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Zach Jaggers (Mountenn)
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Username: Mountenn

Post Number: 52
Registered: 03-2003
Posted on Tuesday, May 06, 2003 - 07:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Anybody tried Buckshot Maxxis Mudders on a Rover? They look really beefy, and seem to give a lot of bang for the buck. A friend has 33" Buckshots on his Dodge, and they seem to do really well. I'm running an RTE 3" setup, and was thinking of adding 1" spring spacers and trying 33's, too. Either that or just going with a 32"...32 inches is really all you need (in my opinion, and we all know what opinions are like). Comments?
 

Carter Simcoe (Carter)
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Username: Carter

Post Number: 2429
Registered: 04-2002
Posted on Tuesday, May 06, 2003 - 07:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I know I say this everytime these things get brought up but....

I see them all the time down here on the bubbas' pick up trucks and EVERYTIME I see them they are almost bald (literly), this leaves me to believe that the tread life must BLOW.
 

Neil Flanagan (Electriceel)
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Username: Electriceel

Post Number: 99
Registered: 02-2002
Posted on Tuesday, May 06, 2003 - 07:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Maxxis Buckshot mudders are shit. The real deal is the Denman/Gateway Buckshot Mudder. They are made by the same company but don't get them confused. They are completely different animals.

I have 265/85/16 Buckshots on my 90 and love them. Great in the NJ mud and slop and even more impressive in the VT/NH granite. I've put the Buckshots on the Disco(stock offset Disco steelies, 3.5" lift) and they are pretty useless. Without flares or a +5 inch lift you would need 4 inch or taller bumpstops to stop them from tearing apart your rear door and rear quarters. They are 33.6" in diameter with a 9" treadwidth. I think there is also a 245/85/15 which i think would be killer on the disco.
 

Neil Flanagan (Electriceel)
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Username: Electriceel

Post Number: 100
Registered: 02-2002
Posted on Tuesday, May 06, 2003 - 08:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Yep. They are just complete garbage, Carter. Super soft rubber and no sidewall. The Denman Buckshots, though they are soft, have sidewall thickness of 3/4" and massive lugs. IMHO far superior to TSL's, but what the hell do I know. They are beefy as all hell. I have 15k on mine but don't expect to get over 20k.
 

TPH (Snowman)
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Username: Snowman

Post Number: 427
Registered: 12-2002
Posted on Wednesday, May 07, 2003 - 09:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

How bad/good are Dean Wildcat's? Anyone have experience with these or are they another "Bubba" tire? They certainly are cheap.

S-
 

Zach Jaggers (Mountenn)
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Username: Mountenn

Post Number: 53
Registered: 03-2003
Posted on Wednesday, May 07, 2003 - 10:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Alright, the input helps a lot. Any suggestions for a good, all-around tire that's not going to sink me financially? I want something with a decent tread life, strong sidewalls, and that will fare very well in Tennessee mud. They don't have to be mudders necessarily, just something that will attack the mud like it attacks the rock/loose dirt.
 

D. Chapman (1hank1)
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Username: 1hank1

Post Number: 191
Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Wednesday, May 07, 2003 - 11:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Goodyear MT/R's
 

Nathan Hindman (Nathanh)
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Username: Nathanh

Post Number: 41
Registered: 07-2002
Posted on Wednesday, May 07, 2003 - 11:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I ran the Denman/Gateway Buckshot Mudders on my D90 (265/85/16s) for about 2 years and I loved them. Pretty tough tire, great tread pattern and flexy sidewalls.

My only complaint was that the tire compound was pretty soft. After about 25K miles there was less than 1/3 tread left in them. On the other hand the soft compound made them work like crazy on the rocks out here in Colorado, and the traction out in Moab was unbelievable...

Thanks,
Nathan Hindman
http://www.Pangaea-Expeditions.com
 

Zach Jaggers (Mountenn)
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Username: Mountenn

Post Number: 55
Registered: 03-2003
Posted on Wednesday, May 07, 2003 - 11:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Anyone have a ballpark estimate on how much 5 Denman/Gateway Buckshot Mudders (32-33 x 10.5) or 5 Goodyear MT/R's (same size) would run? I have limited funds here...

Best-
Zach
 

D. Chapman (1hank1)
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Username: 1hank1

Post Number: 196
Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Wednesday, May 07, 2003 - 12:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Wal-Mart had the MT/R's for something like $170.00 each. They do cost a little more but they are good tires.
 

Neil Flanagan (Electriceel)
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Username: Electriceel

Post Number: 101
Registered: 02-2002
Posted on Wednesday, May 07, 2003 - 12:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

http://www.natltire.com/ntw0799/pages/mudders.html

There is no 33x10.5 MT/R. Closest size would be 265/75/16(32")

I'm serious about the 265/85 Buckshots. If you are not prepared to cut and put them on a wider offset wheel, you will be disappointed.

If you insist on a +32" tire in a mud tire and have a 4" lift, your best bet will probably be a 255/85/16 BFG MT or Cooper STT.

Listen to your gut and stick with a 32". Goodyear MT/R in 265/75/16.
 

Carter Simcoe (Carter)
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Username: Carter

Post Number: 2431
Registered: 04-2002
Posted on Wednesday, May 07, 2003 - 01:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

If you want a tire that is decent in mud but also streetable I would get BFG M/Ts instead of the Goodyears, if rocks are more importants than mud though then I would get the MT/Rs.
 

Enoch Snyder (Esnyder)
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Username: Esnyder

Post Number: 50
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Wednesday, May 07, 2003 - 02:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Call up your local Southern States farm supply store and check out a set of Co-Op Gripspurs. 7.50 x 16, which is close to the 235/85/16. Actually closer to 33" dia. because of lug size. But narrow, so they don't hit as much. Fantastic in mud, around $100 a piece, super strong sidewalls. I've aired them down to 10 #s and the tire barely shows a bulge. ROUGH on the highway, best as a second set of rims. Available as radials. They get flat spots if they sit overnight, but as the tires warm up they go away. There are pictures in my gallery of them on the truck.
 

Christopher Dynak (Adtoolco)
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Username: Adtoolco

Post Number: 220
Registered: 08-2002
Posted on Wednesday, May 07, 2003 - 06:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Futura M/T's...best bang for your buck.
 

Jason T. Barker (Speedminded)
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Username: Speedminded

Post Number: 243
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Sunday, May 11, 2003 - 11:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Nearly 10k miles on my Maxxis Mudders with no problems at all.

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