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Dan Armbruster (Dan_armbruster)
Member Username: Dan_armbruster
Post Number: 100 Registered: 04-2003
| Posted on Sunday, May 04, 2003 - 12:15 pm: |
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This morning my 98 disco (36k) started and then died after 2-3 seconds. It seems like the fuel pump, but I haven't found out for sure. My question is should I take it to the dealer or to an import specialist a couple blocks away? (I've seen LR's there many times) I'm not under warranty, and I'm trying to decide if I should take out an extended warranty now that a problem has occured. (No problems ever before) Also, where is the fuel pump located on D1's? Any advice will be appreciated. |
   
Dan Armbruster (Dan_armbruster)
Member Username: Dan_armbruster
Post Number: 101 Registered: 04-2003
| Posted on Sunday, May 04, 2003 - 12:35 pm: |
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I had the disco towed to the import garage, and I'm trying to find the best prices for fuel pumps. Any suggestions? |
   
Dan Armbruster (Dan_armbruster)
Member Username: Dan_armbruster
Post Number: 104 Registered: 04-2003
| Posted on Sunday, May 04, 2003 - 03:14 pm: |
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If someone would respond it would help me alot and save me $$$. RN has a the pump, harness, and hoses for $261.30. How hard is this to put in? |
   
D. Chapman (1hank1)
Member Username: 1hank1
Post Number: 174 Registered: 02-2003
| Posted on Sunday, May 04, 2003 - 03:46 pm: |
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I have never done it on a Disco, but why go with a LR fuel pump? On toyotas we just got a regular fuel pump and hooked it into the fuel line and wired it up. Depending on what you buy you can get one from 20.00 to 200.00. |
   
D. Chapman (1hank1)
Member Username: 1hank1
Post Number: 175 Registered: 02-2003
| Posted on Sunday, May 04, 2003 - 03:52 pm: |
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FUEL PUMP AND SENDER UNIT Service repair no - 19.45.03 A plastic fuel tank with a combined fuel pump/sender unit is fitted. The fuel pump/sender unit is accessed through a panel in the load space floor. Fuel pump/sender unit WARNING: Ensure that fuel handling precautions given in Section 01 -Introduction are strictly adhered to when carrying out following instructions. CAUTION: Before disconnecting any part of fuel system, it is imperative that all dust, dirt and debris is removed from around components to prevent ingress of foreign matter into fuel system. Service Tools: LRT-19-001 wrench - pump retaining ring LRT-19-002 �Speedfit� disconnector Remove 1. Depressurise fuel system. See Depressurising Fuel System 2. Disconnect battery negative lead. 3. Syphon at least 9 litres (2 gallons) of fuel from fuel tank into a suitable container that can be sealed. 4. Remove carpet from loadspace floor and tailgate. 5. Fold back loadspace sound insulation to reveal access panel.MFI 21 REPAIR 6. Remove access panel from floor. 7. Disconnect multi-plug from fuel sender unit. 8. Disconnect two fuel line unions from fuel pump. 9. Using service tool no. LRT-19-001, remove pump unit retaining ring. Withdraw unit from fuel tank. WARNING: A quantity of fuel will be retained in body of unit, care must be taken to prevent fuel spillage when unit is removed. Refit 10. Insert fuel pump into tank. Fit retaining ring. Tighten to 48 Nm. 11. Connect fuel lines to pump. 12. Connect multi-plug to sender unit. 13. After assembly, check all fuel pipes, sealing rings and hose connections are secure. 14. Run engine to check for fuel leaks. 15. Inspect access panel seal, fit a new seal if necessary. 16. Fit access panel and tighten screws. 17. Reverse removal procedure. 4 - 5. Fit insulation and carpet.
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Dan Armbruster (Dan_armbruster)
Member Username: Dan_armbruster
Post Number: 105 Registered: 04-2003
| Posted on Sunday, May 04, 2003 - 04:28 pm: |
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thanks alot that sounds pretty involved! I'll look into a non-LR pump right now |
   
