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     Chad Mayes (Cmayes) New Member Username: Cmayes Post Number: 25 Registered: 04-2003 |
My wife has been after me to sell my disco... I drive 35-miles to work everyday, making gas expensive. Now I really don't want to sell my truck. But, there is a guy coming to look at it today. I'm curious on everyone's thoughts... It's a 95 with all the bells from the factory, plus: ARB-Lockers front & rear, ARB bumper, X9 winch, Old Man Emu Susp, Full Safari Rack, Seat covers, Factor 6-disc, jump-seats, Hella lights, CB radio, running well and in good shape. Needs tires. Now that you know the background I listed it at 11,500. I told my wife that I wouldn't take a penny less. If this guy will pay full price is it worth selling? When my commute changes could I get into a comparable Rover for less? Any feedback would be helpful Thanks. | ||
| Jack Quinlan (Jsq) Senior Member Username: Jsq Post Number: 283 Registered: 10-2002 |
you might think about parting out some of the higher ticket items as well as selling it. You could sell your two ARBs and compressor to someone who would also give you stock differentials. The rack is also a high demand item that sells for a bit. Leave the bumper and winch, as they make the truck an attractive buy but don't sell well as used. Also sell the cd player. they bring in some money as well. You could make a good little side profit as well as selling your truck. As a package the mods don't do much for the price and 11.5k is a bit high for a '95, probably with hi miles. as they say here on d-web, "the vultures are circling" | ||
| Jack Quinlan (Jsq) Senior Member Username: Jsq Post Number: 284 Registered: 10-2002 |
p.s. guess who's interested in your ARBs? | ||
| Swamp Pappy (Swamp_pappy) New Member Username: Swamp_pappy Post Number: 16 Registered: 05-2003 |
Chad: The price seems reasonable for what I've seen. Mileage wasn't listed in your description. If the mileage is average and your rig aint beat to shyt, then the Price is Right! I get about 12mpg going down hill, but I'm not looking to driving no Geo Metro. How much do you think you'll save on gas - is it really worth it to sell it? Even if you get a Ford Focus, you can save what $60.00 per month? My commute is about the same and it don't make me none. Don't tell me your wife has you looking at some Japanese piss can! At least buy a Ford or Chevy commuter - too much of that Tokyo Street Racer crap on our roadways as it is. I wish you the best of luck either way. | ||
| Brian Dickens (Bri) Senior Member Username: Bri Post Number: 375 Registered: 08-2002 |
Just as an FYI, there are quite a few '95 out there for well under $10k. KBB says blue book is about $6800 for 80k miles somewhat standard equiped. I have seen recently '95s for 4500 to 6500 for models with 80-100k miles, many never been offroad. | ||
| Jack Quinlan (Jsq) Senior Member Username: Jsq Post Number: 285 Registered: 10-2002 |
hey swamp, do you even have a rover? I thought you were just looking to buy. If the price looks right to you then you need glasses. As Brian said, KBB is approx. 6800 for that truck and as anyone will tell you, discos aint even goin for blue book these days. check your facts. I may want chad to drop the lockers so I can buy them but everything I said was true. His truck isn't worth much and he can get 600 for the rack and 275 for the cd and whatever I will pay for the ARBs. Meanwhile the price of his truck doesn't change hardly at all without these items. | ||
| Andy Thoma (Andythoma) Member Username: Andythoma Post Number: 231 Registered: 01-2003 |
I agree with swampy, I have a 95 too and commute just as far. I was considering selling it for a cheaper commutter. I would save maybe $50 a month on gas and maybe $30 a month on insurance for something like a stripper Jetta. Thing is I would then have lost my ablity to go off road. I wish I could wheel everyday, but I get out often enough I would miss not having a truck to wheel. I know the history of this truck and it is a good truck. A used car can be trading a good disco in for a pos lemon. My thing I realized is I need to stop spending money on modifing it. Your wife is looking at the fact you spent thousands on mods for wheeling, not to just drive the truck. Sure a nice plain jane commutter, jetta, malibu, focus, civic, might seem cheaper, but its probably because your not dropping $2k into lockers for it. My goal is to pay off my wifes car, get her a new one, use hers as a commutter, and keep my discovery as a wheeling, expedition, camping truck. What I need to do is minimize spending the truck to maintence, repairs, then slow modification, like one toy per year. | ||
| Swamp Pappy (Swamp_pappy) New Member Username: Swamp_pappy Post Number: 17 Registered: 05-2003 |
