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-bob- (Xavetarx)
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Post Number: 73
Registered: 01-2003
Posted on Monday, May 05, 2003 - 01:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I installed HD 3" rovertym springs, and I just noticed that the coils were not seated properly (in the rear). They were moved towards the sides of the truck. The lip that looks like it's "suppose" to keep them tucked under was in the middle of the spring (I jacked it up, and pushed them back in so they are now seated properly).. but has anyone had this problem (and a remedy?) I'm thinking of just wrapping a clamping device (U-bolt) of some kind around the lip to keep them in when they might want to pop out. It's not something that happens under normal driving I'd guess.. but I do have to go over a rail road crossing, and that gets pretty bouncy.
 

Jason Walker (Dosed)
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Username: Dosed

Post Number: 10
Registered: 03-2003
Posted on Monday, May 05, 2003 - 02:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Bob:

I recently installed these on my truck:

http://www.expeditionexchange.com/retainers/

They work great. Very nice quality as well.

Good luck.

~Jason
http://www.kangol.net/LWB/
 

David Hobbs (Ca_surveyor)
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Post Number: 28
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Monday, May 05, 2003 - 05:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Bob,

I have OME's on my '88 RRC and an additional EE 1" spacer. I have not had an problems with my springs jumping the plates. Do you have the retaining straps installed? I bounce mine daily on the trail and r/r tracks.
 

steve herrod (Sherrod)
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Post Number: 32
Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Monday, May 05, 2003 - 06:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

david hobbs....
did you install ee spring spacers in the front as well as the rear? i know ee doesnt reccommend them in the front
 

Carter Simcoe (Carter)
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Username: Carter

Post Number: 2412
Registered: 04-2002
Posted on Monday, May 05, 2003 - 06:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

they don't make them for the front.
 

David Hobbs (Ca_surveyor)
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Post Number: 29
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Monday, May 05, 2003 - 06:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Steve,

Not on the front. I added spacers to the rear because I am always carrying 300 - 400 extra pounds of equipment in the back. It helped level things out. If I need to add additional lift in the front, I will pull my rear springs and send them forward and replace the rears with heavy duty ones.
 

-bob- (Xavetarx)
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Username: Xavetarx

Post Number: 74
Registered: 01-2003
Posted on Monday, May 05, 2003 - 09:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I didn't get the retainers (or straps) cause I didn't "think" I was going to need'm. I wasn't planning on wheeling it yet, and since they didn't have'em stock, I figured nothing would happen! I think I'll just use a couple U-bolts to hold'm in place while I go over the train tracks and see how that goes. Thanks for the link though!
 

John Cinquegrana (Johnc)
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Username: Johnc

Post Number: 434
Registered: 07-2002
Posted on Tuesday, May 06, 2003 - 07:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Shocks will limit the flex of the spring also. I have short Bilstein shocks that prevent the rears from popping out.

What brand/size shocks do you have?
 

-bob- (Xavetarx)
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Username: Xavetarx

Post Number: 75
Registered: 01-2003
Posted on Tuesday, May 06, 2003 - 11:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

The shocks don't limit the travel.. I have the oversized ones for a toyota or something.. I forget the exact part number. They're OME's.. something like N72? When I put the springs back in, I had to push the axle down away from the frame with a bottle jack (I jacked the truck off the ground via the frame). I took the shock off from the axle (for a different reason) and it traveled farther than the axle by a couple inches. I'm happy with that though.
 

Paul Schuetz (Schuetz)
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Username: Schuetz

Post Number: 74
Registered: 04-2002
Posted on Tuesday, May 06, 2003 - 01:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I've only had my spring come unseated once,(OME MD all around) because I broke the head off the Bilstein on my rear driver side. Since then I replaced all with OME and have had no prblem since. Even maxed out the flex last weekend on some local trails with no problems.

Paul
'91 RRC
 

John Cinquegrana (Johnc)
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Username: Johnc

Post Number: 435
Registered: 07-2002
Posted on Tuesday, May 06, 2003 - 02:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

>The shocks don't limit the travel.. I have the oversized ones for a toyota or something..

So if the shocks don't limit the travel then why do you have oversized ones? I'm confused...
 

-bob- (Xavetarx)
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Username: Xavetarx

Post Number: 76
Registered: 01-2003
Posted on Wednesday, May 07, 2003 - 12:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

They're not "oversided" per say, they're just larger than stock due to the added 3" in spring height.
 

John Cinquegrana (Johnc)
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Username: Johnc

Post Number: 437
Registered: 07-2002
Posted on Wednesday, May 07, 2003 - 02:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I see.

My point is that if you have stock shocks and 3" springs you will limit the travel of the axle because of the short shock. Therefore the spring will not unseat. Obviously you will have less flex. Right?
 

Phillip Perkinson (Rover4x4)
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Post Number: 211
Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Wednesday, May 07, 2003 - 11:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

exactly
 

Steve Cooper (Scrover)
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Username: Scrover

Post Number: 314
Registered: 09-2002
Posted on Thursday, May 08, 2003 - 12:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

It depends which ome shocks -bob- has. If he's unseating a 3" spring he's gotta have at least N25s in the back if not N76s. In which case, the spring needs to be retained or coned.

"and it traveled farther than the axle by a couple inches" (with the frame jacked) I'm guessing N76s - almost 5" more travel than stock.
 

-bob- (Xavetarx)
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Username: Xavetarx

Post Number: 77
Registered: 01-2003
Posted on Thursday, May 08, 2003 - 04:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I forget which is front, which is rear, but... I have the N73 and N25 OME shocks. I will be retaining the springs. Thank you for all the responces.
 

Ozzie Silvera (Ozzie)
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Username: Ozzie

Post Number: 77
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Sunday, May 11, 2003 - 07:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Folks the EE spring retainers for the rear are worth every penny, Many times my rear end has cme off the ground completely, and never a problem. I'm presently running on my 1993 6600lb LWB OME 763's in the back and the new 767's in the front, these would be considered Super HD for the OME line and for shocks the N115's for the front and the N44's for the rear. in the front the Rovertym Corrected Radius Arms, and waiting to be installed are the Hein Jointed Rear Links. Wonderful set up so far, presently running 235/85/16 Yokohama Geolanders 31.7" with 28K miles on them and they should make another run up to Colorado this summer.
Has anyone else tried the new 767's up front?
I made the mistake of trying the 762 rears up front for a week while the 767 were on their way and every speed bump was like climbing rocks with no shocks or springs, and the front was up 1" over the rear,.
Best,
Ozzie

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