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Mark Devereux (Groupw)
Member Username: Groupw
Post Number: 41 Registered: 12-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2003 - 09:48 am: |
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Now that I got your attention... I've been finishing my annual upgrades and was getting ready to buy tires. When I checked with John at EE to make sure I had the right amout of equal for 265/75's I mentioned that I was probably going to Interco Trxys tires. OK, I've done a ton of research, and can't really find anything bad about these tires, but John completely went off of how much these tires suck. In fact all Interco tires suck. Basically, they are POS, can't be balanced, come out of round, etc, etc. Has anyone had any bad experiences with their Trxys? Do they balance? Do they suck so bad that it can't be measured? |
   
Greg Davis (Gregdavis)
Senior Member Username: Gregdavis
Post Number: 800 Registered: 08-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2003 - 10:02 am: |
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Mark, I had a set of bias-ply TSL's mounted this past weekend, and used 5oz of Equal per tire. I'm having a horrible time with a wobble at about 40mph. However, I firmly beleive that it's attributed to the wheels, rather than the tires. My friend just put on a set of Swamper SSR's (37x12.5) on his Hummer, and is not having any problems what-so-ever. I'll keep you posted, but I really don't think it's the tires fault in my situation. Plus, these will be for trail only, and I'm keeping my Yoko radials for daily use. Only thing I've ever heard consistantly about the Interco tires is they wear rapidly (soft compound). |
   
Alan Bates (Alanb)
Member Username: Alanb
Post Number: 144 Registered: 07-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2003 - 10:15 am: |
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I have been running trxus in the 235/85/16 size for about 9 months now, balanced with weights when installed with no problems and it is still running great, haven't even re-balanced or rotated them, love these tires, they are also wearing excellent, I have put about 8k miles on them and I can't even tell the wear. Yea I would love to have BFG KM's or MTR's or some other brand that usually cost twice as much, but I am on a budget and for the price I can't really complain. Do a search, most people have positve things to say about the trxus tires. Flame me if you want, but to me these tires are awsome, on and off road. |
   
Mark Devereux (Groupw)
Member Username: Groupw
Post Number: 42 Registered: 12-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2003 - 10:22 am: |
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Alan, Believe me, I've done the search and only found positive reviews. I posted because I have to give the EE opinion a lot weight. |
   
Scott Tschantz (Scott)
New Member Username: Scott
Post Number: 21 Registered: 02-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2003 - 10:32 am: |
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I also have these tires and they have been very good. The ride and handling and the tread life are doing great and no problem balanceing them. I have Bfgs on my 90 and when they are shot trxus it will be |
   
Brian Dickens (Bri)
Senior Member Username: Bri
Post Number: 320 Registered: 08-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2003 - 10:49 am: |
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I would be curious to hear what sucks about them. I am running them and after hearing Larry Grubbs experience with them was somewhat concerned since he apparently was cutting sidewalls regularly. I looked at mine and there are indeed some scratches in the sidewalls, but I think other tires would have the scratches as well. You get what you pay for IMHO, these are fairly inexpensive tires and thus far from my own experiences I am pretty pleased. There is another thread that you can find within the last week or two on this same subject. |
   
Kyle Van Tassel (Kyle)
Moderator Username: Kyle
Post Number: 201 Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2003 - 10:58 am: |
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They suck,,,,,, its true. Its like taking a tire off a tractor and making it streetable to open other markets. While it kicks ass on the farm it just plain sucks on the road. The old Bias swampers are really good tires for doing one thing. Outside of that they pretty much just suck ass.. Kyle "Blow me"
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Alan Bates (Alanb)
Member Username: Alanb
Post Number: 147 Registered: 07-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2003 - 11:08 am: |
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Kyle, I believe the trxus are radials, have you had any personal experience with the trxus tires, or are you just going off on interco tires in general. |
   
Jaime (Blueboy)
Senior Member Username: Blueboy
Post Number: 623 Registered: 02-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2003 - 11:17 am: |
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Mark, like Alan, I also have 235/85-16 TrXus MTs on my RR. imho, the tires lack quality consistancy. now, they also don't cost much either and perform well on and off road plus they are radials. however, compared to the BFG Trac-Edges I previously had on the RR, you can tell the difference in quality. mine also had to be balanced by weights as the tires differ so much that you would have to inject just the right amount of Equal to get them to balance. feel pretty sure it can be done if you have a machine like EE has at their shop. you like others could be lucky and get a good set which could balance very easily. I wasn't and could not obtain the really good benefits of the Equal product. just as a side bar, the guys at EE really did their best to help me with the situation. personally I'm going to something else when these wear out. Jaime
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Alan Bates (Alanb)
Member Username: Alanb
Post Number: 148 Registered: 07-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2003 - 11:37 am: |
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Jaime has a good point, I may have gotten a set made on Wednesday instead of Monday, but I still think if you are on a budget, the trxus are a great tire, but if not, you might want to look around and check all your options. |
   