Jack: No need to get crazy. I think the price looks good based on eBay and AutoTrader that's all. Granted, Chad may not get much for the mods he's added, but if his Disco is in good condition as he states, then I see the price as down-right reasonable. I'd like him to see him get whathe feels is fair for it or not sell at all. Again, mileage was not stated, so I asked about that. This alone can brnig the price down to where yuo stated. No, I don't own a LR - is that a problem? I don't like your tone boy [saying do I EVEN own a LR] - you beter calm your ass down even though I know some geeks like to talk trash on the Net. I'm not some punk kid that you can run your mouth to. Now I come here nice and polite and freindly with foks, so get that shyt straight and let's get on with being cordial to one another. | ||
| Dan Armbruster (Dan_armbruster) Member Username: Dan_armbruster Post Number: 147 Registered: 04-2003 |
Swamp Pappy- You have some very interesting views and thoughts for a newby to LR. I'm no veteran by any means, but granted I do own a disco. No offense, but isn't it hard for you to comment on questions about a disco without owning one? BTW- what's wrong with a jap car if it's efficient and lasts forever? | ||
| Swamp Pappy (Swamp_pappy) New Member Username: Swamp_pappy Post Number: 18 Registered: 05-2003 |
Dan: I nkow vehciel prices by simply looking at eBay or AutoTrader. I'm interested in buying a LR and that's why I'm here. You don't have to own a LR to know what the market value is and that is what this specific thread is about. I been real nice since day one here: #1 - Look at all my posts if you want; #2 - Look at who started in with being rude up above. It was Mr. Quinlan. My patring words were that we should get on with being cordial. I'm no f**king geek that likes arguing on the Net. If I got somethnig to say to somebody I much rather say it in person - that's all. I got no grudge or ill feelings to anybody here, it's small-time stuff far as I'm concerned. Now, the question remains - you think I have no right to talk in the GENERAL DISCUSION area cause I don't own a LR? Shy, it's not like I'm giving out Tech. advice. | ||
| Jack Quinlan (Jsq) Senior Member Username: Jsq Post Number: 288 Registered: 10-2002 |
Swamp, I recognize that my tone was a little condescending, but net geek is hardly an apt moniker for myself. While I agree that owning a disco is not the qualifier for posting in the GNT area, your own post have indicated only a very brief interest in Land Rovers. Some of us have been following their pricing for years and are what you might call in tune with the market. I watch the prices constantly even though I'm not buying. I'm always looking for friends or making other recommendations. I'd tell Chad that if he can get 11.5k he should definitely take it. I would be most suprised. Clearly his buyer is overestimating the value. If you're in the market for a disco and his is such a good deal, why aren't you buying it? Owning a LR doesn't make you an expert, but neither does a limited glance at Autotrader. I just notice this thread also exist in Tech and people are giving much the same advice. either: A)part it and sell it B)keep it nobody is saying it's worth 11.5k I'll try to keep my tone polite, but if you wander into a LR board and start telling people what is what, you better know what you're talking about if you want them to take you seriously. give a glance in the Classifieds for Sale to find out what a modified disco goes for. regards, Jack | ||
| Swamp Pappy (Swamp_pappy) New Member Username: Swamp_pappy Post Number: 20 Registered: 05-2003 |
Jack: The net geek thing was meant as an all-around thing - not to you. "Some geeks like to talk trash on the Net." I come across too many kids that get their kicks off runnnig their mouth behind the safety of their computer - that's about it. I wanted to say we shouldn't get to fighting over Internet stuff. I checked back on eBay and I must admit you're spot-on with the price stuff. Looks like the '97s or mostly '98s is where the price hike occurs. My main response to Chad was more as a guy who also loves his rig. He feels like his price should be firm, so I was hoping to see him get that. Otherwise, I hate to see his old lady give him grief for keeping it. Life's too short to worry on $60.00 a month for gas. Wheeling is just too damn fun. Besides the gas prices are fixin to come down once Iraq gets cranking again. That Saddam bastard got his ass rightfully kicked and now we want some discounts for all the shit he put our brave soldiers through. | ||
| Dan Armbruster (Dan_armbruster) Member Username: Dan_armbruster Post Number: 149 Registered: 04-2003 |
To Swamp- I'm not saying that you must own a disco to post on here, but the values of discos are very hard to estimate. A quick glance at autotrader is barely a start. I looked and studied prices of discos a full year before I purchased my 98 LE with 25k. And what is wrong with a foreign daily commuter. LR's are made in England btw- Not looking to start a 2005 disco thread! | ||
| Swamp Pappy (Swamp_pappy) New Member Username: Swamp_pappy Post Number: 21 Registered: 05-2003 |
Dan: I'm naturally a dumb son of a, so check my post to Jack above on the price thing. As for Japanese cars - well, do as you will. It's America and you can drive a Korean car if it makes you feel good. I couldn't fit in a Japanese car anyhow. Land Rover is owned by Ford and even so I said before that the Brits have always done well by me and the USA. I have a whole lot of respect for the Brits, they helped my dad kick ass in the 2nd big 'un. All right then | ||
