| Author | Message | ||
     Maneesh Kumar (Dmk) New Member Username: Dmk Post Number: 34 Registered: 07-2002 |
At highway speeds the passenger side front corner of the hood on my 99 D1 looks as if it is going to fly south for the winter. Any ideas?? | ||
| J E Robison Service Co (Robisonservice) Member Username: Robisonservice Post Number: 97 Registered: 10-2002 |
Adjust the center latch so the hood closes tighter, and adjust the rubber buffers so it does not bounce. The hood buffers should close against the radiator support and fender tops, which should be in line. | ||
| Jack Quinlan (Jsq) Senior Member Username: Jsq Post Number: 253 Registered: 10-2002 |
hood pins would probably solve the problem: http://www.pangaea-expeditions.com/products/brand/pangaeaprodindex.html good thread a ways down | ||
| Daniel Covaciu (Danielcovaciu) Member Username: Danielcovaciu Post Number: 124 Registered: 10-2002 |
Damn Jack, beat me to it. I'm going to try and get my hood pins on this weekend. Maneesh, both corners of my hood look like they are getting ready for lift-off. This is a great excuse to cut that pretty $1000 aluminum hood for the pins. Cant wait! Dan | ||
| Kyle Van Tassel (Kyle) Moderator Username: Kyle Post Number: 259 Registered: 11-2002 |
Hood pins are one of those things you cant properly hate until you have had them for awhile Kyle "Blow me" | ||
| Carter Simcoe (Carter) Senior Member Username: Carter Post Number: 2378 Registered: 04-2002 |
What don't you like about them Kyle?? I'm thinking of getting them soon because I would really enjoy not fucking with a busted latch ever again. | ||
| Daniel Covaciu (Danielcovaciu) Member Username: Danielcovaciu Post Number: 125 Registered: 10-2002 |
Yeah Kyle. What do you base your response on? Have you had hood pins on a 98 Disco? Does your stock latch work better? Why can't you you except something new and high-tech? Once I install the pins my truck will kick your trucks ass off-road. What is your address? I'm going to drive over(once I've installed my hood pins) and kick your ass! Corey....I mean Dan. | ||
| Carter Simcoe (Carter) Senior Member Username: Carter Post Number: 2379 Registered: 04-2002 |
ha ha, well I seriously want to know. I don't want to drill holes in my hood only to have regrets afterwards. | ||
| Ron L (Ronl) Member Username: Ronl Post Number: 47 Registered: 11-2002 |
"Hood pins are one of those things you cant properly hate until you have had them for awhile" Like when its freezing? Or better yet when it catches on fire? Which one? I'm dying to know.... Or is it when some joker takes the pins off for you? | ||
| Maneesh Kumar (Dmk) New Member Username: Dmk Post Number: 35 Registered: 07-2002 |
Damn, I think I will just fly south for the winter! | ||
| Maneesh Kumar (Dmk) New Member Username: Dmk Post Number: 36 Registered: 07-2002 |
thanks guys. | ||
| Daniel Covaciu (Danielcovaciu) Member Username: Danielcovaciu Post Number: 126 Registered: 10-2002 |
Ron, I actually already have the pins, just havent installed them yet. The ones that pangea expeditions sells are pretty cool. The actual pin is attached to the round piece that bolts to the hood so it cannot be removed or stolen. It's not like the old cotter pin style you see on race cars alot. So what's your address Kyle? Yours to Ron, might as well kick your ass to while I'm at it. It's been too long since we've had a 300 post flame war. LOL Dan | ||
| Ozzie Silvera (Ozzie) Member Username: Ozzie Post Number: 73 Registered: 11-2002 |
Folks, Hello there, Have had Hood Pins on my RRC for about a year and a half Love em!. I also have limb risers, so It would be hard for someone to open the hood unless they really want to remove both limb risers and then the pins, these pins are stainless and I bought the both of them from Susquehanna motorsports I think they're in PA, they were like $16.00 for the pair. Pretty difficult to line up the rods for the drill, and scary too, but hey, it's a utility vehicle not a lamborghini, Drill away! I do think in case of a fire, it would suck, but at least I wouldn't have to stick my hand under the front of the hood to open it up while I got the Fire Extinguisher ready. Have fun folks! Happy Rovering. Ozzie | ||