Neil Flanagan (Electriceel)
Member Username: Electriceel
Post Number: 67 Registered: 02-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2003 - 12:33 pm: |
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"but I still think if you are on a budget..." Your tires. Those four little contact patches that keep you stuck to the trail or road. Is that something you REALLY want to skimp on.... Just a thought. |
   
Will Roeder (Will_roeder)
Senior Member Username: Will_roeder
Post Number: 617 Registered: 02-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2003 - 12:37 pm: |
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I have the TSL's on my truck (Bias ply) and they are not that bad. Mine are balanced fine, and i dont have any type of "wobble". I know several others who have had similar experiences as me. Sure, they are louder on road, and do not ride as good as a regualr MT (like a BFG or Goodyear),But for me, the TSLs are great. They are awesome off road, and i have had good luck with them on road as well. However, i only drive about 8K miles a year, so i dont spend so much time driving like some of you.... I havent heard anything but positive comments about the Trxus |
   
Jaime (Blueboy)
Senior Member Username: Blueboy
Post Number: 624 Registered: 02-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2003 - 12:42 pm: |
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don't think that TrXus MTs are death traps Neil! just that the build quality is not consistant. even taking that into account, they still are decent tires. they are damn good for MTs in the snow and rain as they are heavily siped. there are other tires that are better, yet, as Alan mentioned, for the price they're a pretty good deal. Jaime |
   
Peter Matusov (Pmatusov)
Senior Member Username: Pmatusov
Post Number: 647 Registered: 09-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2003 - 12:43 pm: |
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Brian, i've cut a few sidewalls on BFG M/Ts this year... when I convince myself that i need a totally new set of tires, they are likely to be some of Michelin X*L type. peter |
   
Brian Dickens (Bri)
Senior Member Username: Bri
Post Number: 322 Registered: 08-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2003 - 12:48 pm: |
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I like the MTs as well and ran them for years. Did not want to pay the price so I tried something else. So far so good. My steelies are balanced with weights by a very good off-road shop, so I have had no issues with balance. I do not run the Txrus everyday. My everyday tire is the BFG AT. |
   
John Kruger (Johnnyk)
Member Username: Johnnyk
Post Number: 190 Registered: 02-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2003 - 12:59 pm: |
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BFG MTs are my tires of choice. Great Prices for them at the Tire Rack John www.teampb.com
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Neil Flanagan (Electriceel)
Member Username: Electriceel
Post Number: 68 Registered: 02-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2003 - 01:00 pm: |
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I'm sure they are a fine tire, but I just don't understand the reasoning behind trying to save a few bucks on something that has an inconsistant build quality.
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Ho Chung (Thediscoho)
Moderator Username: Thediscoho
Post Number: 112 Registered: 02-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2003 - 01:03 pm: |
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neil, it's a jeep thing, you'd not understand.  ---------- Ho Chung
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Brian Dickens (Bri)
Senior Member Username: Bri
Post Number: 323 Registered: 08-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2003 - 01:09 pm: |
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If I would have heard this, possibly I would not have made the same decision, but I have not had a problem with any build quality issues. The tires thus far operate quite well. In fact so far I believe that they have performed as well or better than my BFG MTs. They are definitely better than an unsiped MT in the wet. Time will likely tell how they perform with prolonged abuse.
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Eddie (Honu)
Member Username: Honu
Post Number: 74 Registered: 01-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2003 - 01:11 pm: |
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trxus suck! about a year ago i posted an ad about these tires when they first came out asking if anyone had heard anything about them. all the feed back was negative! cant believe you didnt find the post in your search. anyway the majority of the complaints that where voiced on d web where that the side wall was a major weak point. tending to pop or shred while on rocky trails. I needed new tires for my yearly baja trips where the trails are littered with shrp rocks. so given this info that was given to me via d web i went to 4 wheel parts to check out the tires. they looked good. real good. but i was not going for looks i was looking for serious durability. The guy at 4 wheel parts was telling me that they where great tires for construction sites and that type of "off road work" so iasked him if he had heard anything negative about the tires. he hesitated and told me that they had sold three complete sets of the trxus tires out of there shop and every customer came back with one or more slashed and or popped side walls. He basically told me they suck! they seem good for driving around town and looking cool or hitting the slate granite or gravel roads or constuction sites, but anything else i am sceptical. if you wheel close to home and you can get help pretty easy then go for them, but if you plan on being out in the sticks where you cant get a new tire right away i would go for the futura mud terrains. they blow away the trxus and are good solid tire for the money. been using them in baja, the sierras, utah, and no problems to this date. i paid 89.99 a tire at pep boys. they are generic cooper muds. cheers. by the way the trxus is not a MT tire.. |
   
