one hell of a formiddable offroad vehicle that can easily kick the ass of any STOCK LR vehicle hands down. Poorly engineered? Poorly designed? Poor quality? Guys...your the kettle calling the pot black: I personally know several disco owners and not a single one of them is the least bit happy with their vehicle...not even close to happy: they personally told me NOT to buy LR. Maybe the H2 is GM and has some issues....but you are way out of your league trying to condemn the quality and design of an H2 as compared to a disco. We just went to one of my favorite slopes to go flying. There is one section that is very steep, has lots of alternating ruts and is basically full of loose material. I put the H2 in 4-low, punched up the rear locker, raised the suspension and clawed and grinded my way up that hill righteously. My buddy Bill unleased his Disco on that same hill and not even half-way up he was having major issues: alternating wheels were spinning, there rear end was dragging on some ruts and there was just no way in hell it was gonna make it...not even close!!!! Now...take a disco, raise it about 2-4", put on bigger tires with an aggressive pattern, throw on at least a rear-locker and NOW you've got something. The last thing I'll say is that when the H2 came out the H1 boys laughed at it....but after driving one...they were substantially impressed. I hear a lot of sour grapes being cried about the H2. You wanna go anywhere..but a Rubicon....but it you want some cargo space and something more family oriented and something that stands out a bit...the H2 is a hot ticket. We sport basically 100% customer satisfaction, the LR brand...well, let's not kid ourselves guys...in just a few hours I'll be playing racqueball with a buddy who can't say enough bad things about his wifes disco. | ||
| Paul Long (Humveewannabe) New Member Username: Humveewannabe Post Number: 21 Registered: 03-2003 |
Greg, Here's one place to watch for military Humvees. Zecon Indistries, 1812 Tobacco Rd, Augusta, Ga 30906. Call 706-793-6730 for more info or email zecon1@zecon.us | ||
| Carter Simcoe (Carter) Senior Member Username: Carter Post Number: 2237 Registered: 04-2002 |
So thats all they do?? Pick it up give you a loaner and finish the work in two days?? My dad had a transmision blow in a half ton chevy pick up at 5K before he got rid of it the thing also went through something like FOUR fuel pumps, but guess what he eventually traded it in for? Yep another chevy pickup. My mom had a 3/4 ton suburban that used to spend more time in the shop than the road, she gets rid of it and the replacement (another 3/4 ton) is soon 'lemon lawed', the replacement for the 'lemon lawed' one is also 'lemon lawed' (horrible problems with the braking system). They got another truck two years ago and guess what it is???? Yep 3/4 CHEVY suburban. All this and my dad traded the half ton truck (that has also had all sorts of proplems) in on a Tahoe....... I just don't understand it. I was asking you because I figured you might be willing to tell me about those free blow-jobs in the waiting area that my dad is embarased to tell me about | ||
| Blue (Blue) New Member Username: Blue Post Number: 5 Registered: 04-2003 |
While the H2 doesn't have gear-driven hubs, CTIS and amazing clearance...it's still one hell of a formiddable offroad vehicle that can easily kick the ass of any STOCK LR vehicle hands down. I do not believe that that is an accurate statement. | ||
| Andy Thoma (Andythoma) Member Username: Andythoma Post Number: 160 Registered: 01-2003 |
I think what people sometimes don't get about DWeb is the whole giving shit to one another. It's all in fun, one of the main reasons I visit this web site. Give shit, take shit, it's all good. But something that some h2 owners seem to forget is to relax. If you buy a h2, you probably are an extrovert. That's okay, but don't expect to not get any shit for it. That yellow h2 is neat, the guy built what he wanted, which is basically what almost everyone here on dweb does. But the traffic director, and the night vision are kind of over top. But hey, to each his own. Another thing about dweb is the whole put up or shut up attitude. The pics on his site aren't showing him put up much, check these out; http://www.discoweb.org/craniac/index.htm he put up. | ||
| Steve Reisman (Barton) New Member Username: Barton Post Number: 18 Registered: 02-2003 |