| Carter Simcoe (Carter) Senior Member Username: Carter Post Number: 2384 Registered: 04-2002 |
bump Kyle??? Not fucking with you are anything I seriously want to hear your thoughts. | ||
| dareDVL (Daredvl) New Member Username: Daredvl Post Number: 27 Registered: 03-2003 |
Will the stock alarm go off if someone opens the hood (if you had pins installed and removed that @$%%@#$ cable)? | ||
| Ozzie Silvera (Ozzie) Member Username: Ozzie Post Number: 74 Registered: 11-2002 |
dare, yes the alarm will go off if the hood is opened. I was thinking about that when I removed the pull cable, and sure enough it sure does, and it helps that I installed a cheap but deadly set of Hella Air horns which are electric, so when the alarm goes off...it goes OFF. Ozzie | ||
| Erik Olson (Jon) Senior Member Username: Jon Post Number: 379 Registered: 02-2002 |
I've had the pins before, and in my experience, they're not as practical for a daily driver. These items are designed for removable (that means a couple guys lifting straight up and off) racecar deck lids. Not so much designed for a pivot-point installation. This means a slight "rub" when dropping the hood into place, as the hole comes over the pin - even when installed properly. �The install is never as easy as you might think. The radiator-wall is made of thin metal that should be reinforced. The pins, due to leverage, tend to come off the hole centerline easily, bending the radiator-wall metal. If you're really good at fabricating (not just building Ikea furniture) you may be able to line up the hood to the pin holes properly. But probably not. �The pins are always in the way, even when removed and hanging on their little steel cable leashes. They clank nicely into your paint too! The kit will likely come with a stainless or aluminum collar that will doublestick to your hood to minimize scratches from the little leashes. I recommend leaving the little leashes off, it makes it easier for thieves to take them, leaving your rig one step closer to the way you should have left it in the first place. If you do install them, completely remove the stock hood release mechanism - if you pull the release lever, the hood will often pop up into the pins, which you've likely not removed before you get out of the cabin. This singular action will eventually (or the first time) create a little "taco-bend" in those pretty stainless or aluminum collars I talked about several pages ago. Do yourself, and whatever resale value you have left in that POS a favor, and just do the five minute adjustment on the factory latch. On the other hand, if you're building a fleet of Racing Discoveries, you should also call Ho and John for some seriously big tires that won't ever fit, and then 120oz. of Equal each to try and balance them. LOL Just my personal, first-hand, totally unbiased experience. e | ||
| Ron L (Ronl) Member Username: Ronl Post Number: 57 Registered: 11-2002 |
Dan you (dont) have mail ;-) | ||
| Paul T. Schram (Paulschram) Senior Member Username: Paulschram Post Number: 1395 Registered: 02-2002 |
Gee, I have used hood pins on a number of daily driver drag cars and the hood pins were the last thing making these vehicles less than desirable street vehicles. Anyone who knows how to use their electric drill can mount them. A piece of chain or cable and a $10 padlock will keep the children out. The discs put beneath the pins to keep the paint pretty can be beefed up (I never used the ones that originally came with the pins, but made my own). And lastly, I never consider resale value on much of anything I own as I really do drive the wheels from my vehicles-on the last one, both rears within three days! Wow, strong opinions and even stronger differences thereof. Peace, Paul | ||
| Corey (Discobro) Member Username: Discobro Post Number: 161 Registered: 12-2002 |
Anyone have any LR decals to go with my hood pins? DANIEL COVACIU HAS NO BALLS! Just playin'....  | ||
| Daniel Covaciu (Danielcovaciu) Member Username: Danielcovaciu Post Number: 130 Registered: 10-2002 |
