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Peter Odio (Peterodio)
New Member Username: Peterodio
Post Number: 5 Registered: 05-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, May 14, 2003 - 02:54 pm: |
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OK, maybe I�m the worst mechanic...that something that I will not argue, but I followed the instructions on the TECH section of this site titled �Fixing non functional rear windows by Don Herrero� and was able to successfully repair the rear windows malfunction, the problem was that after the job was done the CAR DID NOT START, it was towed ($ 98) to the Newport Beach Land Rover dealer and the alarm system was replaced ($ 498), I still do not know what went wrong. |
   
Blue (Blue)
Senior Member Username: Blue
Post Number: 35 Registered: 04-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, May 14, 2003 - 03:03 pm: |
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ouch send Danno the bill |
   
Peter Matusov (Pmatusov)
Senior Member Username: Pmatusov
Post Number: 746 Registered: 09-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, May 14, 2003 - 07:17 pm: |
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Peter, how about this- whatever you did there, jammed the window motor or door lock actuator. If you tried to open/close the window or door locks, the fuse (or two) blew in the panel under the dash. Two of these fuses power the alarm unit (a.k.a. spider?), and if any of them is blown, it will not let the Disco start. I'd say your engine was turning over but not starting - was it how it was? peter |
   
Roland Kutasi (Disco1)
Member Username: Disco1
Post Number: 144 Registered: 10-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, May 14, 2003 - 07:25 pm: |
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If only the fuse was blown, why did the dealer have to replace the alarm system? |
   
Blue (Blue)
Senior Member Username: Blue
Post Number: 40 Registered: 04-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, May 14, 2003 - 07:33 pm: |
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maybe because Peter had his checkbook open.... |
   
Jonathan Hensel (Nanoscale)
Member Username: Nanoscale
Post Number: 64 Registered: 03-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, May 14, 2003 - 09:00 pm: |
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You sure you didn't have the same problem I had getting the connector off the board and yank the crap out of it? Short the board out on metal or something? I did that fix, had one of my nimble fingered Laotian ladies at work do the soldering for me so "solderblobjohnny" didn't bridge 10 traces together, and it works fine. |
   
Peter Matusov (Pmatusov)
Senior Member Username: Pmatusov
Post Number: 748 Registered: 09-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, May 14, 2003 - 09:00 pm: |
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Roland, my disco would not start unless the battery was dis- and re-connected. The dealer (Pioneer Centres in San Diego, CA) charged me $311 for four days' worth of troubleshooting effort. The diagnosis was - I needed a new ECU. Guess what... I tracked down the wiring from the alarm unit, and found two blown fuses. Would've found them right away, if I didn't think the dealer's guys had it done. All works now... And no, the dealer did not refund me $311, neither acknowledged receiving my letter. I was out of steam to push the issue - but I don't trust ANY of the guys there. peter |
   
Yaroslav (Andr6761)
Member Username: Andr6761
Post Number: 42 Registered: 07-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, May 14, 2003 - 10:11 pm: |
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all dealers are the same...they are retarded and way expensive, an independent mechanic is the way to go... |
   
Alan Yim (Alan)
Senior Member Username: Alan
Post Number: 461 Registered: 09-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, May 14, 2003 - 11:27 pm: |
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if you can find one... |
   
Kinnie van Eeden (Yenza)
New Member Username: Yenza
Post Number: 8 Registered: 05-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, May 14, 2003 - 11:42 pm: |
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Dealers? Some of them are called "stealers" around here Kinnie www.yenzatours.com |
   
james duplease (Jduplease)
New Member Username: Jduplease
Post Number: 6 Registered: 04-2003
| Posted on Thursday, May 15, 2003 - 12:03 am: |
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Peter, I would never go to the dealer. The only place I take my vehicle is The Rover Group right off of mir mar and carol rd in San Diego. |
   
Ron Brown (Ron)
Senior Member Username: Ron
Post Number: 353 Registered: 04-2001
| Posted on Thursday, May 15, 2003 - 12:07 am: |
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"all dealers are the same...they are retarded and way expensive" We may be expensive but we are not ALL retarded Ron |
   
Jason Bard (Jbard)
Member Username: Jbard
Post Number: 221 Registered: 10-2002
| Posted on Thursday, May 15, 2003 - 12:35 am: |
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Touche, Ron. LOL |
   
Roland Kutasi (Disco1)
Member Username: Disco1
Post Number: 147 Registered: 10-2002
| Posted on Thursday, May 15, 2003 - 06:34 am: |
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Hi Peter, It's hard to find the right mechanic that understands LR's, that you can trust and doesn't rip you off. My experience with dealers (once) is that when you take in your vehicle more often than not, the apprentice gets to work on it, which helps explain why you have to return the vehicle a number of times to get the same problem sorted, which aggreviates and angers the owner. Because of the large overheads that dealers have, coupled with the fact that they usually get screwed on price when selling the vehicle it's not surprising that they need to generate revenue any way they can. I'm surprised you were out of steam to push the issue. Roland. (your old sparing partner)
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Peter Sharratt (Gummikuh)
Member Username: Gummikuh
Post Number: 117 Registered: 02-2003
| Posted on Thursday, May 15, 2003 - 07:16 am: |
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Hi Peter If nothing else I would demand the return of the old ECU. You could then put it on e-bay and claw back some of your misery. You have proved there is nothing wrong with it! Here in the UK they have to keep all changed parts and offer them to you if you so desire, makes them think twice about screwing people. If you had problems why did you not ask for help here? most guys here are more than happy to help. Anyway its done now, Best of luck Pete S |
   
Blue (Blue)
Senior Member Username: Blue
Post Number: 44 Registered: 04-2003
| Posted on Thursday, May 15, 2003 - 11:48 am: |
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I'm changing my name to Peter. -Peter P.S. it's not nice to insult retarded people  |
   
Jack Quinlan (Jsq)
Senior Member Username: Jsq
Post Number: 286 Registered: 10-2002
| Posted on Thursday, May 15, 2003 - 02:14 pm: |
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Here's where, once again, I stick up for pioneer centres. Deal with Sean Puno and you will be happy. If Andy from OZ is the one doing the work you will be happy. They give me lots of free time and advice and always point out the cheapest route or anything that I can do myself. There are three of us at my office who take our discos to Pioneer and none of us purchased them there. I'm not saying you can't have a bad experience, but we have all had a really good one. just my $0.02 |
   
Jack Quinlan (Jsq)
Senior Member Username: Jsq
Post Number: 287 Registered: 10-2002
| Posted on Thursday, May 15, 2003 - 02:15 pm: |
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In fact, one time I bought both those guys porterhouse steaks because they had done so much stuff for free and I had to repay them some how. |