I guess your right....on the H2 forum everyone is very considerate and kind....so please excuse the unusual approach. This is what I personally know: most my contractor buddies and thier wives have been very pleased with GM products and have had little or few problems. My H2 definitely blows my old Jeep Cherokee away, it has some significant 4x4 capability and is far from being a useless POS that many posters here would have me believe. I will still contend that there is a steep hill by my home with deep alternating ruts and loose soil that absolutely demands huge traction tires AND a rear locker...that a stock H2 will grunt it up and a stock Disco or RR won't make it up (add tires and a rear locker and your there)....but stock per stock...the H2 is a barrel of fun. Anyways....who cares: it's all about getting out and having fun. I'd take a stock VW baja bug on a trail over a day in the office anytime! The real winner is the guy who gets out and has a big smile on his face. Also...I was wrong about Carter...he's more then alright...he exceptionally cool. Do you guys know anyone in the L.A. area that may want to join us for our April 26th Lake Arrowhead run? | ||
| Kevin Bridges (Craniac) Member Username: Craniac Post Number: 74 Registered: 02-2003 |
Steve, I recently went out with some dwebers to truckhaven and we had a blast. My stock H2 impressed the heck out of me. The one place I felt the disco had the advantage (suprisingly enough) was the off camber and alternating ruts combined with the steep ,loose sand. Mike and some others who were stock suprised me getting up a hill with no problems that took alot for me to climb, width did cause a little pucker factor. Ill bet if your friend let you have a try at the hill in his disco you might see how much a driver picking a good line has to do with it I do agree withyou on one thing, the winner is the one who enjoys what he/she has. | ||
| Carter Simcoe (Carter) Senior Member Username: Carter Post Number: 2238 Registered: 04-2002 |
Long time no see Craniac, nice pic (especially the sticker ) | ||
| Brian Friend (Brianfriend) Senior Member Username: Brianfriend Post Number: 661 Registered: 09-2002 |
" Also IMHO, the ultimate offroad machine is Brianfriends rig!" I like Steve! | ||
| Steve Reisman (Barton) New Member Username: Barton Post Number: 19 Registered: 02-2003 |
Brianfriend....you put together a dynamite package for an ORV...you well deserve it....but this doesn't mean we'll be taking showers together! Grrrrr Craniac....so YOUR the former disco-owner who sold-out, "tooled-up" and bought yourself a Tahoe2. At least I never owned a disco to start with....boy are you a freakin'loser (I don't know how to make a winky-eye face...so ; ) will have to do). Okay....different rigs for different obstacles...that's a no-brainer. But seriously....there are two flying areas that we desperately tried to get the discovery up to and it just wouldn't happen. My H2 grunted it's way up that hill not to be denied...but the poor disco just couldn't make it. The tires just couldn't grab the terrain well enough, the rear bumper hung out past the rear axle too far and would drag here and there...but the biggest problem was that lack of locker/limited slip on the axles. This hill is really quite steep, has lots of loose gravely-rocks and alternating ruts. There was just no line that could keep you on top of the ruts and the line you chose could not always be held on account of slipping. This particular hill was just better for the H2. Had we had some meatier tires and a rear locker...that would have made the difference. Trust me...we tried several times to get that thing up the hill, instead we had to load all his planes into my rig and just take one rig up to the flying spot. I don't know for certain...but I'd imagine the H2 can side-slope a bit steeper then a disco? | ||
| Andy Thoma (Andythoma) Member Username: Andythoma Post Number: 161 Registered: 01-2003 |
I think all real contractors know that Fords are simply the best work trucks one can buy. Should dweb's store put out a sticker with a Calvin pissing on a hummer badge? What if dweb was a bunch of "... very considerate and kind" guys and gals that still felt the H2 was not true to the spirit of the name hummer? A lot people here have big issues with the fact the new range rover is IFS and IRS. Also the rumors that the forthcoming discovery is also have IFS and IRS has ruffled lots of feathers. I believe there would be people saying that land rover lost its roots, and was a shell using its name to sell with no substance, other than to make latte sipping poseurs happy that if a puddle forms in starbucks, they can make it though. Some might even venture to say any rover newer than 1969 is a sell out to the name. The H2 to me is an image that is intended to project a tough rugged individualist persona. The problem as I see it, is it does it in an audacious grasping for attention sort of way. Why can't I buy a Tahoe with front and rear recovery points and hitches, or the cdl and rear lock with that tire and wheel combination? | ||
