| Author | Message | ||
     Tom (Fugedabowit) New Member Username: Fugedabowit Post Number: 3 Registered: 04-2003 |
So what mods will I need to make to a '90 RR in order to make it through the Rubicon? How much lift suspension and body? Whci OEM? What size tires? What brand? What type of protection and which manufacturer? What winch and bumper? What else do I need? thanks! | ||
| Nadim Samara (Discodino) Member Username: Discodino Post Number: 43 Registered: 02-2003 |
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| Leslie N. Bright (Leslie) Senior Member Username: Leslie Post Number: 2118 Registered: 02-2002 |
Experience. -L | ||
| Jaime (Blueboy) Senior Member Username: Blueboy Post Number: 633 Registered: 02-2002 |
while all of the above are good responses, you might want to check out the Discos that recently went on the Dusy Ershim and the Rubicon as seen on the Adventures section on EE - http://www.expeditionexchange.com/adv.htm Your SWB90RR and Disco1s are pretty similiar so this will give you a starting place. good luck and good spending. Jaime | ||
| A. Ali (Alia176) New Member Username: Alia176 Post Number: 39 Registered: 03-2003 |
min 33" MT tires, sliders, steering guard or beefy tie rod and drag link, rear quarter panel skid plate or just hack them off, gas tank skid plate, good front bumper with winch & recovery points, diff guards, lockers (selectable for the front preferably), 4.11 gearing if you have large tires. As far as vendors, money might make the decisions for you. Good luck. | ||
| Shane (Shane) Member Username: Shane Post Number: 44 Registered: 07-2002 |
it depends on: how much skill do you have? how much rock stacking do you do?(proper etiquette is to unstck when your through) how much body damage can you stand? what time of year do you plan to go? what are the other vehicles going with you set up like? | ||
| Tom (Fugedabowit) New Member Username: Fugedabowit Post Number: 4 Registered: 04-2003 |
Thanks Guys! My experience up to this point has been limited to IFS trucks with electronic passive locking differentials. Stacking rocks is something that I am used to, but would like to decrease this activity. Not too worried about body damage since this will be my trail rig. The plan is to go during the summer on a weekday. As far as companions, it might be just me or a fellow LR owner and prepped SWB G-wagon. | ||
| Shane (Shane) Member Username: Shane Post Number: 45 Registered: 07-2002 |
later in the year the trail is easier because of all the road building that goes on during the summer. minimum I would say is: 3" lift rock sliders diff guards front and rear tow points 32" or larger tires. Expect rear quarter panel damage unless you have protection back there like a custom bumper. A friend and another vehicle is good to have. If you go by yourself you better be good at self recovery. The trail is quite popular and it can be quite aggravating to be held up on the trail by ill prepared people/vehicles. If you are building your RR for a trail rig then I would try for closer to 4" of lift and 33-35" tires with a "trim" around the fenders for tire clearance...... | ||
| Land Rover Certified Used A**hole (Jason) Senior Member Username: Jason Post Number: 475 Registered: 04-2002 |
I've heard rumor from a reputable source that a dead stock RRC has driving the 'con. | ||
| Tom (Fugedabowit) New Member Username: Fugedabowit Post Number: 5 Registered: 04-2003 |
Wow...a 4 inch lift and 33 to 35 inch tires?! I need to do some research! =) Just out of curiousity, is there an DOT issues with driving a modified truck with 35 inch tires? I'm guessing no, but I don't know for sure. Any suggestions on where to go to learn more about my choices of lifts? The truck already has HD EMU springs and shocks. Which I think is good for 2 inches, but how do I get 2 more? a body lift? or a different suspension kit? | ||
| Steve Cooper (Scrover) Senior Member Username: Scrover Post Number: 301 Registered: 09-2002 |
Start here: http://www.expeditionexchange.com/spacers/ | ||
| Greg Hirst (Gregh) Member Username: Gregh Post Number: 151 Registered: 10-2002 |
I remember reading an article in the mid-nineties in the (now defunct) LROA Aluminum Workhorse about a guy running the Rubicon IN WINTER in a 2-door RRC with not too many mods. If I remember correctly he had help getting winched up Cadillac Hill from another loner in a Jeep! Not that I'd recommend it... | ||
| Peter Matusov (Pmatusov) Senior Member Username: Pmatusov Post Number: 658 Registered: 09-2002 |
what are you talking about? every jeep has to be driven through rubicon before it hits the market. they do get three attempts, though. but, if a stock liberty can make it, a stock rangie has to. peter | ||
| Tom (Fugedabowit) New Member Username: Fugedabowit Post Number: 7 Registered: 04-2003 |
Peter, is that really true? If so, why did they build a model called the Rubicon, which is supposedly made to finish the trail in stock form. Which by-the-way barely made it with plenty of body damage. | ||
| A. Ali (Alia176) New Member Username: Alia176 Post Number: 40 Registered: 03-2003 |
I know of two '89/'90 white RRC that made it through bone stock (or pretty near). About the only damage they incurred were their rear quarter panels. | ||
| -bob- (Xavetarx) Member Username: Xavetarx Post Number: 71 Registered: 01-2003 |
I'd like to see the pictures of that Ribicon jeep afterwards.. anyone have a site for it? | ||
| Greg Hirst (Gregh) Member Username: Gregh Post Number: 153 Registered: 10-2002 |
Peter- I think a stock rangie could make the Rubicon depending on the route. The guy I'm talking about did it IN WINTER by himself with only a little body damage. Autoweek mag took the new Jeep Rubicon in stock form through the Rubicon during last year's Jeep Jamboree. Very little damage. Again, depends on which cutoff you take to avoid tough sections. I would like to see the Liberty try it. I bet a CR-V could make it with enough support vehicles with winches and spare parts... LOL | ||
| A. Ali (Alia176) Member Username: Alia176 Post Number: 41 Registered: 03-2003 |
I went through the Rubi one year during the jeep jamboree. All the big wigs were driving new Jeeps and talk about a support staff: a chopper to bring in supplies at designated spots, mechanics, spotters, nice meals, etc.. | ||
| Peter Matusov (Pmatusov) Senior Member Username: Pmatusov Post Number: 663 Registered: 09-2002 |
Tom, supposedly, _any_ jeep model in existence has been driven through the 'Con before released to the public. Jeep did not build the "Rubicon" to drive this trail, they just capitalized on the name. I don't much believe this PR stuff; however, from what I hear from different wheelers lines up with what Greg just said - there are simpler and more difficult routes. On the simpler ones, I believe that a stock rangie would make it through. I know of a nearly stock Wagoneer that made it - and it has more of a rear overhang and longer wheelbase than the rover. peter | ||
| Blue (Blue) Member Username: Blue Post Number: 89 Registered: 04-2003 |
supposedly, _any_ jeep model in existence has been driven through the 'Con before released to the public. and if you forward this post onto 10 friends, your phone will ring within 10 minutes and you will receive good news. Try it! It works! | ||
| Peter Matusov (Pmatusov) Senior Member Username: Pmatusov Post Number: 665 Registered: 09-2002 |
LOL but... with all the jeep jambo mambos happening there, there's so much "trail paving" going on during the summer that it ain't as gnarly on Labor Day as it is on Memorial. Again, that's not coming from experience. My kids drove the disco about 4 miles into the Rubicon from the Lake Tahoe side (when it was 100% stock), and then my most significant other objected in rather harsh way (very similar wordage to what I heard on PSM - it just occured to me). peter |
