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Damien Choi (Gooddude44)
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Posted on Friday, April 18, 2003 - 07:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I'm thinking about getting a roof rack for my disco '03, and was debating between OEM adventure rack vs. Hanibal roof rack. Anyone have recommendations? Pros and Cons of each type and the cost differences? Thanks!

Damien
 

Garrett (Rover7592)
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Posted on Friday, April 18, 2003 - 11:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Damien,
Do you go on a lot of trips where it would become necessary to sleep on top of your vehicle? If so i'd go with the hannibal, otherwise i would rather go with the LR adventure rack, it is cheaper, looks just as good, and should hold nearly the same amount of supplies.
 

Blake Luse (Muddyrover)
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Posted on Saturday, April 19, 2003 - 01:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Same here if I had the money though the hanibal would be the way to go because i could pinch a tent on my truck. If you have the money go with the hannibal. I don't so i went with the surco, but definately don't go with the surco, lol. LOL>

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joshua Frances (Joshua)
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Posted on Saturday, April 19, 2003 - 09:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I think you should get the plumbers rack.

rite Ho?

You know, the one with teh 12 foot PVC pipe strapped to the side to carry your copper?

lol
 

Damien Choi (Gooddude44)
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Posted on Saturday, April 19, 2003 - 10:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Any idea how much Hannibal costs? LR adventure rack costs anywhere between $1,100 to $1,300 new and not much cheaper for used ones... Just trying to figure out what the best deal is. I don't have money to burn, but I'm willing to save up for a better system.
 

Alyssa Brown (Alyssa)
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Posted on Saturday, April 19, 2003 - 10:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Does the hannibal rack work with the sunroofs? Do you have sunroofs, Damien? The adventure rack does.
I always make sure everyone knows that:
1. They make a TON of noise
2. They limit access to parking garages
3. When removed, they leave very visible damage to the drip rails.
4. You won't be able to go through a car wash.
5. AND THEY MAKE A TON OF NOISE!
IF you didn't know about all of these niggling little facts of life with a roof rack, then I recommend getting the extended roof rails and cross bars. They provide a very nice streamlined factory look, and don't cause any of the problems above.
Of course, if you knew all of these roof rack facts of life, and since you are on Dweb, you are probably comfortable with mods that make daily driving occasionally more inconvenient, go for it. They look great. I've used my adventure rack so many times & I just love it. I love how it contours my roof line, too. I don't know anything about the hannibal rack, so hopefully someone can chime in there.
 

Ho Chung (Thediscoho)
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Posted on Saturday, April 19, 2003 - 11:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

damien, my vote goes to the LRNA adventure rack:

http://www.expeditionexchange.com/blackrock/DSC004986.jpg
http://www.expeditionexchange.com/blackrock/DSC005026.jpg
http://www.expeditionexchange.com/dusy/DSC009036.jpg
http://www.discoweb.org/truckhavenh2/DSC03885.jpg
http://www.discoweb.org/truckhavenh2/DSC03920.jpg
http://www.expeditionexchange.com/rubicon/DSC007046.jpg
http://www.discoweb.org/wildwest/hm/km1.jpg





---------- Ho Chung
 

Nadim Samara (Discodino)
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Posted on Saturday, April 19, 2003 - 11:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Ho, that is the one I want for my '98 (desert truck). Anyone know the part number for that as my parts catalogue does not state (the Disco has no sun roofs, but has the stock "rack" system - with the 3 bars under the rear seats...)

Thanks a budle
 

Nadim Samara (Discodino)
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Posted on Saturday, April 19, 2003 - 11:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

thats "bundle"
 

Damien Choi (Gooddude44)
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Posted on Saturday, April 19, 2003 - 12:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Alyssa, I have sunroofs. I may not be able to use the rear sunroof with the Hannibal. I was told that having a roof rack is like having a sail on top of my truck... I guess it's something that I can deal with. I am really not into washing my cars. I have BMW 328Ci (2000) and I think I washed it like 10 times total... Much less worried about washing my LR. Also, I live in Newark, DE. 30 miles south of Philly. Do you know any good places to go wheeling close by?

Ho, why do you like LR adventure rack better? Any particular reason? or just a preference?