| Steve Reisman (Barton) New Member Username: Barton Post Number: 24 Registered: 02-2003 |
Andy.. Thanks for your 'very kind and considerate' observations...although my limied mental capacity may preclude my being able to fully understand just what it is your trying to say.... I can't speak for everyone who bought an H2...but my story is simple. I sorta wanted an H1 but just couldn't bring myself to lay-down a house mortgage to the tune of six-figures to make my offroad ambitionss find a parking space in my garage. The H1 was seemingly crazy-wide, only held 4 people, is very noisy, costly and just not what I consider practical for daily use. Then along came the news of a new model coming, something that was a bit more narrow, was quieter, smoother, full of normal luxury features and could hold my entire family. It's not quite the same offroad beast....but damn if it isn't easy to drive and far more city-practical....and still a shitload more 4x4 then my old Jeep Cherokee. Status, fashion, "Bling-factor"...who Fin' cares. I'm all stock and keep the thing hidden in my garage. I hate coffee, can't tie my own tie, only have one suit to wear twice a year and feel showering and bathing is over-rated. My paint is all scratched up from desert pin-striping and people look at me and wonder why someone would offroad a $60K toy (like a $110K H1 is better?) You could take a Tahoe and put on bigger tires and jazz it all up....but if you seriously think that's all to an H2...then your as wrong as Saddam was to think his people and Allah could fend off our forces with their 'swords'. There are so many modifications and upgrades between a Tahoe and an H2. You can make a Tahoe look like an offroader, but it'll break real quick. It's not geared for bigger tires, it doesn't have the brakes, the bigger axles, the incredibly reinforced chassis/frame, the rear electronic locker, the traction control system, the TC2 system, the approach/departure angles or even the same suspension. I spoke at length with one of the H2 designers and point-blank asked him what he'd say to such an allegation of the H2 being a Tahoe2...and he went through a HUGE list of differences. I suppose you'd think the F-16 is a 'souped-up' Cessena 172? | ||
| thom mathie (Muskyman) Senior Member Username: Muskyman Post Number: 245 Registered: 11-2002 |
well holy frigging crap...look what the cat dragged in i knew as you got more into off-road you'd find your way here...just admit it...your sick of tissue tech tripe and want some real offroading friends thom | ||
| Tripp Westbrook (Tripp) Member Username: Tripp Post Number: 126 Registered: 08-2002 |
I'm beginning to feel some serious love floatiing around in here. Cats and dogs living in harmony? Who'd a thunk it. | ||
| Andy Thoma (Andythoma) Member Username: Andythoma Post Number: 162 Registered: 01-2003 |
Steve, relax man, I'm just giving you crap in fun. Besides, if I can't get my damn discovery to run soon  I'll be on the h2 board talking about how shitty land rovers are with a H2 in the driveway. My first point was; I shouldn't post on dweb while drinking barley wine late at night  , my second point is; I think the H2 is a over the top, look at me kind of vehicle. Hey that's my opinion, and I'm not fond of the truck. The fact you wheel with your truck is great and you deserve respect for taking any vehicle off road that is meant for off road use. I just think GM could have done the same package in something like a Tahoe, and gm did not need to make it look that over the top like the h2 is. I realize the H2 had to be a different than the H1 to meet price point and real world usage. The H1 is not designed for everyone, it has a set role. I just feel the H2 could have been better. To me it seems like a lot of money for a look, without the substance it should have. I agree that the current discovery is not as good as it could be. No cdl or any kind