Bastard Corey, what's your address so I can go over there and kick your ass. I never did get around to installing my pins this weekend. I spent most of Saturday morning taking off the rear sway bar and cutting off the front airdam. Your should have seen the look on my mom's face as I'm hacking away on the front of the $70,000 Range Rover Discovery with a hack saw. That definetly made me feel like I have a pair of rather large balls. It was great. I'll try to get to the pins next week. So many mods so little time. I'm not sure if its going to be a hard job or easy now. Everyone seems to have a completly diffrent opinion. You have mail Corey! Bastard! Dan | ||
| Nadim Samara (Discodino) Member Username: Discodino Post Number: 51 Registered: 02-2003 |
"Range Rover Discovery"...get out under the truck and look and the hood sticker! | ||
| Alan Yim (Alan) Senior Member Username: Alan Post Number: 440 Registered: 09-2002 |
Identity crisis... | ||
| Jens St�rmer (Jenzz) New Member Username: Jenzz Post Number: 26 Registered: 08-2002 |
Could someone please explain the term "resale value" to me? Jenzz '91 Disco (1st Owner) with hood-pins  | ||
| Alan Yim (Alan) Senior Member Username: Alan Post Number: 441 Registered: 09-2002 |
Resale value = How much the vehicle can be re-sold for after initial purchase. | ||
| Daniel Covaciu (Danielcovaciu) Member Username: Danielcovaciu Post Number: 133 Registered: 10-2002 |
Nadim, Alan, I was being sarcastic. Most people around my town dont seem to know the diffrence between range rover and land rover. And everyone thinks that Disco's cost $70,000 brand new. Tuff crowd! Dan | ||
| Rick D (Fatmcnasty) New Member Username: Fatmcnasty Post Number: 18 Registered: 04-2003 |
Dan LOL you must be from Oregon. | ||
| Brendan Kearns (Howboucha) Member Username: Howboucha Post Number: 60 Registered: 01-2003 |
What about leather straps with big buckles in the middle. That would look really neat. You could run two, each along each edge of the hood. Similar to the old British sports cars in the 50's. B.K. | ||
| Daniel Covaciu (Danielcovaciu) Member Username: Danielcovaciu Post Number: 134 Registered: 10-2002 |
Rick, how did you know? Portland, OR I couldnt tell you how many times people asked me "Dont those things cost like $70K new?" And people cant beleive I wheel my truck. And they dont think my truck is a truck, they think its a luxury car. Oregon is a cool place for wheeling, we have lots of it. But the only things you see on the trails are heeps and full size pickups. Brendan, do the straps on your truck and post a picture. Dan | ||
| Rick D (Fatmcnasty) New Member Username: Fatmcnasty Post Number: 19 Registered: 04-2003 |
Dan I here the same thing In S. Oregon too(Medford). | ||
| Kyle Van Tassel (Kyle) Moderator Username: Kyle Post Number: 271 Registered: 11-2002 |
As I said , hood pins are one of those things you cant properly hate until you have owned them.... As far as them being on "race cars". Well , I am not sure what everyone here is considering a race car. NHRA rules forced me to use them , otherwise I wouldnt have... Kyle "Blow me" | ||
| Carter Simcoe (Carter) Senior Member Username: Carter Post Number: 2425 Registered: 04-2002 |
soooo..... Why exactly did you hate them so much? I just want to hear some more opinons before I decide whether or not to get them. | ||
| Brian Friend (Brianfriend) Senior Member Username: Brianfriend Post Number: 791 Registered: 09-2002 |
Duct Tape and bailing wire. That's how my headlight stays on, it would proably work for hoods too. | ||
| Shawn McKenzie (Shawn) Member Username: Shawn Post Number: 68 Registered: 10-2002 |
Had em on a fibreglass hinged hood on a streetable 1/4 mile car I had. They looked cool, but were a PITA after a while. When street driving, I replaced the pins with little brass padlocks to keep the parking lot thieves away from my engine. In the end, it's all about personal choice. Like Ho's watch. | ||
| Nathan Hindman (Nathanh) New Member Username: Nathanh Post Number: 38 Registered: 07-2002 |