Anyone out there with Hannibal roof rack? How much did it cost and how do you like it?

Thanks,
Damien
 

Alyssa Brown (Alyssa)
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Posted on Saturday, April 19, 2003 - 12:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

And you didn't buy your truck from me??? Aagh. What an insult. :-)
Join R.O.V.E.R.S., out of Avondale, PA.
Website at http://www.roversclub.com/
Hey, I don't wash my car either... just making sure.
 

Ian Kreidich (Ian95rrc)
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Posted on Saturday, April 19, 2003 - 01:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I have a hannibal rack for my classic. Cost me $1200 including shipping from Ozzies offroad. I would think it would be about the same for a D2. It works great and unlike the Adventure rack it spreads the weight over the length of the gutter. It also won't rust. Personally I don't think it has added too much noise. I don't even hear it until I get over 50mph. The Adventure rack probably looks better for the disco though. Just my $.03
 

Damien Choi (Gooddude44)
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Posted on Saturday, April 19, 2003 - 02:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Alyssa, purchase of my Disco was on a spur of the moment thing. It was right after the 25 inches of snow in Feb 03. Was lucky to get to Wilmington in my little sports coupe, and I didn't have to pay taxes...

I talked to British Exchange and 4X4??? and Hannibal rack runs around $1300 to $1400. And the tents cost as much as the roof rack. In order to use the roof tent, I need a bull bar. Those three things will total $4K!!! Damn, these things are expensive. I guess I'll be eating Ramen noodles and Canned Tuna for the next 6 months, if I want to get these things.
 

Brad Russell (Bradnc)
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Posted on Saturday, April 19, 2003 - 03:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I just made my own that looks almost just like the Adventure rack, only cost $50, and is much stronger. Here's some pics
1
 

Paul T Hook (Rovernut)
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Posted on Saturday, April 19, 2003 - 09:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Damien,
BE and 4x4 don't know what they are talking about. I've had a Hannibal tent on an Adventure rack for about a year now and while I do have a bull bar, I exit the Hannibal out the back. You do NOT have to have a bull bar to use it. The setup looks cool with it turned over the bonnet, but opening the tent out the back also gives you an automatic awning over the rear door area when it is open. Just my experience and you might check with Panagae Expeditions, Nathan uses everything he sells and is very reasonable on prices.
 

david summers (Texmoto)
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Posted on Saturday, April 19, 2003 - 11:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Brad,
If you're not BSing, repost your roof rack pic. I would like to see it.
 

Chris Browne (Chris_browne)
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Posted on Sunday, April 20, 2003 - 07:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

http://www.thatchedroofgarage.com/safety_devices_products.htm

Depends what you want to use it for. I've "only" got the thule crossbars and have yet to wish I had more of a rack.
 

charles pastrano (Charles)
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Posted on Sunday, April 20, 2003 - 08:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

RACKS
 

charles pastrano (Charles)
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RACK
 

charles pastrano (Charles)
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I have loaded the ARB with well over 600lbs. of gear plus me on top. Very little noise. Can be adjusted to open both sunroofs. It takes forever to get one. Expect over ten weeks if you cant find one in the U.S. Cost is about $800 to $850 shipped.
 

Damien Choi (Gooddude44)
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Posted on Sunday, April 20, 2003 - 08:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Charles, what kind of roof rack is that? And how much did it cost you?

Paul, I would like to see some pics of your rig's set-up. I wasn't aware that you could use the Hannibal tent with the LR Adventure Rack. Did you have to make any modifications on thr rack? How high does the tent sit up, when it's folded?
 

Tom V (Cozmo)
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Posted on Sunday, April 20, 2003 - 09:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I hear alot about the Hannibal rack, which I do like, looks good and you can pitch a tent on it. But I really want a Patriot rack, you can pitch a tent on it also. Anyone have any experience with it?
 

