| Author | Message | ||
     Daniel Covaciu (Danielcovaciu) Member Username: Danielcovaciu Post Number: 188 Registered: 10-2002 |
I would buy this but I'm a little short on cash. You think this guy would take my 98 DI for a straight across trade?  Wishfull thinking. Dan http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2415422044&categor y=31849 | ||
| Chris Marcel (Gumarcel) Senior Member Username: Gumarcel Post Number: 407 Registered: 11-2002 |
Is that the one made for Jimmy Buffet??? | ||
| Daniel Covaciu (Danielcovaciu) Member Username: Danielcovaciu Post Number: 189 Registered: 10-2002 |
Hey, look at that interior. I didnt know D110's came with leather like that. The only blasphemy I see on this truck is that stupid intake and the running boards. I guess whoever buys it can afford another $300 for a proper snorkel. Someone explain to me why I cant buy a new truck just like that for the same price or cheaper than a disco. | ||
| Daniel Covaciu (Danielcovaciu) Member Username: Danielcovaciu Post Number: 190 Registered: 10-2002 |
No Chris, that's the one made for Dan Covaciu. I changed my mind, I want it back. Dan | ||
| Chris Marcel (Gumarcel) Senior Member Username: Gumarcel Post Number: 408 Registered: 11-2002 |
As my father says: "Wish in one hand, shit in the other and see which one fills first" | ||
| _JC_ (_jc_) New Member Username: _jc_ Post Number: 11 Registered: 03-2003 |
HOOOOOOLD UP! So lemme get this straight. You build a vehicle from parts, that is nearly identical to a vehicle that was in production and you can get an assigned VIN, title and register the sucker as a Street legal Vehicle in some states? Ok, who knows some more about this process. I am more than willing to build my own Defender. | ||
| Daniel Covaciu (Danielcovaciu) Member Username: Danielcovaciu Post Number: 191 Registered: 10-2002 |
JC, register it the same you you would a brand new kit car. Use rover parts but put it together yourself from the ground up. Should be emmisions exempt. Look at all the cobra replica's we have running around. Just do a defender replica. However, I cant imagine it would be very cheap to re-create something like this. Make me one to if you do. | ||
| _JC_ (_jc_) New Member Username: _jc_ Post Number: 14 Registered: 03-2003 |
You wouldnt happen to have any links regarding the titling process of something like this? I wouldn't build anything like that, anything I build is going to be a hardcore trail truck. If I can find a totally legal route to do something like this, I'll sell my Disco to fund the project. | ||
| Daniel Covaciu (Danielcovaciu) Member Username: Danielcovaciu Post Number: 192 Registered: 10-2002 |
JC, I would give you the link to the Oregon DMV but titling laws should be diffrent in every state. Find out how you register a kit car in your state and what is considered a kit car. Rover body parts are expensive. The list price on a new DI hood is almost $1000. How much would a new D110 body cost? You may have to sell more than the disco. | ||
| Aaron Richardet (Draaronr) Member Username: Draaronr Post Number: 117 Registered: 09-2002 |
Go to D-90 site. Look up Bryan Tate he just did the complete process last year. He has a sweet yellow 110 with the 300tdi. | ||
| Brad W. Boyd (Bwboyd87) New Member Username: Bwboyd87 Post Number: 19 Registered: 04-2003 |
George Laird at Rovers Down South carries alot of body parts, engines, and everything one would need to build your own Defender...I figured it out to be over $30k to do so using both new and used parts. It's do-able though! http://www.roversdownsouth.com/ Good Luck, Brad '00 DII Elmo | ||
| R. B. Bailey (Rover50987) Senior Member Username: Rover50987 Post Number: 563 Registered: 07-2002 |
If I built something like that... it would end up falling apart. But I wish I could. And yes, it is ridiculous that you can build a car and get it legalized and all, but you cannot buy that same car all ready put together for the simple fact that it came from out of the US. | ||
| _JC_ (_jc_) New Member Username: _jc_ Post Number: 15 Registered: 03-2003 |
Thanks for the info. I'll be making some calls to the state DOT and DMV this week. Also got some forms downloaded. I'll also call my insurance later as well. Seeing this has gotten me excited. | ||
| Leslie N. Bright (Leslie) Senior Member Username: Leslie Post Number: 2197 Registered: 02-2002 |
Hoo boy...... Okay, let's walk through some things. For a starting point, read http://www.eastcoastrover.com/imports.html to have a basis to build on. Note what it says about "kit cars". A company sells you a "kit", which has a VIN of some sort, and incorporates the DOT certification with it. To build a vehicle out of purchased parts is not a kit. Also note what it says about "specially constructed vehicles". That is closer to building a one-off out of parts, unlike a production vehicle. Again, though, it's not legal in this case. And, if you took a vehicle in and have it titled: even if it has a legal title, that doesn't mean that it is DOT-legal. So, ECR is correct when they say that you can't build one and register it as either a kit or a SCV, even if you have a title, and it be legal. Now with that said, let me point out a few things that they didn't say.... First, notice that the states that they talked to includes New York and California: we all KNOW that those are gonna be the states that want to regulate things to the point that they micromanage how many times you can change a baby's diaper a day, so, it shouldn't be a surprise that they said "it ain't legal". I checked both Tennessee and Virginia, and there is an additional category called "reconstructed vehicle". This is where you rebuild a vehicle, replacing "substantial" parts, such as a chassis, or modify it to be different that it originally was, ie, turn a D90 into a D110, or