RVR OVR (Tom)
Senior Member Username: Tom
Post Number: 753 Registered: 07-2001
| Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2003 - 01:24 pm: |
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I have been running Interco tires for quite some time now. No problems, solid construction, firm feel on the road, keep in balance, etc. However, all if this experience is with Bias Ply TSL's. Persnonally, I wouldn't go with the TRXUS tires. While the build quality issues might be because they were early production, I don't think they would greatly blow away any more tried and true MT's or AT's in terms of trail performance. They do have a weaker ply rating than other similarly priced tires. I would put these in line with the BFG commercial tires that everybody was so hot about a couple years back. Decent hybrid performance, but not enough strength for playing on the rocks or jaggies. That being said, I have seen many a BFG MT blow a sidewall as well, and after they wear down a bit they are just as loud as the TSL's I run. Tom
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Eddie (Honu)
Member Username: Honu
Post Number: 75 Registered: 01-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2003 - 01:33 pm: |
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"Decent hybrid performance, but not enough strength for playing on the rocks or jaggies. " i totally agree...anyway the if you are interested the futura tires are called the enforcers. there are few people besides myself on d web that run them. for the price they can not be beat.
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Neil Flanagan (Electriceel)
Member Username: Electriceel
Post Number: 69 Registered: 02-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2003 - 01:38 pm: |
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"neil, it's a jeep thing, you'd not understand. " With that statement, I'm on my way home to put the 265/85 Buckshots from the 90 onto the Disco. Atleast the sidewalls will remain intact in my search for 'understanding'... Which, by the way, with 3.5" of lift, stuff nicely in the wheel wells of the Disco. My usable turning radius was about 50' but DAMN they looked good... |
   
Peter Matusov (Pmatusov)
Senior Member Username: Pmatusov
Post Number: 651 Registered: 09-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2003 - 01:55 pm: |
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Eddie, i have a set of Futuras. They perform very good off road, but suck on pavement, and wear... they just melt on your eyes!
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Ho Chung (Thediscoho)
Moderator Username: Thediscoho
Post Number: 113 Registered: 02-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2003 - 02:05 pm: |
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this is perfect. interco sucks, no they don't, i've had them for long time and they are great, oh no, you never do shit with the tires, so how would you know if they are great? they suck, get futuras, no futuras suck too, they melt on road, and suck shit on wet. no you're wrong, they all suck the same, might as well get the cheapest. no no, you are all wrong, go rethreads.
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RVR OVR (Tom)
Senior Member Username: Tom
Post Number: 754 Registered: 07-2001
| Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2003 - 02:21 pm: |
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it's a shame when the moderator sounds like a troll |
   
Eddie (Honu)
Member Username: Honu
Post Number: 78 Registered: 01-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2003 - 02:23 pm: |
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futuras do not melt on road they do wear thin though....ive got close to 20k on mine now and no melting....they are wearing thin but for 89.00 dollars a pop..who cares if they dont wear as long as 150 dollar tire. |
   
Enoch Snyder (Esnyder)
Member Username: Esnyder
Post Number: 41 Registered: 10-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2003 - 02:27 pm: |
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I've heard of the TRXUS breaking treads off, they kind of hang out there. Not sure if the original poster is running two sets of rims or not. If not, he might think about it. I run trac-edges as my street tire, and Co-op Gripspurs (7.50x16) for my serious off-road tire. Terrible on the road (although not too much wobble), but it doesn't really matter too much because I don't drive them much on pavement. How the tire handles on the road is less of an issue with the two rim set up. Then you can really get a nasty set of bias ply off-road tires and not try to play around with the TRXUS. Of course, for many reasons running two sets of rims may not be practical for the original poster, and that would make everything I just said not worth very much... |
   
Ho Chung (Thediscoho)
Moderator Username: Thediscoho
Post Number: 114 Registered: 02-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2003 - 02:27 pm: |
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tom, that's reality. wake up and smell the coffee. ---------- Ho Chung
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Blue (Bluegill)
Senior Member Username: Bluegill
Post Number: 2214 Registered: 02-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2003 - 03:24 pm: |
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I'll take one sugar, no cream |
   
Brian Dickens (Bri)
Senior Member Username: Bri
Post Number: 324 Registered: 08-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2003 - 03:27 pm: |
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Man, tough crowd around here. Its not like everyone is telling each other that you don't know what you are talking about (at least that is not *my* intention). Some of us are merely discussing our practical experience with the different tires. Frankly I have done some with Trxus tires (like moderate to difficult trails, not hardcore), but likely not what Larry Grubbs and others have done, then again I am unlikely to do much of what Larry does and the tires *may* continue to perform well for what I do. Maybe they won't but they are a fairly inexpensive alternative that so far I am happy with. So far as happy as I was with much more expensive BFG MTs. Likely next tire I will go with something much more agressive. |
   