David (Dave)
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Posted on Sunday, April 20, 2003 - 09:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Paul,

I too heard (which I'm finding out may be incorrect) that you can't install the Hannibal tent to work with the LR Adventure rack (Disco I). Did you have to make any modifications to either the rack or the tent for installation? Which model tent did you order? Would also love to see pics...thanks for any info!
 

charles pastrano (Charles)
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Posted on Sunday, April 20, 2003 - 10:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

ARB
 

Nathan Hindman (Nathanh)
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Posted on Sunday, April 20, 2003 - 12:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Just to clear up a bit of confusion with regards to the roof top tents: First off, the Hannibal tents don't have to go on a Hannibal rack. They can be mounted on just about any flat surface that can take the weight.

The main advantage of the Hannibal rack is that has an open front design so that you can run the tent over the bonnet and onto the bull bar (in addition to the other advantages of alum vs. steel and rain gutter runners to distribute weight).

As far as the tent goes, it can be opened up over the front, side, back, whatever. All you need is the appropriate length ladder for what ever direction you decide to open the tent.

Attached are a couple of pics of the Hannibal tent on non-Hannibal racks. The first is on a Safety Devices "expedition" rack, essentially a heavy duty version of the LR Adventure rack, and the second is on a LR Adventure rack.

Thanks,
Nathan Hindman
http://www.PangaeaExpeditions.com
 

Nathan Hindman (Nathanh)
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On an Adventure Rack...

Thanks,
Nathan Hindman
http://www.PangaeaExpeditions.com

 

Jack Quinlan (Jsq)
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Posted on Sunday, April 20, 2003 - 01:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

light mounts are more convenient on SD if that's a priority for you.

you live near phila and don't wash your car?
that's smart.
 

Brad Russell (Bradnc)
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i'd have to put in a vote for building your own rack. I paid $50 in parts for this and I think it came out quite well. Here's a few pics
/image{rack}
 

Brad Russell (Bradnc)
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roof rack
 

Brad Russell (Bradnc)
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I'd have to put in a vote for making your own rack. I paid $50 in parts and this I think mine came out quite well. Here's a few pics
roof rack
 

Brad Russell (Bradnc)
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working on it...
another
 

Brad Russell (Bradnc)
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me and my dad painting
work
 

Brad Russell (Bradnc)
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one more...
last
 

Damien Choi (Gooddude44)
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Posted on Sunday, April 20, 2003 - 08:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Brad, your roof rack looks awsome! But I don't have the tools to make something like that. What kind of tools did you use to make that? I assume you need a welder...
 

Paul T Hook (Rovernut)
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Damien,
No pics at the moment, but will try to get some soon. I had no mods to the Adventure rack, just used bolts and conduit clips to attach the tent. Had it on the road for 6 months straight with no probs. It sits up on the back and side rails. Good luck with your decision.
 

Brad Russell (Bradnc)
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I used 1" EMT Conduit piping and reinforced all joints with 3/4" EMT Conduit Piping welded in. Other than that I just bent some dowel steel stock to make the hooks and cut ball-bearing steel plates with a plasma cutter to make the light brackets. I used a manual pipe bender to bend all the bars and welded them all together with a 220 volt welder. I used Seam Sealer to seal some small holes in the joints to keep water out and Scotch Bright to prep it for painting. Then I coated it with Self-Etching Primer and then Painted it with nothing more than good old Satin finish Krylon. If people really want me to I could write something up for the tech section about how to do it, but it's pretty straight forward. Not bad for a smart-ass 18 year old, eh? I'll have to say the guys at the shop (I work at an auto body shop) were a tremendous help, but I did it all on my own.
 

David (Dave)
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Posted on Monday, April 21, 2003 - 12:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Hi Nathan,

Thanks for the pics of the Hannibal tent on a LR adventure rack. I have the low profile (the one that came with the LR Disco XD) LR Adventure rack on my 97 Disco I. Is there any special modifications I need to make to the adventure rack or Hannibal tent to mount the tent to this rack? It's a combination I've wanted to work out. Thanks again for any info you can provide.

 

Nathan Hindman (Nathanh)
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Dsvid,

It's a pretty simple process to attach a Hannibal tent to an Adventure rack. There are three or four different ways to go about it, but the simplest method involves mounting a 1.4 meter tent to the railing of the rack. E-mail me offline and I can send you a few pics and instructions...