of factory locking diff options? Why can't I buy something like a discovery backcountry edition, that has lockers, mud terrain tires in a 32" size and winch as part of option group package? LR and Toyota with there Land Cruiser know there market here in the US, and they know the typical buyer is a poseur. I commend GM for actually making the H2 with the idea of making a off road worthy vehicle. I just think that unfortunty the same marketing people got to gm that got to toyota and Landrover that said, water it down and make it look good, because that sells, not performance. Tripp is right, we should all live in harmony  . If we did maybe trail access could be better, manufactures would take the off road market seriously and I could get a defender 110 or a nissan Patrol, land crusier with sfa and factory lockers, a work truck version of the g500, a four door rubicon, ... etc. The start of this thread was to comment that that guys H2 is a little overboard. I think most Land Rover owners will agree its overboard, probably why they own LR's and not H2's. But that's what makes this country great, you can have what ever you want if you work for it. | ||
| Andy Thoma (Andythoma) Member Username: Andythoma Post Number: 163 Registered: 01-2003 |
Steve, relax man, I'm just giving you crap in fun. Besides, if I can't get my damn discovery to run soon I'll be on the h2 board talking about how shitty land rovers are with a H2 in the driveway. My first point was; I shouldn't post on dweb while drinking barley wine late at night , my second point is; I think the H2 is a over the top, look at me kind of vehicle. Hey that's my opinion, and I'm not fond of the truck. The fact you wheel with your truck is great and you deserve respect for taking any vehicle off road that is meant for off road use. I just think GM could have done the same package in something like a Tahoe, and gm did not need to make it look that over the top like the h2 is. I realize the H2 had to be a different than the H1 to meet price point and real world usage. The H1 is not designed for everyone, it has a set role. I just feel the H2 could have been better. To me it seems like a lot of money for a look, without the substance it should have. I agree that the current discovery is not as good as it could be. No cdl or any kind of factory locking diff options? Why can't I buy something like a discovery backcountry edition, that has lockers, mud terrain tires in a 32" size and winch as part of option group package? LR and Toyota with there Land Cruiser know there market here in the US, and they know the typical buyer is a poseur. I commend GM for actually making the H2 with the idea of making a off road worthy vehicle. I just think that unfortunty the same marketing people got to gm that got to toyota and Landrover that said, water it down and make it look good, because that sells, not performance. Tripp is right, we should all live in harmony . If we did maybe trail access could be better, manufactures would take the off road market seriously and I could get a defender 110 or a nissan Patrol, land crusier with sfa and factory lockers, a work truck version of the g500, a four door rubicon, ... etc. The start of this thread was to comment that that guys H2 is a little overboard. I think most Land Rover owners will agree its overboard, probably why they own LR's and not H2's. But that's what makes this country great, you can have what ever you want if you work for it. | ||
| Steve Reisman (Barton) New Member Username: Barton Post Number: 29 Registered: 02-2003 |
Gee guys.... To be honest...I was just sick of tissue tech tripe of the H2 forum and wanted some real offroading friends... Love and kisses to you too Muskyman!!! First of all...you've all missed out on one MAJOR thing the H2 is great for and should always be allowed to drive in front of you...to clear a wider path! I love following H1's for that very reason. GM is in business to sell vehicles. No doubt they beefed-out an 800-series planform and dressed it up to resemble a Hummer. NO DOUBT. But you have to hand it to them: they hit the mark...sales far exceeded their expectations and they're selling the shit out of 'em. If the idea was to make money selling a vehicle, they darn well accomplished their goal. Look, the H2 may not be a nimble mountain goat...but it does come stock (warranted!) with big tires, a great 4x4 system (as I understand it we share the same traction control system?), a