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ANTONIO DAVIS (Acacia1)
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Username: Acacia1

Post Number: 9
Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Tuesday, April 29, 2003 - 06:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Greetings,

98 Disco approaching 70,000 miles on the clock and the CHECK ENGINE light has just come on. It's not blinking or doing anything else, but it is on. Any suggestions? I have'nt had any problems so I don't know what to think. Can you help a brother out?
 

charles pastrano (Charles)
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Post Number: 187
Registered: 08-2002
Posted on Tuesday, April 29, 2003 - 07:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Probably a misfire. Have it checked.
 

Alan Yim (Alan)
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Post Number: 429
Registered: 09-2002
Posted on Tuesday, April 29, 2003 - 07:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Could be O2 sensor.
 

Carter Simcoe (Carter)
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Username: Carter

Post Number: 2344
Registered: 04-2002
Posted on Tuesday, April 29, 2003 - 07:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

It could be any number of things. Go to Autozone and get the code read.
 

Yaroslav (Andr6761)
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Post Number: 39
Registered: 07-2002
Posted on Tuesday, April 29, 2003 - 09:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

check engine doesnt mean much, if everything is running fine just have it reset.
 

Peter Matusov (Pmatusov)
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Username: Pmatusov

Post Number: 681
Registered: 09-2002
Posted on Tuesday, April 29, 2003 - 09:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Yaroslav,

check engine may mean that one of your cylinders is running lean, and you will end up with burned valves.

peter
 

Knut Nerheim (Knut)
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Post Number: 3
Registered: 04-2003
Posted on Tuesday, April 29, 2003 - 10:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

You can buy these on ebay for about $60.00, including shipping. Works great on my 97.
 

ANTONIO DAVIS (Acacia1)
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Post Number: 10
Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Tuesday, April 29, 2003 - 10:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Knut,

Any brand of code reader to look for?
 

Corey (Discobro)
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Username: Discobro

Post Number: 157
Registered: 12-2002
Posted on Wednesday, April 30, 2003 - 04:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Antonio,
There is a 90% chance that the check engine light is due to your milage. The emission reminders in D1s trigger automatically around 60-70k miles and will also trigger your check engine light. I have learned that this light is your friend. It may be annoying at first but the solid light is just a warning. If it's blinking then you actually have a problem.

Autozone will check your codes for free but by law cannot reset them. Most likely it's code P0420 and P0430 which are the emissions codes stating that the banks are "below threshold". It's the fancy words for saying get an emissions check. That is the main reason for the OBDII codes in the first place.

You can reset this reminder also. The relay is located in the kick panel behind the right passenger side facia panel. There is a neat little area where the relays slide onto little metal tabs. The emissions relay is the red one with the LR sticker on the top of it. If you poke a hole in the middle of the sticker with a paper clip, wiggle it a little, you'll reset the reminder.

As far as brand of code readers, I have the Eqquis model. It's a little more expensive ($125) but has very nice features. Autozone also has the inexpensive readers for about $60 that will reset the light but they don't tell you anything but the code numbers (that may be all you need).

Good luck!
 

Peter Matusov (Pmatusov)
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Username: Pmatusov

Post Number: 692
Registered: 09-2002
Posted on Wednesday, April 30, 2003 - 04:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Corey,

have you ever noticed that there are two different lights - "Check Engine" and "Service Engine?"
This is a very first time I hear that a service reminder (which comes on at about 52kmi intervals) triggers the CEL. Always learn something!

peter
 

Corey (Discobro)
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Username: Discobro

Post Number: 158
Registered: 12-2002
Posted on Wednesday, April 30, 2003 - 04:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

What I've read is that the "Service Engine" light, at least on D1s (96-97), means you have big problems and should stop the vehicle as soon as possible. Whereas the "Check Engine" light is just that, a reminder/service light. I've learned to trust the Check Engine light as it's just giving you a warning of what's to come (that's why I broke down and bought my own OBDII reader!).