Thanks,
Nathan
http://www.Pangaea-Expeditions.com
 

Rob Davison (Nosivad_bor)
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Posted on Monday, April 21, 2003 - 09:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

brad what's the weight on that rack? is it heavy?

how did you do the feet?

thanks,
rob davison
 

George Clayton (Offcamber)
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Posted on Monday, April 21, 2003 - 01:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Sheesh, Brad......

Don't know how long it took you to put that all together, but I'll give ya $300 to do one for me (LOL)!! Seriously, you could get quite a side business going if you could stamp them out...

Nice work! How much weight will it support?

Looks really clean, and how can you beat it at $50!?!
 

Brad Russell (Bradnc)
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Rob,
it weighs under 100 pounds. It came out much lighter than expected. I was able to get ahold of some of the LR mounting brackets for the outside and cut custom brackets for the drip rails from some steel stock we had lying around.

George,
It took me about 40 hours of doing it and about 15 of planning. I'm sure I could stamp one out in a good 30 hours now. It would probably be worth it for about $450-500 or 700 if I had to buy the mounting brackets from LR for the racks. As for how much weight it will support...I weigh 230, my dad 190, and Jason 160 and all three of us were on it at the same time bouncing up and down with almost no flex. This was on the floor, of course. The drip rails would by far be the weakest point of the whole system. The light brackets are so strong that I walked on them as well...putting all 230 pounds on each bracket at one time by standing on one foot. I had Jason, a master welder, helping me out.

It has 4 light brackets up front, 2 in the rear, and a little tie-down in each corner. I'm sure mine is much stronger than LRs...just look at how all their pipes are connected. Mine were custom cut so the pipe matches perfectly with the adjoining pipe. I'm extremely pleased with the way it came out. Any more questions just let me know.
 

Nadim Samara (Discodino)
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Posted on Tuesday, April 22, 2003 - 04:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

So what is the LR Part number for the Adventure rack for the D1?
 

Glenn Guinto (Glenn)
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Nadim,

The Adventure Rack is made by Safety Devices for LR back from the Camel Trophy days. The Adventure Rack is the 'civilized' version of the one they used in the CT events which is the Highlander Rack. The North American dealer for such racks is David Gage from Thatched Roof Garagae. Since you're from the middle east, you can probably try searching Google for the middle eastern distributor. I think David lists the part numbers in his website. Good luck!

Glenn
 

Nick M (Nick5o)
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Brad,

Any chance you would publish the plan for this? I want a roof rack but refuse to part with $1000+ ? It sounds like I can get all or most of the parts at one of the home improvement stores and I know a guy with a welder... Looks Great!
 

ken knebusch (Charlotterover)
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It does look great Brad. I'll have to check it out in person some day!

Ken
 

Alan Yim (Alan)
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Hi guys,

For those of you who have the Hannibal or LR racks, have you noticed much of a drop in fuel mileage with the racks on? I've also heard that adding lights cuts down on wind noise. Is that true?
 

Rob Davison (Nosivad_bor)
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adding a plywood floor on my adventure rack cut down on noise 50% for me.

lights did nothing.

rd
 

joshua Frances (Joshua)
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Alan, I think you are getting confused.

we tell the wife that adding 4 HID Hella 4K's will cut down the rack noice

:-)
 

Alan Yim (Alan)
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LOL :-) Ok, I'll keep that in mind.
 

Brad Russell (Bradnc)
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I hear everyone talking about how loud the racks are, but I can't even hear mine, and that's surprising to me. Anyone know why this would be so? I'd be glad to put up the plans for the rack if I can find the notebook with all the sketches and figures in it. My rack is by no means perfect...the rear part where it goes up to go over the roof is a little off, but nothing major.

As far as having a buddy with a welder, beware. If he has a welder at his house that runs off of 110 volts then it won't be suitable. Those little things can only weld thin sheet metal. You need a 220 volt welder and someone that is really good at using it.

As for gas milage, I keep track of mine and haven't noticed any difference yet, but this is only my 2nd tank of gas with it on so I need to run a few more tanks before I can come to any conclusions.
 

Leo (Leo_hallak)
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There are some pretty hot 120v Welders I use mine on some pretty thick stuff... the trick is just stick close to the outlet. an extension cord just wont do the trick with voltage drop... But I am talking wire welder not stick.

