| Author | Message | ||
     Christophe Gauthier (Christophe) New Member Username: Christophe Post Number: 2 Registered: 03-2003 |
Hi Guys, Living in a country where sand is my common game, I wish to install a CDL on my Disco II - 2001 (it is pre-equipped, I checked on transfer GB). I read the tech discussions about some installations. But which one would u recommend ? Has anyone enough feedback now on this topic ? Thx Christophe | ||
| Brian Friend (Brianfriend) Senior Member Username: Brianfriend Post Number: 671 Registered: 09-2002 |
Christopher, lots of people here have installed cdl. there are all kinds of options including electric, shift type and vice grip types. You may be in the MY that does not have the ready to go t-case though, but I am sure it can be done. Check with Greg Davis...I think his is a 01. | ||
| Paul D. Morgan (V22guy) Senior Member Username: V22guy Post Number: 1434 Registered: 02-2002 |
Chris, IMHO, I recommend a mechanical link vs. an electric solenoid. Keep it simple. Paul '00 Pig | ||
| Christophe Gauthier (Christophe) New Member Username: Christophe Post Number: 3 Registered: 03-2003 |
Ah ? Interesting. My first idea was the solenoid, but that is the reason why I posted this msge, "to get feed-back from enthusiasts who experimented". I will wait for sometime, see the different opinions and make my choice. Thxalot | ||
| Rans (Rans) Senior Member Username: Rans Post Number: 502 Registered: 08-2002 |
Why do you make that recomendation Paul? Just curious? Is the solenoid option unreliable? I know it's more expensive. | ||
| Paul D. Morgan (V22guy) Senior Member Username: V22guy Post Number: 1436 Registered: 02-2002 |
Randy, I think that a water crossing or some other environmental debris / substance (Sand) could affect the solenoid and limit its long term reliablity. The solenoid installation is more difficult, but it does look great when complete. I would hate to have to remove the rivets below the center console again in order to fix. There are some folks on this BBS that have great looking systems installed that look great, but I do not know how often they are used and what envrionments they are used in. The mechanical linkage that is external to the vehicle (the Chris U kit) is a no-brainer to install / remove or bend back into place out in the field. Again this is just my opinion. I wonder how the H2 locks or unlocks? What happens if that system breaks down in the middle of nowhere. If a D2 mechanical system breaks, you still have the 10MM standby in the glove box. Yes, that also means that you can leave some flesh on the exhaust when done....right Greg? Paul '00 Pig | ||
| Greg (Gparrish) Senior Member Username: Gparrish Post Number: 1211 Registered: 04-2002 |
Yes, Paul, thats true, however I left some of my rain coat on my own exhaust and left some flesh on your exhaust.  My suggestion is to keep a long sleeve tee shirt or shoulder length leather glove in the tool kit with your 10mm spanner, if you go that route. My suggestion / vote would also be with the Chris Urqueta kit / approach. That's what I would do if I were to install a CDL kit on my truck. | ||
| Paul D. Morgan (V22guy) Senior Member Username: V22guy Post Number: 1439 Registered: 02-2002 |
Good Point Greg, If I were ever to install a CDL kit on the Pig, I too would go with Chris's Kit. But for know, ETC is all I need.  | ||
| Greg Davis (Gregdavis) Senior Member Username: Gregdavis Post Number: 807 Registered: 08-2002 |
Guys, don't forget about my very basic method. It's in the Tech section, is mechanical, and can be engaged "on the fly" if need be. Very straight forward and VERY reliable. | ||
| Greg (Gparrish) Senior Member Username: Gparrish Post Number: 1213 Registered: 04-2002 |
It's a very good method Greg, and I like it, however it does leave a hole in the console if ever removed. In my case, and it sounds like in Paul's also, I don't want to install anything until my warranty expires. | ||
| Paul D. Morgan (V22guy) Senior Member Username: V22guy Post Number: 1441 Registered: 02-2002 |
All you need is ETC Hopefully Chris Von C doesn't see this....... | ||
| Greg (Gparrish) Senior Member Username: Gparrish Post Number: 1214 Registered: 04-2002 |
Why? Doesn't CVC like ETC? ;) | ||
| Jason Bard (Jbard) Member Username: Jbard Post Number: 128 Registered: 10-2002 |
Where do I find more info on the Chris Urqueta kit? | ||
| Rans (Rans) Senior Member Username: Rans Post Number: 504 Registered: 08-2002 |
So Greg P, those holes in your dash for the GPS are okay, but none in the console thank-you-very-much? How about the ones in the overhead from the last GPS mount? hehehe | ||
| Paul D. Morgan (V22guy) Senior Member Username: V22guy Post Number: 1442 Registered: 02-2002 |
Something Funny that happened on the AOA trip. http://www.discoweb.org/pauldmorgan/rear%20view.jpg Saturday Morning we were climbing up this ridge and I made a comment to CVC, "Man this ETC is all I need in this stuff." About 10 seconds later the Pig stopped all forward movement. Then Chris says to me, "Paul you were saying?" Jason, I have linked on my home computer. I'll try to send it out later. | ||
| Michael Noe (Noee) Senior Member Username: Noee Post Number: 571 Registered: 03-2002 |