rear-locker, some skid protection and a host of other reasonably useful and functioning 4x4 features...it's not God's gift to the 4x4 world...but it's not a complete waste. Let me tell ya about the H1....it's a wonderful planform for the miliary...it's versatile and can be a whole lot of vehicles through addaptation: missle-launcher, ambulance, light-infantry carrier, water-tanker, maching gun...etc. For blasting across a desert and surviving a land-mine....it's great...BUT: As an offroader it's not that practical. It's damn wide and has very limiited articulation. In my club, at any given time, there are 4-5 in the shop and most the rest need some form of service...and it's lethally expensive!! They ride hard, are very loud, have poor creature comforts and damned if we don't have one breakdown at every outting we've done! (NO H2 breakdowns yet!). Still....they are monsters and have their place....I just may still get one (waiting to see what the H4...not H3...but H4 is all about). Many H2 owners are in fact former H1 owners...and they love the fact that GM parts are in the rig. Heck....the H1 is jammed full of GM, Ford and other manufacturers parts. Getting away from Hummer exclusive parts is a God-send as considered by most. Many H1 owners turned H2 owners are exceptionally happy with the vehicle. I bought an H2 because I wanted an H1 but needed something more practical for family use and daily driving. I also liked the fact that it costs half as much and sorta figured being engineered with parts that have been around...would provide more reliability and ease of maintainence. I bought it for light-medium offroading to get me to hills and atop mountains to fly sailplanes. This vehicle REALLY hit the mark for me. It's also great for taking the family into the mountains, camping and other stuff. Rock-climbing: NOT!! I was sincerely hoping the H2 would be too beastly for the average yuppie. It disgusts and annoys me that so many pretencious poseur skum are crusing around in these vehicles that haven't the slightest need (or clue) for what those cute little buttons on the dash do. I meet other H2 owners and tell them about my offroad club...and they just look at me like I'm asking them to drive their H2 into the ocean. As one lady said to me: "offroad it? now why would I want to do that??????" But ya know what...it's America...and freedom of choice is where it's at...so to each their own. I try to use my H2 for what it's capable of doing. I wish it would have been about 10-15% smaller though...and the wheelbase is too long....but in keeping sharp approach/departure angles AND trying to have a backseat and cargo area...that's what we're stuck with. What was this thread about anyways???? what web am I on? I soooo confused! | ||
| Carter Simcoe (Carter) Senior Member Username: Carter Post Number: 2250 Registered: 04-2002 |
No traction control over here thank God. Talk to those guys with the big butts. | ||
| Ho Chung (Thediscoho) Moderator Username: Thediscoho Post Number: 125 Registered: 02-2002 |
i guess i have to take steve out wheeling sometime. ---------- Ho Chung | ||
| Kennith P. Whichard III (Kennith) Senior Member Username: Kennith Post Number: 335 Registered: 05-2002 |
Steve, You are right about the H1s. They are a great military pickup truck, where supply chains never end and you need a lot of room in a dummy-proof vehicle. They are simply not that great for recreational off road driving. Two things hold them back, their width and their wheelbase. They are difficult and expensive to modify. Most of all though is that damn 130" wheelbase. Cheers, Kennith | ||
| Evan Price (The_big_daddy) New Member Username: The_big_daddy Post Number: 25 Registered: 02-2003 |
Carter...I have a large butt,(ask Ho) so I don't need traction control. I simply shift a cheek to the other seat. A truck named after a blow job has got to be a good thing. | ||
| Carter Simcoe (Carter) Senior Member Username: Carter Post Number: 2251 Registered: 04-2002 |
LOL | ||
| Steve Reisman (Barton) New Member Username: Barton Post Number: 31 Registered: 02-2003 |
Evan makes a compelling arguement! Ho....let's go a wheelin...anytime!!! But don't go thinking your the first Ho I've taken out wheelin' After all...Ho's & Hummers go hand in hand!  | ||
| Andy Thoma (Andythoma) Member Username: Andythoma Post Number: 167 Registered: 01-2003 |