But yeah a 220V welder will run a lot hotter and has a lot better better duty cycle.

With a good 120 wire unit I wouldnt be afaid to make a roof rack. I have welded some nice 6 gauge pieces and never had a problem, welded a 3/8 inch thick frame for my phase converter and its been bolted to a wall for about 2 years without a problem.

-Leo

btw: mine is a Clarke wire welder and i use .030" Flux Core.
 

Rob Davison (Nosivad_bor)
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brad,

take the rack off and you'll then hear the difference, if you don't then your hearing is bad or the radio is up really loud.

and how thick is this pipe? seems like thin wall pipe would be no problem for making a rack and a 110v cheap ass weld could handle .06 wall

rd
 

Andy Thoma (Andythoma)
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I run a Kaymar Tradesman rack, the cheaper cousin of the ARB. It's the full length of my d1 roof and is flat. I prefered that because loading sheet rock on that bent lr adventure rack would have been a bitch. Mine cost like $625 but I had to wait for 2 months to get it. If you like that adventure rack check out; http://www.roverconnection.com/Disco%20Acc%20Pix/discoadvrack.htm he has a good price. Or check out;
http://www.roverconnection.com/Disco%20Acc%20Pix/discoexprack.htm

I added a fairing, basically a modified yakima and it cut down my wind noise. Without it I didn't notice much noise when the rack was empty, except for the wicked cross winds we get from the mountains here in Utah. Put stuff on the rack and it makes lots of noise, I put on that fairing and noise went down. Lights didn't really change anything. I get 15 mpg with a rack and 4 lights on the highway. If I load it for trips I put everything from the back to front and still get about the same mileage. I use a Kaymar load bag which is heavy duty nylon pack cloth and only sticks up about 6". Throw my mtn bikes up there standing and my mileage drops to about 12 mpg highway. Just load the rack as flat as possible. Use pelican cases if you can, especially if you are in areas with lots of trees and brush, they would cut my bag open. (good thing in UT I don't really have to worry about that. I know the rack is rated for like 600lbs but most trips I only put camping, climbing or biking gear up there. If I load home building supplies I balance the load, and never really drive that far to home.

Brad- Nice job on the rack build, you really ought to put the plans on the tech section, it looks like you should have the title of "nicest rack on Dweb" ... :-)
 

Rick D (Fatmcnasty)
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Posted on Wednesday, April 23, 2003 - 06:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Brad- Nice rack!! Please post plans!!!
Heck Id even offer to convert them to autocad for you and the other users.
 

George Clayton (Offcamber)
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Do it!.....Do it!......

Got a welder laying around I'm Itching to use.....well, ok....a FRIEND has one I'm itching to use.....LOL!!
 

Brad Russell (Bradnc)
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OK, I'll see what I can pull up and will post 'em...or do a write-up for the tech section. Rick, if I send you the plans would you convert them to Autocad for the tech section?

Is it ok if I can't find my pics from the beginning?
 

Rick D (Fatmcnasty)
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Posted on Wednesday, April 23, 2003 - 11:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Brad.. Yes I can/will be glad to. If you want I can make both a 3D model and a 2D blueprint/cut-bend sheet?
 

RJ Clayton (Tozovr)
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Posted on Thursday, April 24, 2003 - 12:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Who was the company building the LRNA Adventure rack copies? Out of the Northwest I think...
 

Corey (Discobro)
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Posted on Thursday, April 24, 2003 - 01:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Nice RACK Brad!! :-)

If you need help converting files to Acrobat PDF let me know. I've got a few years knowledge with Acrobat and Distiller and could make a nice looking PDF for ya that would be low file size and cross platform. Maybe a few of the AutoCAD pics and layout. Just let me know - never seen a better made rack. Most of em are manufactured and don't have the "hand-made engineering".

BTW - what was the total cost of parts and supplies? Where did you get the EMT Conduit piping?
 

George Clayton (Offcamber)
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Posted on Thursday, April 24, 2003 - 06:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

C'mon, guys....I'm off to look at EMT Conduit!

Seriously, tho, this could turn out to be one of the better DIY solutions I've come across.....
 