| Steve R (Barton) Member Username: Barton Post Number: 117 Registered: 02-2003 |
Hey guys...stop your bitching...this is beginning to sound/look like the freakin' H2 forum! As far as selling your beloved LR: F that!!!! I'll give ya $12K right now!! Don't do it...most people think that because you've customized it and made it into a "unique" vehicle....you'll have to take a loss and not get the value out of your investment. Normally that IS the case. Somebody thinks they'll sweep in and pick up all that great mod stuff for pennies. Gas prices are coming down and who knows how low they may go. If you buy a new car you'll have to pay taxes, registration and begin getting to know a whole new vehicle. I'm no psychic....but I'm telling you...if you sell it, your going to regret having sold your rig for years to come. Even later when you buy a new one...you'll miss it and wish you hadn't. You may also have unresolved issues that could psychologically affect you...and your marriage. What would become of your family? What kind of example are you setting for your kids? For the sake of holy matrimony and the integrity of your family...don't sell your LR! Are you going to let those Opec bastards change YOUR way of life? Don't you want to celebrate your patriotic duty to endulge in freedom and Liberty and drive what YOU want? There are some things in life that can be cut back on and compromised...but this is NOT one of them. I'm going to trust you do the right thing here.... | ||
| BW (Bwallace35) Member Username: Bwallace35 Post Number: 60 Registered: 07-2002 |
Keep the LR, buy a Harley for the commute, tell the wife that life is too short. She'll get over it. If she doesn't, so what . . . you'll still have the DISCO and Harley. Dr. Phil | ||
| Roland Kutasi (Disco1) Member Username: Disco1 Post Number: 162 Registered: 10-2002 |
Buy the wife her own car....  | ||
| Jason Bard (Jbard) Member Username: Jbard Post Number: 232 Registered: 10-2002 |
Steve, that brought a tear to my eye. Rock on brother!  | ||
| gp (Garrett) Senior Member Username: Garrett Post Number: 2098 Registered: 10-2001 |
you will go to hell!!  | ||
| Steve R (Barton) Member Username: Barton Post Number: 118 Registered: 02-2003 |
Thanks J-sin! I myself was confronted with what I suspected was the need to aquire a more conventional/fuel-efficient vehicle for driving.....you know...trying to get away from the 11.7 mpg I've been getting. I was looking at one of those cute little Honda S2000's...you know...the sporty little number with the 6-speed t-box. Heck...that little thing is rated to get about 20 mpg. Since I drive about 6,500 miles per year...check out the numbers: vehicle getting 11.7 mpg uses 555 gallons, at $1.75 a gallon it's costing $971 pr year. Vehicle getting 20 mpg uses 325 gallons, at $1.75 a gallon it's costing $569 pr year. Despite the fact that the more efficient vehicleis is what greenies would call nearly twice as efficient...we're only talking a difference of $400 for a whole year. That doesn't cover even HALF the cost of having to pay for minimum req'd liability insurance policy for a second vehicle! Let's not forget other cost when purchasing another vehicle: taxes, registration, etc. And as I pointed out...gas prices are dropping!!!! | ||
| Brad Russell (Bradnc) Senior Member Username: Bradnc Post Number: 283 Registered: 03-2002 |
"I get about 12mpg going down hill, but I'm not looking to driving no Geo Metro." Is it just me or does that not imply that he owns a rover, when in fact he doesn't? And I'm sure he'll say just because he said 12 mpg doesn't mean it's on a rover, but on a rover board anything that fits the general discription of a rover is to be taken as a rover unless otherwise noted... My $.02 | ||
| Dan Armbruster (Dan_armbruster) Member Username: Dan_armbruster Post Number: 154 Registered: 04-2003 |
Brad that was well put buddy- Either a rover or hummer | ||
| Steve R (Barton) Member Username: Barton Post Number: 122 Registered: 02-2003 |
give me a sec...let me clear my throat (or stretch my fingers)...okay, here we go: just because he said 12 mpg doesn't mean it's on a rover, but on a rover board anything that fits the general discription of a rover is to be taken as a rover unless otherwise noted... You're right Brad...I said exactly what you were sure I'd say....but you have to ask yourself...would I have said that if you had not told me that I'd say it? Sound clever?...don't be impressed....I stole that from "The Matrix".  I would like to submit a plea of "guilty" and throw myself at the mercy of this court (that would be Carter of course). I was figuring the difference between 12mpg and 11.7mpg would certainly be a distinguishing characteristic deliniating the Rover from the Hummer. Okay...for real: I figured we're talking about dealing with vehicles that get poor gas mileage. I didn't see the need to point out that mine was a Hummer or LR...they both suck gas and for all intents and purposes present the same problem. I figure sooner or later someone is going to tell me they're sick of hearing about my Hummer this, my Hummer that, etc...so here was a situation that didn't require making reference to my vehicle as anything more then a gas sucker. It's like....wow man...there ya go having to "label" everything. | ||