LR should have switched the names of these warning lights. It seems more appropriate...
 

Robbie Donaldson (Robbie)
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Username: Robbie

Post Number: 354
Registered: 02-2002
Posted on Wednesday, April 30, 2003 - 04:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

completely wrong Corey. Orange Check Engine is bad when on, really bad when blinking. Red Service Engine is your emission reminder light. If your orange/amber Check Engine light is on, you will be throwing a code. have it read to figure out the problem. Friend of mine bought one of those cheap obdii readers off Harbor Freight for about $50, read codes and reset no problem.
 

Peter Matusov (Pmatusov)
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Username: Pmatusov

Post Number: 693
Registered: 09-2002
Posted on Wednesday, April 30, 2003 - 05:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Corey, can you have ANYTHING straight?
anything at all?
 

Peter Matusov (Pmatusov)
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Username: Pmatusov

Post Number: 694
Registered: 09-2002
Posted on Wednesday, April 30, 2003 - 05:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

... but there may be more than one Corey on this board posessing the same smarts
 

Yaroslav (Andr6761)
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Username: Andr6761

Post Number: 40
Registered: 07-2002
Posted on Wednesday, April 30, 2003 - 08:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

lol, yeah my lights come on and off, but it runs fine and i am really lazy so i never even bother...but it probably is a good idea to have those lights checked out...
 

Peter Matusov (Pmatusov)
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Username: Pmatusov

Post Number: 695
Registered: 09-2002
Posted on Wednesday, April 30, 2003 - 09:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Well, Slava, after I watched my friend to have to take the engine apart after letting the CEL go, I became a little paranoid about it. On my truck, CEL is on most of the time, but I check the codes every couple of weeks.

peter
 

Anatoly Vasiljev (Gaiver)
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Username: Gaiver

Post Number: 2
Registered: 05-2003
Posted on Sunday, May 04, 2003 - 03:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Hi,
I have more then 1 year yellow lamp chack engine on. On service station was replaced 4 oxygen sensons, two catalic conventors without any result. (misfire and 02 sensors errors)
Only one month ago was replaced "position sensor" (no idea how to explane). It is located on back right side of engeen - visible from bottom of engine. Problem was solved
Anatoly
 

Yaroslav (Andr6761)
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Username: Andr6761

Post Number: 41
Registered: 07-2002
Posted on Sunday, May 04, 2003 - 04:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

yeah rovers are definetly a pain in the butt, but they are still the coolest...
 

Anatoly Vasiljev (Gaiver)
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Username: Gaiver

Post Number: 5
Registered: 05-2003
Posted on Sunday, May 04, 2003 - 05:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

check the following site SoftwareForCars.com
I have small laptop computer on my car for online monitoring with OBDII SW installed.
Nice to see what is going under hood and reset lamp when it is neccesary.
P.S. when lampin ON your engine is in "safe mode"
and fuel running is going up.
Anatoly
 

Michelle Redfield (Mtdrews)
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Username: Mtdrews

Post Number: 2
Registered: 04-2003
Posted on Tuesday, May 06, 2003 - 12:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

My check engine light came on for a week, then went off for two days, on for one and now off. Why would it go on and off like that when I havent had it checked out?
 

Robbie Donaldson (Robbie)
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Username: Robbie

Post Number: 356
Registered: 02-2002
Posted on Tuesday, May 06, 2003 - 09:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

sometimes, and i stress sometimes, the check engine light will clear itself after a certain number of restarts of the truck. this usually only happens if the fault registered happens intermittently or just one time. for example a single misfire on a bank or maybe gas cap was not tightened down. anyway, everytime your check engine light comes on, i believe it still logs the fault into the computer? so you should be able to hook up a reader and read all the previous check engine codes. anyone verify?
 