Brad Russell (Bradnc)
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Posted on Thursday, April 24, 2003 - 08:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Well, The 1" EMT Conduit piping comes from your local hardware store. I choose Home Depot. All the pipe was about $44 if I remember correctly. I reinforced all the joints with 3/4" on the inside and that pipe cost maybe $8. That's really it...about a $50 roof rack. I used scrap metal we had lying around the shop for the other stuff. I'm working on those plans. I am still looking for my original drawings. I'm contemplating building a few for sale. What would a reasonable selling price be?
 

M. K. Watson (Lrover94)
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Posted on Thursday, April 24, 2003 - 08:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

cost plus what you think your time is, that is an really nice unit, put my name on the list to buy one when you have one ready.
mike w
 

George Clayton (Offcamber)
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Posted on Tuesday, April 29, 2003 - 10:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

EMT's all sourced, and priced.....just need the design.....LOL


..........
 

Greg Tearne (Gooddoggomez)
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Posted on Tuesday, April 29, 2003 - 11:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Brad

Crikey!!!! She's a beauty!!!

Please inform Dweb if you make the plans available.

The LR Adventure/Safety Devices Highlander roof rack are unavailable in Australia and the guys at Premier Auto (LR Agents here) have no intention of importing any as a geniune part (like LRNA currently do).

Something like this would be fantastic for many a rover owner down here.

Think of it as doing your bit for international relations and free trade!!!

cheers mate

Hope it all goes well

gtt
 

Leslie N. Bright (Leslie)
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Posted on Tuesday, April 29, 2003 - 11:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Greg,

If you really want one, are willing to pay for the shipping, I'd think that TRG could send you one, even Down Under.....


-L
 

Rich Zellmer (Personalt)
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Posted on Wednesday, April 30, 2003 - 09:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

That rack is great... I would love to see some plans for that and build a few in my 'spare time.'

When you joined two tubes together did you taper any of the piping. I am not sure if I can explain this well but here goes..... Let say you have 2 pipes that you are welding together to form a T. Is it possible to taper the tube with the cut end so that when you weld it together and send it out you have a "flush" weld? On some racks that I have seen you cant see the welds really and I was wondering if this is how they do it...

That rack is great. I think it would be great discoweb project if someone could get those drawings into autocad. I also have acrobat distiller and could help make a pdf version if needed.
 

Greg Tearne (Gooddoggomez)
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Posted on Thursday, May 01, 2003 - 02:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Leslie

I have already looked at getting one direct from Safety Devices in the UK. I thought of trying to get one from the states, until I did the sums.

It would work out cheaper from the UK. The price is GBPounds 494 (AUD$1300/US$800), the price in US (from what you guys have said) US$1200 (AUD$1900).

Here's the killer - the sea freight from London to Sydney was going to be BGP650 (AUD$1700/US$1,000). So I was looking at $3,000 for a roof rack. My Mrs would have my bags packed and tired down to that rack faster than I could blink if I tried spending that much.

TJM have a split level rack but it is very crude and very rough around the edges compared to the SD rack .

Thats why I hope this project becomes public, I know a few fabricators that could knock this baby up with too much trouble, especially if there are diagrams to go with it.

Go Brad Go!!!
 

Brad Russell (Bradnc)
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Posted on Friday, May 02, 2003 - 08:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Hey,
Sorry I've been busy lately. I did hunt for the original plans, to no avail thusfar. However, I will take the measurement and draw out the plans and send them to someone to get put into Autocad.

Rich,
On the SD racks the ends are "crimped" so they are flat and are then welded on. I didn't like that and did what you said. I ground the ends down so a T intersection was a perfect fit and then welded that. I think that's the way to go.

The one fact I blatantly remember from making the rack is that the angle of the bends where the roofline goes up is 22.5 degrees for both angles (thus the parallel levels). I'll honestly take the rest of them soon...next time i'm up there...i promise.
 

Kinnie van Eeden (Yenza)
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Posted on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 02:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I use a Hannibal everyday. Look at www.yenzatours.com
 

Erik Geagan (Geagan)
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Posted on Monday, May 05, 2003 - 02:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Damien,

What do you want to use it for? I just took mine off the Disco and want to sell it. Shoot me an email.
 