GP, I agree about the warranty issue. Take it from me firsthand, if you're in factory warranty, don't install the CDL or if you do, hide it or remove it before going in. LRNA will blame it for everything engine/drivetrain related. As far as the hole is concerned, it's easily covered/plugged and you can get a new black rubber console mat if you really want. | ||
| Christophe Gauthier (Christophe) New Member Username: Christophe Post Number: 4 Registered: 03-2003 |
Well, I did not think this subject would bring so enthusiast answers. Thx for all your contributions till now. I will investigate this Chris U kit, since I also do not want to leave a hole near the gear lever. Anyway, your drawings are great greg ! I confirm also that I left some skin on one of my friends exhaust when trying to lock the diff with the 10MM. He had the front diff broken and we were 10 kms away from the first road in the desert dunes. But he did it and manage to drive in 2WD ! Good perf ! | ||
| David W (Davesdisco2) New Member Username: Davesdisco2 Post Number: 5 Registered: 02-2003 |
I just got a kit from chris, his link is http://chrisurquieta.com/dii_cdl_handle.htm | ||
| John Friederich (Jfriedlvcmcom) New Member Username: Jfriedlvcmcom Post Number: 20 Registered: 02-2003 |
I went the AMV route, and have been happy I did. AMV is an Aussie outfit whose kit is similar to selenoid, but uses a motor with a mag limit switch. It is on a beautifully machined aluminum plate which bolts to the top of the T-case, well out of harms way. I've been through watter crossings where I know its been submerged, and never a problem. The supplied switch is totally factory looking, and the convenience is terrific for quick changes in and out. http://www.amv.com.au/accessories.htm It is one to consider IMHO... John F | ||
| Christophe Gauthier (Christophe) New Member Username: Christophe Post Number: 5 Registered: 03-2003 |
Well, I discovered 2 new kits, thanks to you guys. Now I have too many to make my choice :-) !!! No, serious, I printed all related pages and I am now starting the study. Thx to all | ||
| Rans (Rans) Senior Member Username: Rans Post Number: 509 Registered: 08-2002 |
I like the look of that option John. May I ask what they cost? Theres no indication on the webpage that I can see. Did you find it as easy to install as they indicated? | ||
| Greg (Gparrish) Senior Member Username: Gparrish Post Number: 1220 Registered: 04-2002 |
Last I heard Randy it was around $285.00 US Dollars. Don't remember if that included shipping from Aus. though. | ||
| John Friederich (Jfriedlvcmcom) New Member Username: Jfriedlvcmcom Post Number: 21 Registered: 02-2003 |
Rans - Price for the AMV? Not cheap, $250 USD. Was it easy? Uh, not the way I did it... If you have access to a lift, it would be easy. But working on the ground under the Disco it is pretty much feeling your way around. The wiring is trivial, no time a all. With access to a lift, I'd say 4 hours start to finish just following directions. Without a lift, double that... I had a problem with the harness (they call it a loom) - I called them about it, and they 2-day aired a new one to me - I wonder what that cost! They were so helpful and polite it was sickening. The service manager at the local dealer thought it was about the coolest thing he had seen - no warranty issues here as he heavily supports the local club, and has installed D1 linkages for other folks in the club with D2's with CDL nuts. -John F | ||
| Jack Parker (Jack) Member Username: Jack Post Number: 135 Registered: 03-2002 |
John, Did you install everything from under the vehicle? Did you have to access anything from inside (remove shifter, console, etc.) with this kit? Thanks, Jack ps - Sounds like you have a good dealership there. | ||
| Will Bobbitt (Rkores) Senior Member Username: Rkores Post Number: 259 Registered: 09-2002 |
I like the seliniod because it looks so clean, but I like the mechanical linkages better because I can know for sure that it has fully ingaged or disingaged. Will | ||
| Michael Noe (Noee) Senior Member Username: Noee Post Number: 576 Registered: 03-2002 |
Guys, it's not the dealer that makes the warranty calls, it's LRNA. The dealer can and will go to bat for you, some better than others, but you can bet your ass that for big ticket items, LRNA will be there driving your truck and checking it out. The cool thing about the stealth option is that if the dealer never tells LRNA about it and it's not noted in the database, if anything DOES happen, you'll probably be cool. | ||
| John Friederich (Jfriedlvcmcom) New Member Username: Jfriedlvcmcom Post Number: 22 Registered: 02-2003 |
Jack - <<<Did you install everything from under the vehicle? Did you have to access anything from inside (remove shifter, console, etc.) with this kit?>>> The only thing you do from inside is wiring stuff. jsf | ||
| Jack Parker (Jack) Member Username: Jack Post Number: 136 Registered: 03-2002 |
Thanks for the info. | ||
| Keith McFatridge (Mcfatty) New Member Username: Mcfatty Post Number: 1 Registered: 02-2003 |
I also have the AMV CDL kit. I've been running it for over year now--no problems. Been through water, sand, snow, nothing seems to bother it. Install was fairly easy. And yes, it is stealthy. |
