| Author | Message | ||
     slider (Slider) New Member Username: Slider Post Number: 7 Registered: 04-2003 |
Hey guys, here's the deal: I have RTE drop cones and 2" springs... been through 2 sets of RS9000 (9234 to be exact) in the last year... I was told that this is a good, long travel shock that works with RTE upper shock mount relocation mount...when you don't change the lower mount.. It's also the shock that's used on Ford F150 pickups 97-01. You should see the lying I had to do to get replacements!!! I keep blowing this shock out!!! Not heavy duty enough (I guess) for a loaded Disco...that tows heavy loads with lots of toungue wieght! Someone suggested the Pro-Comp es 3000 as a good middle of the road shock that's used on a lot of lifted rovers?? Which model though??!!! You'd think...Ford F150...right? BUT...I think it should be for a 250 or 1 ton P'up? Just for the duty level... I don't know what to do... I need a long travel shock (and part #) that will let the springs drop on a 2" lifted disco...using RTE upper mounts. Slider | ||
| Chris Marcel (Gumarcel) Senior Member Username: Gumarcel Post Number: 388 Registered: 11-2002 |
I have never had ranchos, but i have heard they are pretty crappy. You could try bilstein shocks, i have heard good things about them. I haven't heard anything about procomp either. | ||
| slider (Slider) New Member Username: Slider Post Number: 10 Registered: 04-2003 |
I need part numbers here on what works... I know many of you have the same set up! | ||
| Greg Hirst (Gregh) Member Username: Gregh Post Number: 186 Registered: 10-2002 |
Go with Bilsteins or OME's. You won't be sorry. Some others have had good results with Black Diamond XT's but I have no experience with them. I don't even know if Warn makes them for your application. | ||
| Chris Marcel (Gumarcel) Senior Member Username: Gumarcel Post Number: 389 Registered: 11-2002 |
I would vote for OME, i have the rovertym 2" wiht OME HD all around, its great, just a thought | ||
| James (Jimmyg) Senior Member Username: Jimmyg Post Number: 268 Registered: 10-2002 |
OME won't allow the correct articulation (with the shocks you all speak of) with cones. | ||
| James (Jimmyg) Senior Member Username: Jimmyg Post Number: 271 Registered: 10-2002 |
I had good luck with Rancho 9234's and Slider...You will not be running a long travel shock with 2-3 inces of lift. Long travel in my mind is 12 inch at least. | ||
| Nadim Samara (Discodino) Member Username: Discodino Post Number: 54 Registered: 02-2003 |
go OME N76 in the rear. soft, but great! | ||
| slider (Slider) New Member Username: Slider Post Number: 11 Registered: 04-2003 |
the 9234's have 10.875" of travel... 16.125 compressed length 27" extended I need to match this...so my drop cones drop, but not too much either. Does he OME have this travel and roughly these dimensions? | ||
| Mike Rupp (Mike_rupp) Member Username: Mike_rupp Post Number: 188 Registered: 02-2002 |
Slider, I went through the same thing. Here's my old setup: 2" springs, RTE upper mounts, cones, 9234s. I blew out 2 sets of 9234s in the last 10K miles. I noticed that when I took the shocks off, the stud mounts were bent slightly. Since the RTE mounts are moved forward also, the bottom mounts on the axle are no longer perpendicular to the top mount. This can't be a good thing. This isn't an issue with the RTE 3" lift since the bottom mounts are eye mounts and allow the shock to rotate. My brother has had the 3" RTE lift for about 25K miles and no problems witht the rear Ranchos. Here's a comparison of the N76 and 9234: Compressed Extended Travel OME N76 Rear 16.06 26.97 10.91 Rancho 9234 16.25 27.25 11.00 They should fit in place pretty well using the same setup, but keep in mind that the N76 uses an eyelet mount on the bottom which will require a new mount and might change the dimensions. | ||
| Neil Flanagan (Electriceel) Member Username: Electriceel Post Number: 109 Registered: 02-2002 |
You are running the 9234's upside down. Running the shock upside down interferes with the valving at the end of the shock regardless of what Rancho says. Its simple hydrodynamics. They will work ok but flip them back over and they will work much better. | ||
| slider (Slider) New Member Username: Slider Post Number: 14 Registered: 04-2003 |
mike rupp... finally, someone who knows what I'm talking about! What makes the 3" lift different at the axle end?? A new shock mount?...IS that a cut and re-weld job? Neil Are you sure I'm running them upside down??? Hydrodynamics sound right...But why would Rancho put the valving knob on the axle end? currently the valve knob is at the top (chassis side) of the shock...you think this is wrong? | ||
| Mike Bauer (Mikeb) New Member Username: Mikeb Post Number: 27 Registered: 02-2003 |
Slider: I too have the 9324's with a 2" RoverTym Lift with the RTE drop cones. My shocks are bad too. Hopefully someone will have a viable suggestion for to this problem. I really like the long travel of the 9234's. Thanks, Mike B. | ||
| Neil Flanagan (Electriceel) Member Username: Electriceel Post Number: 116 Registered: 02-2002 |
Yep. I'm sure. On the RS9234, the eye is the bottom and the stud is the top, same as the F150's they are made for. I ran the RTE upper mounts with the RS9234 for a while on the Disco...until they self destruct. Boing boing boing...then the next thing you know is your rear tires are sitting in puddles of HTE oil. Rancho will replace them for free. | ||
| Neil Flanagan (Electriceel) Member Username: Electriceel Post Number: 117 Registered: 02-2002 |
"Hopefully someone will have a viable suggestion for to this problem." I think John already has a mount to flip them. give him a call. | ||
| slider (Slider) New Member Username: Slider Post Number: 15 Registered: 04-2003 |
Rancho will replace them?...thier laws say no warrenty on lifted trucks....and thier distibutors suck... this is the third time!! I had to lie and say they were going on the Ford 1st and 2nd time... only to find out... Advance Auto Parts (my distributor) says they will only replace them once?!! sound right? | ||
| Chris Marcel (Gumarcel) Senior Member Username: Gumarcel Post Number: 390 Registered: 11-2002 |
don't ranchos have a lifetime warrenty? | ||
| Eddie (Honu) Member Username: Honu Post Number: 116 Registered: 01-2003 |
slider you do have your rear shocks mounted upside down. send your shocks directly to rancho if the shop hassles you to much. there not losing anything, you can send them back yourself. just a phone call to them all that is needed. | ||
| Shaun Power (Shaunp) New Member Username: Shaunp Post Number: 14 Registered: 05-2003 |
Heaps of people here in Australia have broken Ranchos and as a result they have a bad name here. The dealers here seem to replace them ok but you just break them again. Most people seem happy with OME and Koni. The OME units are soft because they are single acting, this is to allow less resistance to articulation. | ||
| Chris Marcel (Gumarcel) Senior Member Username: Gumarcel Post Number: 391 Registered: 11-2002 |
http://www.discoweb.org/thewindow/rancho.jpg Is that the problem? | ||
| slider (Slider) New Member Username: Slider Post Number: 17 Registered: 04-2003 |
no...that's not the problem... it's an internal thing...the fluid / piston inside has lost all resistance! |