Rob Davison (Nosivad_bor)
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Posted on Wednesday, May 07, 2003 - 06:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

you want a REAL rack?????? the Gourmet shit?

say no more:

Misadventure Rack
 

Blue (Blue)
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Posted on Wednesday, May 07, 2003 - 06:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

'bout time, bastards

that's a mighty fine rack, but who's beater Rangie is that?
 

Will Bobbitt (Rkores)
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Post Number: 284
Registered: 09-2002
Posted on Wednesday, May 07, 2003 - 07:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Rob,

That has to be the best looking RRC racks that I have ever seen. I preveously liked the Brownchurch's the most, but that one definately has them beat. If you don't mind me asking, how much did Kyle set you back on that one?

Will
 

Matt Milbrandt (95discovery)
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Posted on Wednesday, May 07, 2003 - 09:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Wow Rob you were right, that looks awesome.

Matt
 

Kyle Van Tassel (Kyle)
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Post Number: 273
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Thursday, May 08, 2003 - 08:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

It was a good week end for a few of you...... :-)

Kyle
"Blow me"
 

Robbie Donaldson (Robbie)
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Posted on Thursday, May 08, 2003 - 08:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

damn that is nice. i want the rover solutions entire package for my truck :-)
 

Kyle Van Tassel (Kyle)
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Post Number: 274
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Posted on Thursday, May 08, 2003 - 10:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

When should I expect you Robbie ? :-)

Kyle
"Blow me"
 

Robbie Donaldson (Robbie)
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Posted on Thursday, May 08, 2003 - 10:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

man, i just sent you an email :-)
 

Rob Davison (Nosivad_bor)
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Posted on Thursday, May 08, 2003 - 10:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Will, some things are "priceless"
 

gp (Garrett)
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Posted on Thursday, May 08, 2003 - 03:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

don't tell me there was male lovin' going on. ugh. that is nice though. i like the flat bars on the bottom.
beater RR? i thought that was an AMC Eagle. :-)
 

Rob Davison (Nosivad_bor)
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Posted on Thursday, May 08, 2003 - 03:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

YES, laugh all you want.. unlike the speedpromegamasterolex shit watch, there is only one of this rack:-)

badmotherfucker
 

gp (Garrett)
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Posted on Thursday, May 08, 2003 - 04:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

very true, but i bet not for long. although you should have kyle put serial #1 on it.
 

Brad Russell (Bradnc)
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Posted on Thursday, May 08, 2003 - 05:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Kyle,
You lay down some nice beads man. I'm still working on it but hopefully I'll get there. I just got a Series III yesterday so I'm sure there's plenty of shit to weld on it. I'll do the rack plans soon. I'm in the midst of AP/IB exams right now, but I'm almost out of the forest.
 

Greg Tearne (Gooddoggomez)
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Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2003 - 10:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Hey, bit of double barrelled question here.

Firstly, I've heard a few guys talk about how noisey the adventure racks are, yet the majority of you rate them very highly. Having only ever seen one on the G4 Disco standing still at the Sydney 4X4 Show I am completely ignorant on this issue. Are they generally noisey, and just how noisey is that? I've often got at least a pair of Thules on the roof with a couple of surfboards strapped down, and thats too noisey to have the sunroof wide open, but fine if its just raised at the back. Is this about the same level of noise.

Secondly, Brad, did find that you got much noise out of your design? I noticed you said that you didn't flatten the cross members at the weld. I was wondering whether this may cut out some whistling from the flat sections.

I'm only asking because I'm the kind of person that gets the sh#ts with too much extra noise. If you reckon its about the same as a set of Thules then I can easily put up with it for a rack that looks so cool.
 

my96disco (Trevorh)
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Post Number: 188
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Posted on Wednesday, May 14, 2003 - 01:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Greg,

Just rivet a checkerplate floor on the adventure rack and it becomes super quiet and way more useful. But this is just my opinion for what it is worth.

Trevor
 

Greg Tearne (Gooddoggomez)
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Posted on Thursday, May 15, 2003 - 01:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Thanks Trevor

Now I just need the plans....
 

Greg Tearne (Gooddoggomez)
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Posted on Thursday, May 15, 2003 - 01:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Just kidding Brad, exams first, plans can wait

gtt

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