Give a shout if you ever come to Utah, I'll wheel with you, besides in moab long wheel bases seem to do better on some trails. Also whats the story on the H3 and H4. I thought the H3 is the next one after the p/u version of the H2. I never heard of the H4. Which one was said to compete with the wrangler? | ||
| Steve Reisman (Barton) New Member Username: Barton Post Number: 33 Registered: 02-2003 |
Andrew, Thanks for the invite....I'm afraid (if I visited Utah) I wouldn't want to come back to my home here in California...but it's something to think about!!! From what I know and gather...which means it's subject to error and foul-info...the H3 is not entirely green-lighted as of yet. It is supposed to be based on a smaller Envoy/Trailblazer frame...but they've made it wider and are having issues with finding a fitting rear axle (?). That's what I've heard...spare me the assault by would-be know-it-alls who live to criticize others (not you Andy....just those...well, you know what I mean). A friend of mine saw a prototype H3 and thought it was an H2. What few people realize is that the H2 is actually shorter then an Enoy/Trailblazer...so with a wider body the H3 is not going to be much smaller then an H2....just way scaled down and not as much luxury? Either way...it's going to be very similar to the H2...as in...why bother??? The H4 is still in concept, but it is suppose to be more oriented towards the Jeep. Rumor has it the rig will feature gear-driven hubs (like the H1), CTIS and be based on the size of a D90. It all sounds pretty Fin' cool until the budget-boys rip the designer-boys a new financial A-hole and have them scale it down to the likes of a Jeep Liberty or something pathetic like that. Save your axles cause they're going to be hanging in the Smithzonian very soon....the world is heading IFS/IRS. There is only one solution, the final solution...we have to combine our collective knowledge of what we know works for a real offroader and create our own vehicle that really hits the mark. All we need to do is take Muskyman's Scout and scale it down a bit...then upgrade everything to today's comfort and run with it! Ya know what's scary...I fired up the computer and logged on...and went to this site first today. What is the world coming to? | ||
| my96disco (Trevorh) Member Username: Trevorh Post Number: 181 Registered: 02-2002 |
All this talk about Hummers reminded me of a bike store. Why you might ask. Well there is a company in Vancouver Canada that made a Kick Ass Ti mountain bike and called it a Hummer, top of the line great ride. But for those that did not have the money for a Hummer you could get a cheaper bike that they called a Hand Job. This is without a word of a lie. Other bikes available at this time include, Peeler, G-Spot, Hooker, Stiffie SL, Stiffie FR, and of course still the Hummer and the Handjob. http://www.covebikeshop.com/articlelist.php?grp=8 Any votes for using Handjob for a cheaper no frills version of the GM H2? I can see the television spots now! Just a thought. TrevorH | ||
| Ho Chung (Thediscoho) Moderator Username: Thediscoho Post Number: 126 Registered: 02-2002 |
H1, H2, H3, H4... they all sound like replacement bulbs for automitve lighting. LOL ---------- Ho Chung | ||
| Carter Simcoe (Carter) Senior Member Username: Carter Post Number: 2254 Registered: 04-2002 |
So which ones are the ones that will make my "mexican special" Hellas as bright as the HIDs??? LOL | ||
| Ron L (Ronl) New Member Username: Ronl Post Number: 25 Registered: 11-2002 |
can we see the rest of that "HO" ;-) | ||
| Ho Chung (Thediscoho) Moderator Username: Thediscoho Post Number: 127 Registered: 02-2002 |
now i'm itching to go wheeling with that yellow H2. steve, can you arrange that? ---------- Ho Chung | ||
| Ho Chung (Thediscoho) Moderator Username: Thediscoho Post Number: 128 Registered: 02-2002 |
oh shit, wrong tread. LOL ---------- Ho Chung | ||
| Andy Thoma (Andythoma) Member Username: Andythoma Post Number: 169 Registered: 01-2003 |
Well you'll want to stay in Utah till you drink 3-2 beer,  then you'll want to go back home. If that version of the H4 gets made, I could just become a GM man. Trevor, I always wanted to own a Prince Albert Ti mtb, just so I could tell woman I have a Prince Albert (without the pain of course). Also wanted a S&M cycle company product for the same reasons. Wasn't it Ibis that had the Hand Job brake cable holder, the one that looked like, well a hand job being given to the cable ferrel? | ||
| Steve Reisman (Barton) New Member Username: Barton Post Number: 37 Registered: 02-2003 |