Robert Sublett (Rubisco98)
Senior Member Username: Rubisco98
Post Number: 788 Registered: 04-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2003 - 03:34 pm: |
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"i would go for the futura mud terrains. they blow away the trxus and are good solid tire for the money." "by the way the trxus is not a MT tire.." I would have to disagree that the Enforcer blows away the trXus tires, and I'm pretty sure that the trxus are called trXus MTs. Here's my .02... Ok, I had a set of the Pep Boy Enforcer M/Ts on my Disco for less than a year and around 35k miles. I really liked them, they were very nice in the beginning on the trails but seemed too slippery in the wet muck, they were also a bit slippery in the rain on the streets, but not too bad. I decided to try a set of the Interco trXus M/Ts this time around. So far, I've put around 3k on them, and I love them. As far as on the trails they have done nothing but surprise me, and they clean themselves very well. I do not have any problems (yet) with balancing, etc. They will not be staying on for daily use after next week though, and will be dedicated weekend trail runners. |
   
Ho Chung (Thediscoho)
Moderator Username: Thediscoho
Post Number: 115 Registered: 02-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2003 - 04:01 pm: |
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well mark, i guess you'll have to ... JUST DO IT!
 ---------- Ho Chung
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Blue (Bluegill)
Senior Member Username: Bluegill
Post Number: 2216 Registered: 02-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2003 - 06:09 pm: |
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O O O O I'll stick with my big O's  |
   
Mark Devereux (Groupw)
Member Username: Groupw
Post Number: 43 Registered: 12-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2003 - 06:56 pm: |
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right on Ho! That's been my plan all along. At least I finally stirred the masses on the web. I appreciate everyones input. I agree with "cheap is not always smart" and durability is definately an issue. My truck may not go extreme, but it does go for extended trips into the middle of nowhere. |
   
James (Jimmyg)
Member Username: Jimmyg
Post Number: 220 Registered: 10-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2003 - 06:59 pm: |
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I heard that Boggers are the best on road and do alright as well in mud! |
   
Ho Chung (Thediscoho)
Moderator Username: Thediscoho
Post Number: 117 Registered: 02-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2003 - 07:04 pm: |
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i know how that goes. you know they suck, or at least the chances of them sucking is there. but you want to hear from someone that they are great, or at least not as bad as you think they are. so ... JUST DO IT! ---------- Ho Chung
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D. Chapman (1hank1)
Member Username: 1hank1
Post Number: 127 Registered: 02-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2003 - 08:17 pm: |
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I have the interco M/T's on my truck and really like them. I run the 255/85 witch is an 8 ply tire. I have had no problems with the side walls yet. I have had them off-road about 5 times now, and ran them about 3k miles. The side lugs are chipping but other than that the tire is great. Im sure if you run 50psi in the tires off-road you would have a problem with the side wall cutting. I run anywhere from 12 to 20psi off road. The 265/75's I think are 10 ply, so the way the sidewalls work off-road may differ from mine. On the road the the tires are ok. I run them at 35psi on road. I have not had a problem with the balanceing. I have had them balanced twice since I got them because the weights keep getting ripped off while in the mountians. I had thought about Equal but I like the balancing ring thing idea better, so I may go with that. Interstate driving is fine aswell, and the wear has been even. I don't understand why you would buy this tire as a "Off Road only tire" and have a set of "On Road" tires. The Bias Ply tire is alot better off road. The ride on road is no good but who cares if you have a back up. If you bust a side wall just patch it. They may be a little more expensive but if you are running two sets of tires that really won't matter to you. I don't know if these tires will go head to head with the Goodyear M/T's or not, but I have had good luck with this tire so far. But at under $115.00 a tire you really have to think about trying them. |
   
Mark Devereux (Groupw)
Member Username: Groupw
Post Number: 44 Registered: 12-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2003 - 08:42 pm: |
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FYI - here is a pretty interesting first hand review. http://www.gis.net/~zacharer/jeep/reviews/trxusreview.html |
   
Robert Sublett (Rubisco98)
Senior Member Username: Rubisco98
Post Number: 789 Registered: 04-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2003 - 08:52 pm: |
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I just drive on the road so much during the week that I don't want to wear down a set of off-road tires in a matter of a few months. I've got a set of A/Ts for the daily running in a 245/75 as compared to the Interco 235/85's. One inch should make a difference.. at least that is what my wife says |
   