| M. K. Watson (Lrover94) Senior Member Username: Lrover94 Post Number: 776 Registered: 02-2002 |
dude, your price is good, no matter what book or alleged expert may say. its your truck, it has your value, price it for what ever you want and drive it it until it sales. mike w | ||
| Mark Albrecht (Markalbrecht) Member Username: Markalbrecht Post Number: 83 Registered: 11-2002 |
Steve R -- in your calculations you forgot to decrease the per gallon gas price for the Honda. No need to put premium in a Honda. Not too significant a difference, but now you can fairly compare apples to oranges. | ||
| Paul Long (Humveewannabe) New Member Username: Humveewannabe Post Number: 35 Registered: 03-2003 |
Just agree with her to sell it, since the new girl at work has a new Rover that she'll let you drive to satisfy your urges. | ||
| Steve R (Barton) Member Username: Barton Post Number: 123 Registered: 02-2003 |
LR's need premuim? | ||
| Jack Parker (Jack) Member Username: Jack Post Number: 157 Registered: 03-2002 |
D2's require premium. Shit, what's another $5.00 per fill-up? Get a membership at Costco, let the wife spend mucho dinero inside, while you're at the pump saving .25 per gallon in the rover. Filled up today in Denver, premium at Costco was $1.49/gallon, which is a big savings over the prices where I live, which is $1.89~$1.99 gallon. Driving home, I encounter the roughest section of pavement that would rattle most vehicles windows out. The discovery chugs on through like a tank, no rattles, vibrations, etc. - the gas mileage is what it is for a solidly built, heavy, multi-purpose vehicle. | ||
| Joe Wooten (Joe_w) New Member Username: Joe_w Post Number: 18 Registered: 02-2003 |
Chad, Assuming that you offroad in the Disco, as the mods you've made indicate, how would you get your fix if you sell it? It's a hell of a lot more than just transportation. I don't know how you can even think about giving up the Disco. I think you would regret it. Driving a Rover makes me feel unique and special. Not just another tin can on the roadway. Worth every penny of the gas. I'm just glad my wife understands and appreciates my hobby turned obsession. Your post makes me want to go out and buy her some flowers. Joe | ||
| Scion_of_lucas (Scion_of_lucas) New Member Username: Scion_of_lucas Post Number: 2 Registered: 03-2003 |
Chad, Take off the skirt, put down the "Men are from Mars/Women are from Venus", turn off Lifetime, forget about feeling fresh and KEEP THE DISCO. My wife drives her D1 40 miles a day (complete with gas wasting 32"s, extra weight of TJM front & rear bumpers, OME lift, 5 speed) and she would kick my ass if I even looked sideways at it. She'd take the D90 but the heat's not working. | ||
| Swamp Pappy (Swamp_pappy) New Member Username: Swamp_pappy Post Number: 24 Registered: 05-2003 |
Brad: Looks like you joined the exchange late - I had already said that I drive a '83 K5 Blazer [in other thread]. Much like your LR it gets crap mileage. My point was the same as what Steve R said later on; the savings over a year doesn't amount to squat unless you drive the hell out of her. | ||
| Blue (Blue) Senior Member Username: Blue Post Number: 57 Registered: 04-2003 |
Yeah, Chad...lose the skirt and put a 12-gauge slug through that Lifetime-playin tv crapbox. Put a pretty woman who appreciates you & your rover in the passenger seat and go wheelin. Life is too short to be consumed with counting the pennies you'll save (or lose) by selling the rover to get a "smarter" car. No offense to you or your wife, but I'll bet that she consumes more resources per month (as a direct cost to you) than the Disco. Hell, you don't even need to put a roof over the Disco's head and it'll be happy. You do the math and draw your own conclusions.... | ||
| Steve R (Barton) Member Username: Barton Post Number: 127 Registered: 02-2003 |
hey man....I'm seeing prices having dropped from 2.17 down to 1.71....that's .46 cents and almost back to typical. Not only should you keep the LR, but consider adding that low-mpg roof rack....the one with the forward-facing parabolic dish! YEAH BABY....gas crunch is over!!! | ||
| Chad Mayes (Cmayes) Member Username: Cmayes Post Number: 42 Registered: 04-2003 |
Not to worry. The sale is off. We've decided to either move North or West. Both areas with better trails and a definite need for a good rig. Thanks for all the responses. | ||
| Enoch Snyder (Esnyder) Member Username: Esnyder Post Number: 62 Registered: 10-2002 |
I don't think Swamp Pappy actually exists, I think he is Kyle's alter ego... | ||
| Zach Jaggers (Mountenn) Member Username: Mountenn Post Number: 83 Registered: 03-2003 |
I agree...I've been noticing patterns... |