Ho...believe it or not, that big-ass chrome-baby H2 is actually planning on coming with us on the Arrowhead run. I'm not looking forward to it...cause we both know it's gonna bend/break a tie-rod when it hit anything biggger then a speedbump. Still....he wants to come and see what it's all about. He knows he's gonna be very limited to what he can do, but the guy is built like a professional wrestler and just loves customizing things. The H4...a D90-sized vehicle with gear-driven hubs, CTIS and super-short approach/departure angles. If it's done right...it could have some serious potential...but what are the chances it'll emerge as anything more then a Jeep Liberty. Come on boys...we gotta just start our own company and do it right! Hey...dumb question...but just how does a Disco stack up against a Range Rover or a D90? and why aren't defenders shipped over here regularly????? | ||
| Rans (Rans) Senior Member Username: Rans Post Number: 508 Registered: 08-2002 |
Defenders - No airbags, no import. (I think there are additional reasons) Stock 2003 Range Rover supposedly the best off-road vehicle ever from Land-Rover. Disco probably better than RR when modifications are considered. Just my .02 | ||
| Brian Friend (Brianfriend) Senior Member Username: Brianfriend Post Number: 673 Registered: 09-2002 |
Disco and D90 share a lot of the same componants. D90----less weight, shorter wb and more clearance. The new RR is absolutly amazing, but I don't think I will see very many mods on one fro a LONG time. Lots and Lots of technology on that thing. | ||
| Greg (Gparrish) Senior Member Username: Gparrish Post Number: 1219 Registered: 04-2002 |
My opinion is that the older and simpler vehicles are better for real off roading. The range rover, and the D2 for that matter, just have too many things that can go wrong that would be impossible to field repair. | ||
| Steve Reisman (Barton) Member Username: Barton Post Number: 42 Registered: 02-2003 |
Greg....is that blasphemy? Just tonight I was checking out a RR and sorta noticed something: slap on some bigger tires, raise it an inch or two, cut-off some front-end and trim the back-end...and you pretty much have the makings of an H2? Out of curiousity...how do you guys feel the Disco compares to the likes of a Rubicon? | ||
| Kyle Van Tassel (Kyle) Moderator Username: Kyle Post Number: 227 Registered: 11-2002 |
The Rubicon will do it better , the Disco will do it longer... Kyle "Blow me" | ||
| Christopher Dynak (Adtoolco) Member Username: Adtoolco Post Number: 175 Registered: 08-2002 |
Greg is right. The lenses on the D2 suck.  -Chris | ||
| Andy Thoma (Andythoma) Member Username: Andythoma Post Number: 176 Registered: 01-2003 |
Steve you summed up the Rubicon the best way, too small for most people. I drove one while my truck was broken down last saturday. I liked it, very capable, nice low pressure air lockers that have a great driver interface to be bullet proof. But my wife thought it was a death trap and way to uncivilized and small. I guess I'm whipped, but she likes wheeling with me and if I got a rubi, I'm sure she wouldn't want to go anymore, so no rubi in my future. I guess it would be okay as a play vehicle, probably the same way as a defender is. I did think you would need to modify it to really use it off road. Tires are 245/75/16's about 31" I would want to go to about a 33". It could use a mild lift and swaybar disconnects, maybe about a 2-3" lift. The bumpers look like you would easily mess them up offroad; I guess you could take the trim caps of of them, but I would prefer something that could hold a winch and have some use as a jack point and recover point. I think if I got one I would end up needing a commuting car, as Kyle said a disco can do it longer. I'd like to see you cram 3 weeks of food and gear in the rubi and drive 12 hours a day in it. | ||
| Steve Reisman (Barton) Member Username: Barton Post Number: 46 Registered: 02-2003 |
Andy... Your description of what to do to a Rubicon is exactly right on the money...little bigger tires, mild lift, remove sway-bar: not many places that nimble little thing won't penetrate! But....as soon as you want to carry 5 passengers and some luggage....your "out" of the cute little Rubicon-class-sized vehicle and your making sacrifices in offroad capability. Reminds me of fishing: a trolling rod, a casting rod and a whole assortment of things which each satisfy a particular purpose/need. |