Mike Rupp (Mike_rupp)
Member Username: Mike_rupp
Post Number: 187 Registered: 02-2002
| Posted on Sunday, May 04, 2003 - 05:41 pm: |
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You should be able to get a genuine pump for under $200 from Nathan @ Discount Rovers. Changing the pump is a 20 minute job. 1. Remove the trim piece that holds carpet down and peel back about 1 foot of carpet to get to access panel & remove access panel. 2. Unplug electrical connection and fuel lines. 3. Unscrew the ring that holds the pump in place (make sure to clean up the area around the pump so that no junk falls into the tank) 4. Remove pump. 5. Install new pump and do the reverse of 1-3. Make sure to buy new nuts and olives (compression fittings) with the pump. |
   
Dan Armbruster (Dan_armbruster)
Member Username: Dan_armbruster
Post Number: 108 Registered: 04-2003
| Posted on Sunday, May 04, 2003 - 06:22 pm: |
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Thanks Mike, that's about the same price i've been seing at other places too. Another question is do I have to use a LR pump or can I use an alternative that would be cheaper? |
   
Dan Armbruster (Dan_armbruster)
Member Username: Dan_armbruster
Post Number: 109 Registered: 04-2003
| Posted on Sunday, May 04, 2003 - 06:32 pm: |
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Thanks Mike, that's about the same price i've been seing at other places too. Another question is do I have to use a LR pump or can I use an alternative that would be cheaper? |
   
Jared Schnelle (Jared)
Member Username: Jared
Post Number: 94 Registered: 09-2002
| Posted on Sunday, May 04, 2003 - 08:55 pm: |
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Just so you know, after I put in my fuel pump I overtightened that little ring and when the pump turned on, it made a scraping sound. So FYI if that happens you know what it is. |
   
Dan Armbruster (Dan_armbruster)
Member Username: Dan_armbruster
Post Number: 110 Registered: 04-2003
| Posted on Sunday, May 04, 2003 - 09:04 pm: |
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thanks Jared for the heads up. I'm looking for an extended warranty as I've learned that you simply can't own a disco without one. Any suggestions? |
   
Dan Armbruster (Dan_armbruster)
Member Username: Dan_armbruster
Post Number: 117 Registered: 04-2003
| Posted on Monday, May 05, 2003 - 10:37 pm: |
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Now a twist in the story- I go to the mechanic this morning to give him my keys, and we walk out to my disco. He opens it and turns it on and it runs fine! He drives it around the lot for a minute and revs the engine. Needless to say I felt like a dumbass. He goes back inside and I then try to start it up and it started and died after 3 seconds- Just like yesterday. Does anyone know what the hell is going on. I would think a fuel pump should last at least 80k miles. Mine only has 36k. |
   
Dan Armbruster (Dan_armbruster)
Member Username: Dan_armbruster
Post Number: 122 Registered: 04-2003
| Posted on Monday, May 05, 2003 - 11:10 pm: |
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Although I don't even know if the fuel pump is the problem. |
   
Paul T. Schram (Paulschram)
Senior Member Username: Paulschram
Post Number: 1398 Registered: 02-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, May 06, 2003 - 10:09 am: |
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If it is a fuel pump, there are many alternative parts that can be had for less than $100. My truck has a fuel pump from a Mazda pick-up in it. |
   
Dan Armbruster (Dan_armbruster)
Member Username: Dan_armbruster
Post Number: 124 Registered: 04-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, May 06, 2003 - 04:57 pm: |
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Thanks Paul- But this morning the guy called and said he started it at least a dozen times successfully , but he said it kind of missed on a few attempts. Could this just be wires or plugs thats causing the problem? I've only had the truck for a year with no problems so I'm not familiar with what's going wrong. |
   
Dan Armbruster (Dan_armbruster)
Member Username: Dan_armbruster
Post Number: 126 Registered: 04-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, May 07, 2003 - 09:07 pm: |
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Now the guy doesn't know what's wrong, so I'm picking my disco up tomorrow. He claims he can't find anything wrong-I hope he's right. I have 36k, should I change plugs,wires, fuel filter? |
   
Aaron Richardet (Draaronr)
Member Username: Draaronr
Post Number: 107 Registered: 09-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, May 07, 2003 - 09:40 pm: |
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fuel filter yes. check to see that you are getting power to the injectors with a test light kit. If not check you relays for fuel management. I doubt it is the pump, but I could be wrong. I would check these other things first. |
   
Dan Armbruster (Dan_armbruster)
Member Username: Dan_armbruster
Post Number: 127 Registered: 04-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, May 07, 2003 - 09:46 pm: |
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thanks Aaron- I'll check the filter when I get it back tomorrow. Hope its' something dumb like that. |