Keith Kreutzer (Revor)
Member Username: Revor
Post Number: 183 Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2003 - 11:21 pm: |
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Just FWIW... I've owned 6 sets of swampers, TSL's TSL radials And SSR's All in the big sizes that make you wonder about whether or not they can actually be balanced !!!! The Bias plys flat spotted bad overnight but cleaned up their act in about 2 miles at 40 degrees F. The TSL Raidals wore out in about 20,000 miles 50/50 off and on road The SSR's are doing much better and have about 15K on them and are about half gone... But all the above tires balanced well, the sidewalls lived through it and they behaved pretty well considering their size... And they are very sticky and grab rocks well! I'm also a big fan of BFG's and have a set of 235 AT's for winter and 32-11.50's for summer... They don't chunk as bad as my old swampers but I haven't taken a BFG products where I have taken the Swampers... The Swamper is truely more geared for off road use hence it wears more quickly... I can't say much about the truxus, i've heard it works well for the price... The Next set of tires I buy will likely be SSR's or MTR's though... 37X12.50-16's Oh! Those are for the 109.... I run mostly rocks and stumps... |
   
Brian Friend (Brianfriend)
Senior Member Username: Brianfriend
Post Number: 641 Registered: 09-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2003 - 11:49 pm: |
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I'm running futura mt. They have been fine but the lugs tend to get torn off. I had a horrible shake, figurd it was ballance problem and it was. Lot and lots of lugs were torn off. I dont' think the sidewalls are very strong. I think that I would buy them again though because the are inexpensive and they do fine off road. Forget it in snow or ice. Scare me to death. If I get them again I will definatly sipe them. But now........My 35" are on wheels and my dream of running big tires is coming close to fruition. Then again I see Keith's 37" and I think, Hhhhmmmm, hand rubbing chin, "maybe, just maybe" |
   
Blake Luse (Muddyrover)
Senior Member Username: Muddyrover
Post Number: 801 Registered: 02-2002
| Posted on Thursday, April 10, 2003 - 01:40 am: |
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The trxus tires are nothing but exceptional. Though not the best tire for off road, that would go to either boggers, or tsl sx (which are interco made), they do a great job. These tires are not made to be the most aggressive offroad tire. They do perform well off road and as Robert said have surprised me too. They do what they are supposed to do. They are suppose to be a good less agressive (more like bfg m/t) tire that performs good offroad, and that acts more like an a/t on road. But as the old saying goes "don't knock it till ya try it" |
   
David Morin (Sporin)
New Member Username: Sporin
Post Number: 26 Registered: 02-2003
| Posted on Thursday, April 10, 2003 - 08:18 am: |
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I've never read a bad word about the trXus MTs and the local offroading board I belong too swears by them. But, if you are concerned, then I would suggest another tire... The Kumho Venture MT.
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/products/kumho/index.html http://www.off-road.com/jeep/products/kumho/index2.html http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Kumho&tireModel=Venture+MT The reviews are pretty great... no? When I go to 33's next spring, I originally thought I'd be going with the trXus MTs, but the overwhelmingly positive reviews of the Kuhmos have swayed me. I'll still run my 31" BFG AT's for winter though. |
   
Nadim Samara (Discodino)
New Member Username: Discodino
Post Number: 33 Registered: 02-2003
| Posted on Thursday, April 10, 2003 - 09:13 am: |
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TSL Radials SUCK: http://www.discoweb.org/nadim/TSLonsteel_.jpg Now going for 36" SX that I'll be grooving! |
   
Peter Matusov (Pmatusov)
Senior Member Username: Pmatusov
Post Number: 652 Registered: 09-2002
| Posted on Thursday, April 10, 2003 - 11:58 am: |
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quote:you know they suck, or at least the chances of them sucking is there. but you want to hear from someone that they are great, or at least not as bad as you think they are.
damn Ho, you being sarcasting these days... D.Chapman, out of six or seven times I've busted a sidewall on a tire, only one was at street pressure. All others were aired down. The only one that got its sidewall punched by a manzanita branch might have survived it just okay if it was aired UP to 50 psi, but it was a C-rated BFG M/T with 35 psi max. peter |
   
Brian Dickens (Bri)
Senior Member Username: Bri
Post Number: 330 Registered: 08-2002
| Posted on Thursday, April 10, 2003 - 12:18 pm: |
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Definitely get a tire that is E rated (IMHO). |
   
Chris Browne (Chris_browne)
Member Username: Chris_browne
Post Number: 46 Registered: 02-2003
| Posted on Thursday, April 10, 2003 - 02:18 pm: |
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wheels/Tires vibrate for several reasons, off balence and being out of round being just two.
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Rob Davison (Nosivad_bor)
Senior Member Username: Nosivad_bor
Post Number: 221 Registered: 02-2003
| Posted on Thursday, April 10, 2003 - 03:47 pm: |
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The question is not "do they suck" but do they swallow rd |
   
Robbie Donaldson (Robbie)
Senior Member Username: Robbie
Post Number: 342 Registered: 02-2002
| Posted on Thursday, April 10, 2003 - 03:55 pm: |
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serious question, we now know all the tires you hate Ho, what tires do you like? we know of course the michelins. problem being, almost impossible to find 7.50 or 8.25, and even if you did, they are at $200+ a tire for new. are there any others that would rate well in your book? just looking for an honest opinion. |
   