also, to such extent that the original VIN is no longer present or applicable. I haven't checked other states, but my understanding is that Oregon, as Daniel pointed out, is similar, too, in that it is fairly easy to do. In such a case, where you have built it, then take it to the DMV and they inspect a vehicle (as you do with a home-built trailer to get a VIN for it), that conveys DOT acceptance onto it as it is given a VIN; then, after that point, you get it titled as a "reconstructed vehicle". At that point, you are legal. Hooray! You could then sell it, and the title would transfer, etc., and all should be well. Thing is, places that have emmisions testing may have no clue how to apply what standard to it, but that's another barrel of fish.... BUT!!! (Always another but, eh?) There's still a liability-issue. Let's say, you're cruising down the highway, someone crosses lanes and hits you, hard, big wreck, and a passenger in the other vehicle gets killed. Even though it wasn't your fault, when things come out that you built your vehicle, that it didn't come off of an assembly-line, then insurance "may" not cover it, lawsuits may ensare you, etc. etc. etc..... If you never are involved in a wreck, then there would never be an issue with such, but, no one plans a wreck yet they happen all the time. Just wanting to precent all sides to the argument for y'all to mull it over beforehand, so that you can make an educated decision on what course you may choose to take. FWIW..... -L | ||
| _JC_ (_jc_) New Member Username: _jc_ Post Number: 16 Registered: 03-2003 |
Dang, thanks for info Leslie, this stuff is a confusing mess if there ever was one. I understand the "Specially constructed vehicle" classification, but to get an assigned VIN, it must get DOT approval, I assume from the inspection process, otherwise they would not assign the VIN. Also for what I am wanting to do, it will have a Defender feel and shape to it, but it will not be a production vehicle copy, so I think the "specially constructed" could apply. It would have the Defender front clip all the way back to the front doors (SIII), but that would be it. The "reconstructed vehicle" also makes sense, but I would need a donor vehicle. I wonder if a Series IIa would suffice for this? | ||
| Glenn Guinto (Glenn) Senior Member Username: Glenn Post Number: 608 Registered: 02-2002 |
check out www.travelswithrover.com. Marty started out with a D90 and transformed it to a D110 in a couple of weeks from what I understand. Seen the finished product last year and it's very cool! Basically, acquire a 110 frame, a 110 rear tub, doors and trim, and swap everything that are useable from the 90 to the new 110 frame. Obviously the rear drive shaft will be shorter so you need to get that too, and various other bits and pieces that I'm sure am missing. I'm guessing, if you already have a D90, budget about 10-15K and you will have a nice 110. Glenn | ||
| Leslie N. Bright (Leslie) Senior Member Username: Leslie Post Number: 2202 Registered: 02-2002 |
JC, Okay, here's a question: do you want it to look like a Defender? For example, start with a SIII.... if you add in the front grill and swap the bonnet (hood), your SIII will look a LOT like a Defender. For that, you don't have to do anything special, it's just a SIII that looks like a Defender. Take it a step further. Swap the outer panels of the wings so you can have the right wheel-arch shape, swap windshields to lose the 2-piece look, even do an engine swap to a V8, and you're still just a SIII. Swap the chassis to a coil-sprung chassis for a Series, and you're STILL a SIII. Heck, you could take a Rangie chassis, put the Series body on it, and probably get away with registering it as a Series still.... It's really obvious if a Rangie's VIN was used to build a Defender, but, if you start with a SIII, you can "claim" originality. Just say it's been modernized with available parts. -L | ||
| _JC_ (_jc_) New Member Username: _jc_ Post Number: 17 Registered: 03-2003 |
I imagine I could probably even swap in a whole Defender bulkhead,it's essentially the same, just a different Dash. I'd only go that route so I could get all the factory wiring intact, simply for the sake of time and ease, as for the floor pan and seat box, they're nearly identical from what I'm told. | ||
| Leslie N. Bright (Leslie) Senior Member Username: Leslie Post Number: 2204 Registered: 02-2002 |
SIII and a Defender bulkhead do have a few differences. For one, the hinges for the windscreen mount differently. The transmission tunnel is a bit different: you would need to fabricate some adaption there; once covered, it would not be noticed. The piece under the lower dash is different. Wiring, it's not that big of a deal, just get a new wiring harness and go to work.... you'll know the truck better afterwards... -L | ||
| Paul Schuetz (Schuetz) Member Username: Schuetz Post Number: 75 Registered: 04-2002 |
http://www.landroversforsale.com/ It's the first listing, and the asking price is less than the bid price on ebay. Paul | ||
| Peter Sharratt (Gummikuh) Member Username: Gummikuh Post Number: 125 Registered: 02-2003 |
Hi The rear seats in that D110 look a bit unsafe IMO. The back rest is held in place by a seat belt harness. I wonder how difficult doing this seat mod was? The fronts look ok, but the backs look half finished, especially around the bodywork, I would have carpet covering that bit. I will have to take another look at a P38 RR and compare them, looks better than standard. All the best Pete s | ||
| Ron L (Ronl) Member Username: Ronl Post Number: 92 Registered: 11-2002 |
76K? WTF? I bet it shows up again with "the last bidder never came through" | ||
| David Marchand (Dmarchand) Member Username: Dmarchand Post Number: 156 Registered: 09-2002 |
Wow. 76K. That's a lot of scratch. |
