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Drew Porta (Ncrover)
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Registered: 05-2003
Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2003 - 02:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I have a stock '97 Discovery SD7 and am in need of new tires. Trying to decide between the 235/85 or the 245/75 sizes and was hoping to get some feedback from others who have used these sizes on their stock Discovery 1's.

I plan to trim the rear fenders and make the steering stop adjustments to the front. At some point I will modify the suspension for greater travel or lift the body for more clearance, but not right now. I barely have 40k of mileage on the Discovery and it has never been off-road (previous owner was a soccer-mom) so the suspension is in good shape. Any other thoughts about using these sizes on a stock Discovery 1?

Here are my tire choices:
- Yokohama Geolandar A/T Plus 2
- Bridgestone Dueler A/T D693
- Bridgestone Dueler A/T Revo
- Sumitomo HTR Sport A/T

Any comments or opinions on these tires and brands?

Basically, my plans are for very light trail riding and off-road use. The majority of my driving will be on the road and I'm not wanting to make any noise/handling/ride compromises for a mud tire which is why an all-terrain tire is the best choice for me. Why were these tires selected? Because the price is <$100 for each tire (I have 3 vehicles to keep maintained, etc.).

Thanks for the input!
 

Blue (Blue)
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Post Number: 26
Registered: 04-2003
Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2003 - 03:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I had 245/70/16 on a stock Disco, and they rubbed the rear quarter panel. Try pulling out the rear fenders and maybe a slight trim if you go 245/75.

I think 235/85 might be too tall for stock (rub the inside of the fenders).
 

Carter Simcoe (Carter)
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Post Number: 2489
Registered: 04-2002
Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2003 - 03:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

http://www.discoweb.org/trim

Those are 235/85s on a stock disco, looks like he got them to fit for street driving but I doubt it can flex much. Go with a lift (hell even the CB lift would work) or go with the 245/75s.
 

Ethan Makarowski (Ethan)
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Post Number: 13
Registered: 04-2003
Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2003 - 03:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Drew, check out the 235/85/16 Dunlop Radial Rover R/T's. I ordered a set of 5 from the tirerack.com for about $100 a piece. I've noticed that many among the land rover community have been happy with them. I have a set on my '67 SIIa right now and have been impressed with them both on and off-road. They are a cross between an all-terrain and a mud-terrain... good off-road ability with not a lot of road noise, although I've never had them on my Disco. Or at least not yet! It sounds like you are in the same situation that I'm in right now... I plan on swapping the Dunlops over to the Disco and putting some more aggressive muds on the series rover. I'm going to have to trim the fenders, etc. like you said and may even add some spacers in addition to the stock suspension that is on for now until some day when I can afford an upgrade.

Good luck - it sounds like a great upgrade.

Ethan Makarowski
ewmakaro@hotmail.com

 

Carter Simcoe (Carter)
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Post Number: 2492
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Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2003 - 03:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Guys don't use spacers with shitty limp stock springs, that is just asking for trouble. If money is realy a problem go CB, a set of heavy duty rears and move the stock rears to the front. That isn't going to cost much more than 4 spring spacers, it will perform better and be much safer
 

Nick DeValera (Ndevalera)
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Post Number: 10
Registered: 03-2002
Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2003 - 03:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I just bought the 235/85/16 Dunlop Radial Rover R/T's and did the OME HD shocks and springs all around on my 97 Disco. The tires are very quiet and ride really well. I got them at Tirerack for $102.00 a piece. I think you would like them. The whole set up gave me about 3 inches of lift. My Disco sits tall and rides better than before.
 

Brian Dickens (Bri)
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Post Number: 360
Registered: 08-2002
Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2003 - 07:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

There are pictures in my gallery of both on a '95. Never needed trimming with the 245/75 (BFG AT) and OME HD setup. I got the 235/85s (Trxus MT) after the bumpers which required more trimming than the tires.

Turning radius is better with the 235/85s, but you suffer loss of power (at least in my case).
 

Wicks (Wicks)
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Post Number: 36
Registered: 03-2003
Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2003 - 07:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

We don't have Discos, but you can check out the 235/85 size on my D90 and Jason's mint Classic. We definitely preferred the 235/85 after examining lots of options.

Click on the cars to get to their pages and click the various tire links.

www.kangol.net/lwb
 

Wicks (Wicks)
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Post Number: 37
Registered: 03-2003
Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2003 - 07:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Oh, and consider the Dueler MT instead. Works good on the road for an MT. Not as good for braking is all.
 

Drew Porta (Ncrover)
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Registered: 05-2003
Posted on Wednesday, May 14, 2003 - 02:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Guys,

Thanks for the replies and input. Still trying to decide on tires, but I did add the Dunlop Rover R/T to my list.

But, it sounds like either tire size will work on the street and light trails. I don't plan to attempt harder trails until the Disco is set up properly, but I don't want to have to buy another set of tires at that point and I need new tires now. (These are the O.E. tires that are probably 6 - 7 years old and have never seen a garage. Basically, they are bald, cracking, and like to hydroplane!)

I think I'll probably add to my list that I need to roll the inside edge/lip of my fenders too or trim them off with the die grinder and then roll. Actually, the Tire Rack used to have a tool just for rolling fenders, but its usually you have to get on a waiting list for a while before you can use it.)

Any other ideas/comments? Taking the tire plunge on Wednesday!

Thanks in advance.
 

Robert Sublett (Rubisco98)
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Post Number: 841
Registered: 04-2002
Posted on Wednesday, May 14, 2003 - 06:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I've got the Yoko Geolander AT+IIs in 245/75/16 for daily use, very very nice road manners.. I had gotten so used to MTs on the road I forgot that the Disco can actually handle pretty well.. I bought them at http://www.tires.com and they even had free shipping and same as cash financing. I'm thinking it came out to saving around $20-40 over the tire rack which usually gets all my business..
 

Nadim Samara (Discodino)
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Post Number: 53
Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Wednesday, May 14, 2003 - 08:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Can one fit 275/70 R 16 Scorpion ST with an OME 2" lift?
 

Drew Porta (Ncrover)
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Post Number: 7
Registered: 05-2003
Posted on Wednesday, May 14, 2003 - 09:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Thanks again guys. In searching the archives (I'm still new to DiscoWeb) I found alot of positive comments on the Dunlops. So, I ordered a set of 5 today in size 235/85 and will have them installed next week.
 

Erik Olson (Jon)
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Post Number: 385
Registered: 02-2002
Posted on Wednesday, May 14, 2003 - 10:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Drew,

I'll also put in a good word for the Rover R/Ts. I've had them on for about 15k miles now, with 2200 of those off-road. They're quiet on-road and feel very sticky on rock surfaces - did great at Moab.

Pics in the gallery and I also paid about $105 mounted / balanced. Any Dunlop shop can order them, but may have to look it up - don't let them try to push the A/T on you!

Cheers,

e

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