Ho Chung (Thediscoho)
Moderator Username: Thediscoho
Post Number: 118 Registered: 02-2002
| Posted on Thursday, April 10, 2003 - 04:06 pm: |
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robbie, it's a "mind over matter" thing. if you feel a certain tire is worthy of your trust, then go for it. in my book, interco, firestone, pro-comp and dunlop are sucky tires, and they won't swallow either. all the other brands are fine i guess. ---------- Ho Chung
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Robbie Donaldson (Robbie)
Senior Member Username: Robbie
Post Number: 343 Registered: 02-2002
| Posted on Thursday, April 10, 2003 - 05:09 pm: |
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ok, cool. thanks for a straight and honest answer. |
   
Jaime (Blueboy)
Senior Member Username: Blueboy
Post Number: 625 Registered: 02-2002
| Posted on Thursday, April 10, 2003 - 08:57 pm: |
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well my InterCos suck and they swallowed much Equal which they liked. does that count??? Jaime |
   
John Lee (Johnlee)
New Member Username: Johnlee
Post Number: 32 Registered: 03-2003
| Posted on Friday, April 11, 2003 - 11:11 am: |
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To paraphrase Satchel Paige: "Interco tires are question of mind over matter. If you don't mind, it don't matter."
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RJ Clayton (Tozovr)
Senior Member Username: Tozovr
Post Number: 341 Registered: 09-2002
| Posted on Sunday, April 13, 2003 - 05:53 pm: |
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Yeah. All interco's suck. None of the Michelins suck...They Rule...no problems ever...unless you read page 14 of LRW (Feb 2003)...oh wait, does LRW suck? Oh no sorry, just jeeps suck....fawkin web wheelers...I heard from so and he heard from so and so who read on....
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Kyle Van Tassel (Kyle)
Moderator Username: Kyle
Post Number: 221 Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Sunday, April 13, 2003 - 07:22 pm: |
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RJ , you got alot of balls talking about web wheelers. You are just getting started in a Jeep and your brother (I believe) is just getting started in a Disco. You are making that statement in a thread amongst people that have run quite alot of the US on all different kinds of tires. Not to mention that alot of them were probably already driving when you were still shitting green.. In closing , back the fuck (Not "Fawk" you fucking weenie)up you short distance , wet behind the ears , WEB BASED buisness owner. And think about the statements before you make them. A couple of shots of you ona ramp in your driveway do NOT make you an authority on much.. Kyle "Blow me"
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Carter Simcoe (Carter)
Senior Member Username: Carter
Post Number: 2227 Registered: 04-2002
| Posted on Sunday, April 13, 2003 - 07:35 pm: |
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RJ Clayton (Tozovr)
Senior Member Username: Tozovr
Post Number: 342 Registered: 09-2002
| Posted on Sunday, April 13, 2003 - 07:56 pm: |
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Please...while I'm no 40 year old from NY making big bucks from the interest on my Trust fund, I've been wheeling my own rigs for 13 years...'81 CJ, '79 FJ40 and then, 85 Bronco, now the XJ. The disco is new to me and a fine vehicle (my cousin by the way...) We really don't do much with it as of yet. I do the AV4X4 thing for FUN, just like all the trips I run and attend. I do this. All the time. I do have a presence on the web, but I'm no schmuck who drops loads of cash on his rig and lets it see a fire road once a month. While there's nothing wrong with that, it certainly makes their opinions of off pavement gear suspect. You guys kill me...thanks for taking me to school Kyle, you sure showed me. Take care and have fun talking about wheeling guys, I'll be getting my Jeep unstuck... Oh and Kyle, take your back yard wheeling shit and suck it. You have no idea what you're talking about, just like I have no clue how often you wheel or where. The point of my post was that everyone has different opinions of things...it's those that base them solely on shit they read on Bulletin boards is Bunk. Get out there and see what works. Like me on that ramp cycling the new (then) OME suspension on the truck. Just seeing if we would need new shocks... Blow you? Nah, I don't like mulletts...
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George Clayton (Offcamber)
Member Username: Offcamber
Post Number: 79 Registered: 09-2002
| Posted on Sunday, April 13, 2003 - 08:29 pm: |
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Kyle.....Nice pony tail.....your Boyfriend hang onto that while reading the tatoos on your back? (From the brother....uh......cousin) I'd pit your wheeling capabilities against RJ's anyday. He's been INVITED to Rover events because of his knowledge, abilities, and all-around good spiritedness.....Regardless of what he's been driving at the time (Choice this year is a 1999 XJ). Why don't you go find someone trying to equip their rig with a supercharger, new bitchin' stereo, or change their heated seat element, and play with them for a while....Lay off the people who actually SEE mud.....build the love ya' FAWKIN Trustafarian.... Oh.....and by the way......Interco has my vote for wheeling sneaks, but I think the Roadies are going to be the Geolanders for road kindliness... |
   