Alan Yim (Alan)
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Username: Alan

Post Number: 439
Registered: 09-2002
Posted on Tuesday, May 06, 2003 - 09:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

If whatever is causing the fault runs fault free for a period of time and after a certain number of restarts, the check engine light will go out until the next time a fault is registered. Then the light will come back on. If the light is going on and off like that, probably a good indicator something is faulty. Both of my front two O2 sensors went bad but I didn't bother replacing them for quite a while so I witnessed this 'on/off' thing quite a few times. But I would suggest bringing your truck in to at least see what the code(s) is so you're aware of what the problem potentially is.
 

Michelle Redfield (Mtdrews)
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Username: Mtdrews

Post Number: 4
Registered: 04-2003
Posted on Tuesday, May 06, 2003 - 09:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Very helpful information! Thank you both for your help. I am going to take it in to get a reading and go from there. :-)
 

Praveen K (Praveenk22)
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Post Number: 3
Registered: 05-2003
Posted on Tuesday, May 06, 2003 - 10:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I had the check engine light come on recently i.e 2 days ago. One of the first things to check is to see if the fuel filler cap is properly closed. If not, then the check engine light will be triggered ON. This was the problem for me atleast.

If this doesn't clear it up, then go ahead and follow the recommendations as posted.

Have fun & enjoy your disco !!
 

Dick Walker (Wyo183121)
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Username: Wyo183121

Post Number: 49
Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Thursday, May 08, 2003 - 08:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Does the 95 Disco have the same system?
 

Daniel B. Brown (Bbrown)
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Username: Bbrown

Post Number: 4
Registered: 05-2003
Posted on Thursday, May 08, 2003 - 08:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

GET some one with a snap-on scanner to retreave diagonostics info for you. You wont be able to read manufacture specific service info but you can look at genaric OBD-II info. This is the place to start speculation is pointless .
 

gp (Garrett)
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Post Number: 2081
Registered: 10-2001
Posted on Thursday, May 08, 2003 - 08:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

'95 uses OBDI.
 

Corey (Discobro)
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Post Number: 167
Registered: 12-2002
Posted on Friday, May 09, 2003 - 02:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Hey I'm just telling what I know and have learned from other D-webbers so don't blame it on me!! I have heard it both ways now - which one is right? The "Service Engine" (red) is for service reminders? That is true in newer models (98+) but I have READ ON D-WEB that it's not the case with pre-97. The codes on my 96 read P0420 and P0430 which are catylitic related. Is that not an emissions reminder or something deeper?

Hey Peter, is that sarcasm? I'm not Corey Shuman if that's what you mean... Yeah I open my mouth and speak what I know (apparentlly) but you live and learn right?
 

Robbie Donaldson (Robbie)
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Post Number: 363
Registered: 02-2002
Posted on Friday, May 09, 2003 - 03:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

yeah, think pm mixed you up with the other corey. but that is still incorrect. all 94-99 north america DI's have a red service engine light and an amber/orange check engine light. the red service engine light is just a reminder light to get an emission service from the dealer. the orange/amber check engine light means you are throwing a code which means there is something wrong with your truck. it might be negligible, might be inconsequential, but the computer has picked up a deviation from the norm and is telling you to get it fixed.

now, the 99+ DII's have just one light (i believe service engine) which means something is wrong.

this is the gospel, commit it to memory.
 

Robbie Donaldson (Robbie)
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Username: Robbie

Post Number: 364
Registered: 02-2002
Posted on Friday, May 09, 2003 - 03:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

oh, and your codes read as:
P0420 Catalyst Efficiency Low Fault Bank A

P0430 Catalyst Efficiency Low Fault Bank B

which i do not think is a reminder
 

Eric Pena (Evalp)
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Username: Evalp

Post Number: 502
Registered: 06-2002
Posted on Friday, May 09, 2003 - 03:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I had the amber light come on and off for a month. Same situation, on for a few days then off and back on. Got the MAF sensor replaced and all was good after that.

Get a code read and then decifer what it means and fix it. If it's on, it need attention.

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