It think the livability of hood pins has largely to do with the design and their build quality. I've seen some styles of hood pins, such as the racing style with the straight pin and "safety" cable that are kind of a PITA. Personally, I ran the Pangaea bonnet pins for over a year before I decided for my company to start selling them. I've now had them on for about two years with no problems at all, and I think they're a pretty handy accessory as well. Just to make sure we're comparing apples to apples here, below is a pic of the bonnet pins that I'm talking about. Once you get past the initial aprehension of cutting into the hood, they're really pretty cool - no regrets on my end. Thanks, Nathan Hindman http://www.Pangaea-Expeditions.com  | ||
| Corey (Discobro) Member Username: Discobro Post Number: 164 Registered: 12-2002 |
Those are nice. I've been contemplating that style of pin for a while. Going down I-5 from Portland the other day (wind tunnel near Woodburn) my hood actually popped up going 80 MPH. I mean 65 MPH... Luckily the latch caught it so I didn't have a $70,000 kite going down the freeway. I found that I need to push the hood release lever back in after opening the hood. Thing still wobbles around though. I'm afraid it'll happen again so in the pins go! Oregon humor... LOL | ||
| Nathan Hindman (Nathanh) Member Username: Nathanh Post Number: 43 Registered: 07-2002 |
Ever seen a hood come completely undone on the highway before? Happened to a guy driving one lane over from me during heavy afternoon traffic a couple of months ago. The hinges stayed together, but the wind just forced the hood up all the way back, smashing the hell out of his front window and roof. The scary part is that after that, he was was driving "blind" with the hood blocking his now destroyed windshield.... kind of freaky, and I suppose I'm lucky he didn't swerve out of control in any direction... Thanks, Nathan Hindman http://www.pangaea-expeditions.com | ||
| Daniel Covaciu (Danielcovaciu) Member Username: Danielcovaciu Post Number: 137 Registered: 10-2002 |
Corey. I have had the same thing happen to me driving on hwy 26 between beaverton and portland at night, in traffic. It was in a 99 4-runner. Scared the hell out of me. I consider myself lucky to not have wreaked. Any time I do much over 70 in the disco the hood really freaks me out. It looks like its gonna come up at any time. I think these pins will give me some peace of mind if nothing else. Dan | ||
| Alan Greening (Alan_g) New Member Username: Alan_g Post Number: 4 Registered: 04-2003 |
The wobbly bonnet, or "hood" as you call it looks bad but every Land Rover I've ever been in has done it to a graeter or lesser extent. My SIII bonnet has popped up a few times, but because of the shape of them you can still see enough to pull over (reasonably) safely. I've found the best way to get over these problems is to try to ignore it. | ||
| Daniel Covaciu (Danielcovaciu) Member Username: Danielcovaciu Post Number: 143 Registered: 10-2002 |
Alan, your hood has popped up a few times and you still ignore it?!!! LOL Dan | ||
| Kyle Van Tassel (Kyle) Moderator Username: Kyle Post Number: 275 Registered: 11-2002 |
The best way to avoid it is to close the damn thing and make sure its latched.... Isnt that a no brainer ? Kyle "Blow me" | ||
| Blue (Blue) Senior Member Username: Blue Post Number: 16 Registered: 04-2003 |
just take the fuckin hood off and be done with it | ||
| D. Chapman (1hank1) Member Username: 1hank1 Post Number: 206 Registered: 02-2003 |
Mount a "D" ring to the hood and hook your winch to it. | ||
| Carter Simcoe (Carter) Senior Member Username: Carter Post Number: 2435 Registered: 04-2002 |
The reason I am thinking of getting them is because I don't want to ever find the hood latch broken again when I need to get at the inertia sensor... man what a pain in the ass. | ||
| Daniel Covaciu (Danielcovaciu) Member Username: Danielcovaciu Post Number: 145 Registered: 10-2002 |
How did you finally get the hood open? | ||
| Carter Simcoe (Carter) Senior Member Username: Carter Post Number: 2436 Registered: 04-2002 |
tried lots of stuff but eventually got pissed and drilled it apart from underneath. | ||
| Kennith P. Whichard III (Kennith) Senior Member Username: Kennith Post Number: 350 Registered: 05-2002 |
Man Carter, Sounds like me when I ripped my fuel door off. I never did re-install it. Cheers, Kennith |