joe (Redneckroverboy)
New Member Username: Redneckroverboy
Post Number: 1 Registered: 04-2003
| Posted on Sunday, April 13, 2003 - 08:40 pm: |
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kyle... you posses a lot of technical knowledge about discoveries, but that does not give you a free pass to be an asshole. you created discoweb- great! it has brought a lot of owners together and has allowed much knowledge to be shared. but please, to start being a jackass to someone just because they drive a jeep is ridiculous. you give us rover owners who like all makes a bad name. i have met and wheeled with RJ, and i can say that he is no newbie and it a great guy to have on the trail. he keeps a positive attitude and isnt afraid to take a harder line, and if he fails he laughs it off. he has an incredible amount of patience on the trail, evidently except for morons like you. im not going to break out the homosexual insults because i dont agree with them, but you need to stop- plain and simple. if you need to hear that in terms you might understand, well how about shut the fuck up. |
   
Carter Simcoe (Carter)
Senior Member Username: Carter
Post Number: 2232 Registered: 04-2002
| Posted on Sunday, April 13, 2003 - 08:40 pm: |
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George Clayton (Offcamber)
Member Username: Offcamber
Post Number: 80 Registered: 09-2002
| Posted on Sunday, April 13, 2003 - 08:45 pm: |
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There ya go, Carter....Image finally stuck..... Which one are you again?....No ponytail, but that must be Kyle on the Right. |
   
joe (Redneckroverboy)
New Member Username: Redneckroverboy
Post Number: 2 Registered: 04-2003
| Posted on Sunday, April 13, 2003 - 08:45 pm: |
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so if the one on the right is kyle, then who is on the left? must be ho. |
   
Will Roeder (Will_roeder)
Senior Member Username: Will_roeder
Post Number: 624 Registered: 02-2002
| Posted on Sunday, April 13, 2003 - 08:49 pm: |
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Thats RJ and George "Offcamber" (???) Clayton... what does Ho or John Lee have to do with this?
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George Clayton (Offcamber)
Member Username: Offcamber
Post Number: 81 Registered: 09-2002
| Posted on Sunday, April 13, 2003 - 08:50 pm: |
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Oh, jeeze.......thought it was a picture of Carter and Kyle's last Wheeling adventure....see, there's a Jeep in the background..... |
   
Carter Simcoe (Carter)
Senior Member Username: Carter
Post Number: 2233 Registered: 04-2002
| Posted on Sunday, April 13, 2003 - 08:55 pm: |
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Kyle and I have never been on any wheeling adventures but I would go with him long before I went with you. |
   
George Clayton (Offcamber)
Member Username: Offcamber
Post Number: 82 Registered: 09-2002
| Posted on Sunday, April 13, 2003 - 08:58 pm: |
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joe (Redneckroverboy)
New Member Username: Redneckroverboy
Post Number: 3 Registered: 04-2003
| Posted on Sunday, April 13, 2003 - 09:01 pm: |
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so i guess my rover sucks because it is running interco tires? i dont think that 36s on a truck with no lift is so bad, but what do i know- my name isnt kyle
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Steve Cooper (Scrover)
Senior Member Username: Scrover
Post Number: 280 Registered: 09-2002
| Posted on Sunday, April 13, 2003 - 09:42 pm: |
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no joe, your rover doesn't suck because it is running interco tires. |
   
Henry Fox (Henryfox)
Senior Member Username: Henryfox
Post Number: 243 Registered: 06-2002
| Posted on Sunday, April 13, 2003 - 09:42 pm: |
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No, Adam err Joe, it sucks simply because it's a peice of shit. I am surprised the tires have not jumped off on their own in an attempt to get away from that heap in embarresment. Shit dude, I can put 36" tires of a fucking Miata if I cut half the damn body off, so really you have done nothing except trash a Series. Henry
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Craig Kobayashi (Koby)
Senior Member Username: Koby
Post Number: 314 Registered: 02-2002
| Posted on Sunday, April 13, 2003 - 10:05 pm: |
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Hmmm. Let's see. I have a good sound system in my Disco, and I installed my own seat heater elements. I also wheel from time to time. Don't mouth off without doing your homework. |
   
Will Roeder (Will_roeder)
Senior Member Username: Will_roeder
Post Number: 625 Registered: 02-2002
| Posted on Sunday, April 13, 2003 - 10:16 pm: |
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Henry, How is Adam's (Joe's) truck a POS? sure, anyone with a series could have done what he did...but how many have? |
   
joe (Redneckroverboy)
New Member Username: Redneckroverboy
Post Number: 4 Registered: 04-2003
| Posted on Sunday, April 13, 2003 - 10:26 pm: |
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oh no, im offended! you guys are a bunch of trolls... ive ruined a series? well i think that youve ruined your disco by not taking it to its full potential. kind of like why your wife cheats on you, you just dont give her what she needs... |
   
