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Thomas Dahbura (U352)
Member Username: U352
Post Number: 112 Registered: 10-2002
| Posted on Monday, May 19, 2003 - 01:29 pm: |
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http://www.bvlr.com/browse.php?page=os&car=829 |
   
Alan Bates (Alanb)
Member Username: Alanb
Post Number: 180 Registered: 07-2002
| Posted on Monday, May 19, 2003 - 02:04 pm: |
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Only $60,000, I'll take two please. Sorry, but thats one ugly ass vehicle. I don't think a bling bling rapper would even be caught in it. Should rename it "LaFuglyPieceOfCrap". |
   
Thomas Dahbura (U352)
Member Username: U352
Post Number: 113 Registered: 10-2002
| Posted on Monday, May 19, 2003 - 03:32 pm: |
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It is ugly now that I look at it again. |
   
-bob- (Xavetarx)
Member Username: Xavetarx
Post Number: 83 Registered: 01-2003
| Posted on Monday, May 19, 2003 - 04:50 pm: |
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looks kinda like a geo tracker |
   
Alan Bates (Alanb)
Member Username: Alanb
Post Number: 181 Registered: 07-2002
| Posted on Monday, May 19, 2003 - 05:09 pm: |
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No Bob, geo tracker looks much better :-) If they think they are going to sell that POS for $60,000 they are nuts, or the buyer is on crack. What have they been smoking at bvlandrovers. |
   
Blue (Blue)
Senior Member Username: Blue
Post Number: 56 Registered: 04-2003
| Posted on Monday, May 19, 2003 - 06:02 pm: |
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I passed a Laforza on the road yesterday. The stock Laforzas don't look too bad, but that pimp daddy laforza is butt-ugly. Looks like a riced-out Ford F-150 from the front. Just the look I want to achieve for 60k.... |
   
Thomas Dahbura (U352)
Member Username: U352
Post Number: 114 Registered: 10-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, May 20, 2003 - 07:47 am: |
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I saw a local guy selling a 1999 Range Rover so I stopped to take a look at it. No one was around so I started checking the Rover out and saw he had a not describing the vehicle and a price of $66K on it. I shit my pants. Some people. |
   
gp (Garrett)
Senior Member Username: Garrett
Post Number: 2106 Registered: 10-2001
| Posted on Tuesday, May 20, 2003 - 09:26 am: |
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looks like the POS is sporting Pep Boys wheel cover. damn that is bad.  |
   
_JC_ (_jc_)
New Member Username: _jc_
Post Number: 13 Registered: 03-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, May 20, 2003 - 08:54 pm: |
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Woah, that Explorer just got assfucked by a Range Rover |
   
Tim (Snowman)
Senior Member Username: Snowman
Post Number: 436 Registered: 12-2002
| Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2003 - 10:29 am: |
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BVLR has quite a nice website and what looks like a generous supply of quality pre-owned Rovers. What I find more amazing is they advertise a house to stay in when you fly in to pick up a truck. Anyone else notice that? Generally you are lucky if you get a free key fob from a dealer. |
   
Thomas Dahbura (U352)
Member Username: U352
Post Number: 117 Registered: 10-2002
| Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2003 - 11:26 am: |
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I have wanted to buy a Rover from them for a while. I have yet to hear anything bad about them, which is pretty cool. |
   
Alan Bates (Alanb)
Member Username: Alanb
Post Number: 188 Registered: 07-2002
| Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2003 - 11:33 am: |
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I have been checking their rover's out too, their prices for Range Rovers are high, even higher than my local dealer, Disco prices are fair though, but somebody's got to pay for that huge house. |
   
Phillip Perkinson (Rover4x4)
Member Username: Rover4x4
Post Number: 226 Registered: 02-2003
| Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2003 - 09:58 pm: |
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thats like a tahoe/rr/silverado or something wierd. what are people thinking.. |
   
Dan Armbruster (Dan_armbruster)
Member Username: Dan_armbruster
Post Number: 171 Registered: 04-2003
| Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2003 - 10:42 pm: |
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For 60k I'm going with a 03' RR or a used H1 or Gwagen. What the LaFucka is that? |
   
Dan Armbruster (Dan_armbruster)
Member Username: Dan_armbruster
Post Number: 172 Registered: 04-2003
| Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2003 - 10:46 pm: |
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Just add Chapman's homemade catcher's mask and it's a trail ready rig. I would like to see his H1 though. Those do have badass grille guards. |
   
Patrick Downs (Willtel)
New Member Username: Willtel
Post Number: 1 Registered: 05-2003
| Posted on Friday, May 23, 2003 - 03:47 pm: |
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BVLR does have some pretty nice stock but they are a bit overpriced. I went there (I'm local) when I was in the market for my LWB and they were nice until decided to entertain the idea of trading in my GTI. They offered me 1/3 of what I ended up selling my GTI for. I know they aren't in the used VW business but I was a little miffed. I told him he had a deal if he would knock off $4000 on the LWB I was looking at. He didn't budge. He said the reason he had to lowball the GTI was that I had "altered the suspension" and it couldn't be sold that way. (it was lowered with H&R coilovers) He didn't like it when I asked him why the '95 LWB I was shopping didn't have air springs and why that wasn't considered "altered". Overall they have a nice shop but I think you can still find good 1st or 2nd owner Rovers pretty easily. |
   
Donald Box (Roverheadtx)
New Member Username: Roverheadtx
Post Number: 9 Registered: 08-2003
| Posted on Saturday, August 09, 2003 - 12:27 pm: |
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kinda made me think of an AMC Eagle on roids |
   
eric johnson (Eric2)
Member Username: Eric2
Post Number: 88 Registered: 05-2003
| Posted on Sunday, August 10, 2003 - 10:28 am: |
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Well, at least the engine is decent. |
   
Jeff (Junkycosmos)
New Member Username: Junkycosmos
Post Number: 4 Registered: 07-2003
| Posted on Sunday, August 10, 2003 - 09:04 pm: |
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I have seen these in person and they are complete p38 rip offs. The deprecation on them is even worse than the actual 4.0 Rovers (as if that was even possible). The powertain is all american so umm watchout. They can be spoted on ebay once in a while. |
   
you wish (Coolerthanyou)
New Member Username: Coolerthanyou
Post Number: 1 Registered: 08-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, August 12, 2003 - 06:49 pm: |
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the original laforza was designed by thomas tjaarda who also helped pen the pantera (hardly a "p38 ripoff"), and is built by pininfarina. the truck sits on a military spec chassis, and is reported to be the only consumer vehicle that has ever passed the US government's barrier crash test. the primary market for the laforza was for light military duty, police, and other public service work, with most being supplied in their native italy with an alfa romeo 6. in the states they are shipped over minus the drive train and then repowered with a ford 5.0/AOD, and fitted with the walnut and leather trim to appeal as an americanized "luxury SUV". essentially it is the italian equivalent to defender. going to bash the LM002, next? only in america can we find such arrogant stupidity. warn me when you guys travel so I can avoid being seen in the same country for a little while.
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Blue (Blue)
Dweb Lounge Member Username: Blue
Post Number: 304 Registered: 04-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, August 12, 2003 - 06:55 pm: |
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justify it however you want, it's fucking ugly |
   
you wish (Coolerthanyou)
New Member Username: Coolerthanyou
Post Number: 2 Registered: 08-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, August 12, 2003 - 07:26 pm: |
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heard you the first time, Shirley. have a seat, relax, and tell us how you really feel - <smooch> >it's fucking ugly so are hummers - what's your point? I thought maybe a few facts amongs the bullshit would help out. as usual on here, guess i was wrong.
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Peter Matusov (Pmatusov)
Senior Member Username: Pmatusov
Post Number: 982 Registered: 09-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, August 12, 2003 - 07:26 pm: |
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i heard they are _built_ in Escondido, California. Coolerthanyou, LM002 is a great vehicle, but it is fucking ugly, too. Even worse than Laforza. Not everything made by Pininfarina is necessarily the greatest work of art. |
   
Peter Matusov (Pmatusov)
Senior Member Username: Pmatusov
Post Number: 983 Registered: 09-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, August 12, 2003 - 07:30 pm: |
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Check this site - http://www.laforza.com/specs.html So it's a Ford Explorer in Pininfarina-designed skin (which is uglier than Explorer's), and random scattered instruments and stereo that looks as at home as in a 1947 Willys pickup. Guess that's where the info about 35mph barrier crash came from, too. |
   
you wish (Coolerthanyou)
New Member Username: Coolerthanyou
Post Number: 3 Registered: 08-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, August 12, 2003 - 07:34 pm: |
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could be there mostly assembled there? who knows - i imagine whatever shell company they erected over here to import them had less expensive labor rates than pininfarina. i kind of like both I suppose - I always thought with the ford drive train, an older laforza would make a fairly good platform for a trail rig, and would be easy to keep running. don't get me started on art - how is it a rangie is featured in the museum of modern art again? you guys have become sensitive since i've been away ;) edit: the crash barrier stuff is regurgitated in a lot of different literature on laforza. there isn't too much out there.
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Peter Matusov (Pmatusov)
Senior Member Username: Pmatusov
Post Number: 984 Registered: 09-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, August 12, 2003 - 07:42 pm: |
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have you checked the website? it has everything but the skin from an Explorer. and it is assembled in California. What exactly makes it an italian work of art? and what makes it a good trail rig? Approach angle that's worse than departure angle? |
   
Nicholas (Landrovernick)
New Member Username: Landrovernick
Post Number: 5 Registered: 05-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, August 12, 2003 - 09:13 pm: |
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you know whats funny about laforza. they just cant decide what kind of vehicle they want to bite off of. it resembles a range rover sort of it has gm four wheel drive selectors and gm motor. nasty dash design with as stated previously "pep boys wheel covers" i did an oil change on one about two months ago that was sporting the same nasty ugly wheels but had old school ford parts. the motor looked like it came out of an old 89 f-150 it had horrible looking ifs and was just as fugly as this one. |