Kyle Van Tassel (Kyle)
Moderator Username: Kyle
Post Number: 222 Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Monday, April 14, 2003 - 05:27 am: |
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"i have met and wheeled with RJ, and i can say that he is no newbie and it a great guy to have on the trail" This is Beautifull , considering Adam is like 12 or something.... lol This should get good...The brat pack has been awakened... Kyle "Blow me"
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Kyle Van Tassel (Kyle)
Moderator Username: Kyle
Post Number: 223 Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Monday, April 14, 2003 - 08:12 am: |
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Perhaps that was a little harsh... So Adam , tells us how many road miles you have driven on Interco tires and what were your findings after ? You too RJ and company.... Kyle "Blow me"
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Rob Davison (Nosivad_bor)
Senior Member Username: Nosivad_bor
Post Number: 230 Registered: 02-2003
| Posted on Monday, April 14, 2003 - 09:59 am: |
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i am amused. i agree steve, the tires do not make joe's series rover suck, after all he is breaking new ground and doing something that has never ever been done before.
quote:"kyle... you posses a lot of technical knowledge about discoveries, but that does not give you a free pass to be an asshole."
my interpertation of this is on the contrary, part of the reason kyle and others started this site was so that kyle had the freedom to be an asshole. he has set a precedence of being an asshole for years and quite frankly if he quit i'd loose some respect for him. -rob p.s joe you nearly quoted bob dylan from: Stuck inside of Mobile With the Memphis blues again. "Your debutante just knows what you need But I know what you want."
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Leslie N. Bright (Leslie)
Senior Member Username: Leslie
Post Number: 2034 Registered: 02-2002
| Posted on Monday, April 14, 2003 - 10:19 am: |
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We're a bunch of trolls, Adam/Joe? lol... I'm not lookin' elsewhere for trouble, I'm just here at home on this board.... And the wings on that Series look nasty, IMHO.... It's one thing to do something that improves it while maintaining the character of a Series, but clipping up the wings THAT MUCH sure isn't what I'd do to mine. Hey, it's your truck, do what you want to with it, but I'm not gonna follow suit. IMHO, FWIW, yada yada yada..... -L PS: Ho, I'll forgive you for the "Dunlops suck" comment....
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Blue (Blue)
New Member Username: Blue
Post Number: 2 Registered: 04-2003
| Posted on Monday, April 14, 2003 - 12:28 pm: |
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RJ & others complaining about bullshit on the internet, then starting up with playground insults is pretty typical. Kyle, you "don't have the right..." LOL And what's wrong with joe Redneckroverboy? He says what he is, and he is what he says. |
   
Roland Kutasi (Disco1)
Member Username: Disco1
Post Number: 54 Registered: 10-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, April 15, 2003 - 07:33 am: |
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I just love this site!!!!!!!! Sitting here in OZ and reading all this crap is breaking me up! |
   
Kirk Thibault (Kirkt)
Member Username: Kirkt
Post Number: 54 Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, April 15, 2003 - 10:02 am: |
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And how many of us here actually run Interco Trxus tires? Raise your hands so we can see them - not many from the actual responses relating personal experience. I drive 65+ road miles per day on trxus 265-75R16's (Disco2). I wheel on them in various oncditions. I'm not an "extreme" rock crawling monster articulation wheeler, but do various types of trails, etc. The tires are good under a wide variety of conditions, including on the road. I have yet to encounter a road situation where I felt in danger of losing control because of loss of the "contact patch". As with anything in which we have choices, one weighs the various factors included in the decision of eventually fitting tires and comes to a conclusion about what works best for the majority of the situations encountered. Are they a pain to keep in balance? Sort of, but most larger tires are. Do they wear faster than average? Maybe, the tread blocks are large and the compound is soft. However, for someone who is looking for a MT tire that is fairly well behaved on the road, it is not a bad choice, especially for the money. If you do more "extreme" wheeling, you probably want to get a dedicated set of rims/beadlocks and tires. If you do more road driving than wheeling, maybe you want to go with a more road or AT oriented tire. But if you do a mix of these, you want to try to find a tire that performs well in most of the conditions you encounter. As with most of these "which is the best" discussions, it comes down to personal preference, brand allegiance and the amount of money you may have to spend. There is no one correct choice and, would you believe it, trying the product actually gives one experience that may be helpful to others looking for some additional information. But even that information is subjective in the end and ultimately the purchaser makes a decision based on any number of reasons that may have nothing to do with what we collectively think is the most important. There are a lot of tires out there, try a set - if you don't like them, learn from the experience, and try another until you find what works best for you. While sharing personal experience has its merits with respect to product performance, busting on someone's ponytail has little to do with tire performance, unless you can fashion snow chains from it. Have fun! [Cue the theme song from Different Strokes here] kirk |